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    Good post, Chester and not just because it is line with my thinking... but, of course, I am on the right side of history, morality, and spirituality...(I'm channelling the forum now)
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    Quote Originally posted by Chester View Post
    Within the context of the recent turmoil that now spans the globe, I see two very critical components that I believe must be addressed. Interestingly (and not surprisingly) is the even greater polarization of the planet, best exemplified as to how it has manifested in the US.

    The first component is the argument placing import on the individual, an individual's marriage to personal responsibility and expressing such in a way that is beneficial for all as well as the individual - experienced as the content of one's character (noting I do not claim to have achieved my own standards in this regard).

    The other component is the need for recognition of the serious, multi-generational collective trauma that chattel slavery (as just one form of slavery) has impacted upon a group who are identified by the color of their skin (ridiculous but nevertheless, a fact - ridiculous in that some can only see "color" and not the individual and their history). The importance in recognizing this is only the first step in a humanity wide goal of healing, because if the trauma(s) are not dealt with then not only will black America and blacks all over the world remain in the grips of the overall trauma and the specific traumas within that overall trauma, but those who do not see themselves under the tent of "black" are also held within the firm grips of auxiliary traumas, generational, early life and adult generated carve outs of the ego states which give rise to conscious entities that lie within each one's personality "in wait" for a moment to break through where the results simply kick the can further down the road.

    So, in a sense, it still boils down to each individual doing their own hard work. But without a full public recognition of the collective trauma which is clearly centered within the black community, the rate of change in achieving the goal of relief will never be swift enough to prevent new trauma producing fallout and thus, perpetuation of the problem.

    This is the challenge of the centuries IMO and upon this Earth there is no greater challenge... many equally powerful, but none greater.
    Very insightful ...

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    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVQ8byG2mY8


    Scientific Evidence Indicates COVID-19 Was Almost Certainly Made in a Laboratory


    The world has gone mad. Completely batshit crazy.

    All over a flu virus called SARS-CoV-2 a.k.a. 2019-nCoV – but better known as COVID-19.

    "The new coronavirus is real," acknowledges Washington Times’ Cheryl Chumley. But, she adds, "COVID-19 will go down as one of the political world’s biggest, most shamefully overblown, overhyped, overly and irrationally inflated and outright deceptively flawed responses to a health matter in American history, one that was carried largely on the lips of medical professionals who have no business running a national economy or government.

    The facts are this: COVID-19 is a real disease that sickens some, proves fatal to others, mostly the elderly — and does nothing to the vast majority.

    That’s it."

    She's right, you know.

    This is not the Black Plague, folks. The current "best estimate" from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for the fatality rate among Americans with COVID-19 symptoms is 0.4 percent.

    Not even one-half of one percent.

    Keep in mind the CDC itself has been helping to inflate the official death toll by issuing doctors with guidelines making it as easy as possible to prescribe COVID-19 as the cause of death, even when it probably wasn’t.

    I’ll discuss the wildly exaggerated death toll of COVID-19 in my next article. Today, I’m going to explain why the official explanation of how COVID-19 came about is an untenable farce. I’m going to dismantle the absurd “wet market” myth, and present you with the scientific and circumstantial evidence showing:

    COVID-19 almost certainly came out of a laboratory;
    COVID-19 bears all the hallmarks of a bioengineered chimera (hybrid) virus.

    I’m also going to unmask a number of key players in the COVID-19 story, and the so-called ‘fact-checkers’ they are funding to discourage and dismiss critical analysis of the official story. There is a sustained campaign to reinforce the official narrative, and to dismiss perfectly sensible and plausible alternate explanations as baseless “conspiracy theories.”

    No, I’m not going to bang on about 5G and, yes, I’ll be mentioning Bill Gates – among many others.

    Brew yourself a long black or a deep pot of tea, because this will be quite a ride.

    Wuhan, Patient Zero, and the “Wet Market” Wank

    COVID-19, also widely known as “the coronavirus” (even though there are actually seven coronaviruses that can infect humans, and many more that can infect animals), allegedly kicked off in Wuhan, China after the infamous “Patient Zero” feasted on a bat/pangolin/snake or some other as yet-to-be-confirmed species purchased from a Huanan “wet market.” That’s right - the so-called experts who perpetuate this unlikely tale can’t quite make up their mind just what he ate when contracting the virus, which begs the question – didn’t anyone bother to simply ask him?

    This is where things get downright ridiculous, because … no-one knows who Patient Zero is!

    On 27 Feb 2020, the South China Morning Post wrote:

    “The first known Covid-19 patient, a male who showed symptoms on December 8, had been discharged but said he was not at the Huanan market, the Wuhan government said in a Weibo post on Wednesday.”

    So now we were being told the first known COVID-19 patient had not been to the wet market, let alone feasted on such delicacies as garlic bat soup or sautéed snake’s guts.

    “We don’t know who the very first patient zero was, presumably in Wuhan, and that leaves a lot of unanswered questions about how the outbreak started and how it initially spread,” the Post was told by Sarah Borwein, who works in the infectious diseases field at Hong Kong’s Central Health Medical Practice [bold emphasis added].

    All this, of course, contradicted the official “wet market” explanation that had already been eagerly broadcast around the world, which may be why, on 13 March 2020, the South China Morning Post offered up an alternative scenario, courtesy of the Chinese Government:

    "[G]overnment data seen by the Post" now suggested a 55-year-old man from the province of Hubei, China "could have been" the first person to have contracted Covid-19 on November 17.

    Alright then – let’s contact him and find out what he really purchased for dinner that fateful day he allegedly went to the Huanan market. If he sadly passed away, then let’s at least pull up his records and see what he told his doctors.

    Well, guess what? We can’t do that because, the Post reports, the elusive “‘patient zero’ has yet to be confirmed.”

    What the … ?

    "Scientists are now keen to identify the so-called patient zero, which could help them to trace the source of the coronavirus, which," the Post adds, "is generally thought to have jumped to humans from a wild animal, possibly a bat."[Bold emphasis added]

    “Generally thought”!? On what grounds? And by whom, exactly? A bunch of propagandists who can’t even tell us who the ephemeral “Patient Zero” was?

    Incredible.

    “It is possible,” adds the Post article, “that there were reported cases dating back even earlier than those seen by the Post.”

    What an incoherent load of malarkey.

    The bottom line is that officials can’t even tell us who the mystery “Patient Zero” is, and there is nothing even resembling credible evidence to support the widely published and highly fanciful claim that COVID-19 opportunistically “jumped” onto humans via his consumption of an exotic species purchased at the Huanan market. The entire “wet market” explanation, quite frankly, reeks of bullshit - and in the continuing absence of evidence, that is exactly the status prudent observers should continue to award it.

    The highly improbable and utterly unfounded “wet market” story bears all the hallmarks of a distraction – a diversionary tale concocted to draw the world’s attention away from the true origins of this novel virus.

    A More Plausible Explanation: This Novel Coronavirus Emerged From a Lab Creating Novel Coronaviruses

    Wuhan just happens to be the home of a Biosafety Level 4 laboratory that, for several years prior to the COVID-19 outbreak, was experimenting with bat coronaviruses. BSL-4 is the highest biological safety rating, and awarded to laboratories that engage in such hairy endeavours as biological weaponry. These labs often play with viruses that are extremely virulent and for which no known treatment is available should an outbreak occur. The Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences lab received its BSL-4 accreditation in 2017, but has been experimenting with bat coronaviruses since at least 2014.

    As we’ll discuss shortly, American taxpayers have unwittingly helped finance this research.

    The Washington Post recently reported that in early 2018, US Embassy officials visited the Wuhan lab several times and “sent two official warnings back to Washington about inadequate safety at the lab, which was conducting risky studies on coronaviruses from bats.”

    The first cable also warned the lab’s work on bat coronaviruses and their potential human transmission represented a risk of a new SARS-like pandemic.

    Which is exactly what happened in late 2019.

    A novel bat-like coronavirus escaping – by accident or design - from a Wuhan laboratory experimenting with bat coronaviruses is an infinitely more plausible explanation than some completely unverified cock’n’bull story about “zoonotic transfer” after an unknown person ate an unknown exotic species at a Wuhan wet market.

    Ultimately, we don’t yet know exactly how or where the novel coronavirus strain known as COVID-19 originated – a problem not helped by the fact Chinese whistle-blowers who could help shed light on this issue have been dying, disappearing, getting arrested, strong-armed into silence or censored by Chinese authorities.

    Chinese authorities have even threatened COVID-19 survivors and grieving relatives of those who died. Lawyers have been warned not to file suit against the government. Any lawsuit related to COVID-19 would naturally entail a motion for discovery, which might just turn up some inconvenient facts. The Chinese government and its armed goons have made it clear they’re not about to let that happen.

    The Chinese government is by no means the only entity obfuscating the truth about COVID-19. All those racist idiots who’ve been hurling abuse at innocent Asian folks should know there are plenty of white people with lots of explaining to do when it comes to COVID-19.

    Dr Anthony Fauci: Just Whose Side is He Really On?

    Dr Anthony S. Fauci is one of the lead members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force. You’ve probably seen on him on the news, cautioning against easing lockdown restrictions and assuring us a vaccine will eventually arrive to save the world from the apocalyptic catastrophe this not-especially-dangerous strain of flu will cause.

    Fauci’s main gig is director of the US National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), a post he has held since 1984. The NIAID is one of the numerous sub-agencies that comprise the National Institutes of Health (NIH), an agency of the US Department of Health and Human Services.

    In addition to his NIAID and Task Force roles, Fauci has worked with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, a name that keeps popping up again and again as one delves into this murky COVID-19 issue. In January 2010, the Gates Foundation called for the next ten years to be the "Decade of Vaccines." Later that year, on 2 December 2010, it announced a collaboration with Fauci's NIAID, the World Health Organization (WHO) and UNICEF to make this dream a reality by establishing The Global Vaccine Action Plan. Fauci was appointed to the Leadership Council of this vaccine group, along with WHO, UNICEF and Gates Foundation figures.

    This new enterprise, declared the Gates Foundation press release, "will enable greater coordination across all stakeholder groups – national governments, multilateral organizations, civil society, the private sector and philanthropic organizations -- and will identify critical policy, resource, and other gaps that must be addressed to realize the life-saving potential of vaccines."

    This was, in effect, a business plan for vaccines, one that would be facilitated by governments, supra-national organizations like the UN and WHO, the private sector (notably, the pharmaceutical industry) and all those wonderful ‘philanthropic organizations’ that, in reality, act as front groups for paternalistic billionaires with globalist agendas.

    Recently, Fauci told an interviewer that, while face masks are not 100% effective, people should wear them anyway as a “symbol” of respect for one another. I’ve got a better idea: If Fauci really wants to show respect for his fellow Americans, he should stop channelling their tax dollars to Chinese laboratories that deliberately create viruses with pandemic potential.

    While Americans Struggle to Afford Health Care, Fauci and the NIH Send Millions to China

    With the NIAID's backing, the NIH has spent millions of taxpayer dollars funding research on bat coronaviruses. In 2014, the NIAID/NIH channelled $3.7 million into a 5-year project to this end. Online NIH information for the project shows the money was awarded to researchers from – wait for it - the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. The money was paid to the researchers via an intermediary outfit known as Ecohealth Alliance, Inc., but the NIH knew full well where the money was going. Ecohealth Alliance is a New York-based ‘non-profit’ run by Peter Daszak, a British zoologist and virologist.

    Upon expiry of the project last year, the NIAID/NIH awarded another $3.7 million for a 6-year project researching bat coronaviruses.

    Several project numbers have been assigned by the NIH to the research covered by these grants. At this page, you’ll find the details for Project 2R01AI110964-06 which was awarded a $292,161 grant on 24 July 2019.

    Scroll down the page, and you'll see a subheading titled "NIH Spending Category." Among those categories is "Biodefense." In other words, Fauci's NIAID and NIH were giving money to a laboratory owned by America's primary military and economic adversary, so that it could develop viruses with possible bio-weaponry applications.

    Just brilliant.

    If you or I did that, we’d be promptly thrown in jail for treason. But Fauci instead gets to enjoy a lavish salary and a position on the White House’s Task Force that is supposed to be saving the US from COVID-19.

    Not surprisingly, news of this breathtaking arrangement was greeted with much alarm by those critical of the official “wet market” COVID-19 tale. Despite its insistence the jaw-dropping Wuhan arrangement was as innocent as a newborn baby, the NIH cancelled the project on 24 April 2020.

    The Oligarchy Goes Into Damage Control

    In response to the embarrassing revelations, self-appointed ‘fact-checking’ organization PolitiFact took it upon itself to ‘investigate’ the situation. The organization declared the allegations to be “False”, proclaiming "Obama administration did not provide $3.8 million to Wuhan virology lab" and "Rudy Giuliani wrong about US policy, grant amount to Wuhan virus lab."

    Regrettably, PolitiFact’s conclusion was uncritically repeated by other media outlets, such as USA Today.

    To support its dubious claims, PolitiFact simply quoted EcoHealth’s spokesman, Robert Kessler, who claimed the Wuhan lab received just under $600,000.

    Garbage.

    To show what a load of nonsense Kessler’s claim is, one simply needs to pull up the pages for the NIH project numbers, and see where the money went. Project Number 1R01AI110964-01, awarded 27 May 2014, received a grant of $666,442. Of this, $516,857 was "Direct Costs" while $149,585 was for "Indirect Costs." I'm guessing the latter figure was largely or wholly absorbed by the 'non-profit' EcoHealth, which acted as intermediary.

    When you click on the “Results” tab for this project, you can see the fruits of this grant - a list of studies published by the Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers.

    Project Number 5R01AI110964-02 endowed EcoHealth with a grant of $630,445 on 10 June 2015. Again, the results page is dominated by studies published by the Wuhan researchers.

    The same thing happens when you examine the page for Project Number 5R01AI110964-04 which shows that, on 26 May 2017, EcoHealth received a $597,112 grant courtesy of the NIAID. Clicking on the results page again returns a list replete with studies by the Wuhan researchers.

    Project Number 2R01AI110964-06 was awarded a grant of $292,161 on 24 July 2019. As expected, the results page brings up a lengthy list of studies published by the Wuhan researchers.

    This is not a complete list, but the grant tally just from the projects mentioned above is over $2.1 million. Irrespective of whatever clever paper-shuffling EcoHealth may have performed, the fact remains that the money was used to sponsor research conducted at the Wuhan lab.

    So why is PolitiFact trying to obfuscate the financial relationship between NIAID, NIH, EcoHealth and the Wuhan Institute of Virology?

    The Big Money Behind the So-Called ‘Fact-Checkers’

    For insight into that question, it is helpful to look at where this so-called ‘fact-checking’ group gets its money from. PolitiFact is owned by the Poynter Institute, which bills itself as "a nonprofit school for journalists."

    Heaven help us if this lot are training journalists, because Poynter’s funders include the more-vaccines-for-everyone fanatics at Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and the Open Society Foundations, created by billionaire George Soros, whose socialist ideology has never prevented him from seizing a dubious money-making opportunity, even if it means breaking a country's currency and plunging its economy into turmoil. Incredibly, when his Quantum Fund did this to Thailand in 1997, he argued he was doing Thai authorities a favour by sending “a market signal that the baht may be overvalued.”

    How thoughtful of you, George.

    Soros is the quintessential globalist hypocrite, who happily engages in destructive profiteering while maintaining the rest of us should compliantly succumb to a socialist “new world order.”

    In 2016 Soros told an interviewer we “need a new world order that China has to be a part of the process of creating it, and they have to buy in, they have to own it, the same way, as I said to you, the United States owns, the Washington Consensus, the current order…and, and I think this would be a more stable one where you would have co-ordinated policies.” [Bold emphasis added]

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    The Washington Times has been in operation for 36 years. 2015 was the first year it turned a profit. What was its source of funding? If it wasn't making any money chances are it was (and is) government backed propaganda.

    You know ... the "deep state" that everybody so lovingly embraces -- particularly that faction of the deep state that pushes the idea of the deep state the most??

    I would take anything coming out of the Washington Times with a bushel of salt. People suggesting you "don't drink the koolaide" while pushing you off a bridge into a river of their own, are best ignored.
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    Really well laid out Chestor, great stuff.

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    Just to add, The 'Paper' (which was originally The Washington Star) was bought with funding basically from Korea, to gain a platform of influence and prestige in the D.C. political arena back in the Reagan years ...

    If you lived in Washington (as i did) this was well known common local knowledge ... In which 'The Reverend Moon' was a powerful lobbying fiqure back then ...


    "The Washington Times was founded on May 17, 1982, by Unification movement leader Sun Myung Moon and owned until 2010 by News World Communications, an international media conglomerate founded by Moon. It is currently owned by Operations Holdings, which is owned by the Unification movement ... More here

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    Right. Reverend Moon. I moved to the DC area at the end of the eighties and briefly had a subscription to that paper. My housemates, one of whom worked for a republican senator and one of whom worked for a democratic senator, both warned me that the paper was biased. I was just looking for an alternative to the Post. I also listened to NPR for years as an alternative to the mainstream.

    Turns out NPR had by far the most thorough coverage of issues, covering them from many sides and many angles. And NPR never yelled at me, unlike talk radio.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Turns out NPR had by far the most thorough coverage of issues, covering them from many sides and many angles. And NPR never yelled at me, unlike talk radio.
    Thankfully NPR has been exposed for what they are.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chester View Post
    Thankfully NPR has been exposed for what they are.
    For those with eyes to see.
    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" -- Voltaire

    "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."-- Eleanor Roosevelt

    "Misery loves company. Wisdom has to look for it." -- Anonymous

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    This isn't the tent. In this thread, all comments are welcome... as long as the PTB and fellow PTBs allow our ability to comment freely.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chester View Post
    This isn't the tent. In this thread, all comments are welcome... as long as the PTB and fellow PTBs allow our ability to comment freely.
    And lets not forget those boot stomping fascist behind the veil ...

    That continue to crush it ...


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    Who might you be referring to, Gio?

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    Oh really its about time that some of you actually grow up my kids act more sane than you.TPTB and PTB complete and utter bollocks.




    Anyone got a problem with that then you can contact me directly.Some of you are quite rude and your ego's are very unpleasant


    I hope i have made myself clear
    No one person can ever change the truth, but the truth, once learned, can and will change the person

    You must be the change you wish to see in the world when you are through changing, you are through


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    Take it easy Wind, your reading too much into it ..
    It's a real reference to real world Nazism.

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    Quote Originally posted by giovonni View Post
    And lets not forget those boot stomping fascist behind the veil ...

    That continue to crush it ...

    When I read this post, I was not interpreting the post to imply what I had intentionally implied. I took it as what Gio explained here.

    Quote Originally posted by The One View Post
    Oh really its about time that some of you actually grow up my kids act more sane than you.TPTB and PTB complete and utter bollocks.




    Anyone got a problem with that then you can contact me directly.Some of you are quite rude and your ego's are very unpleasant


    I hope i have made myself clear
    I am the one responsible and I interpreted Malc's post to be primarily aimed at me based on a few of my most recent posts where I complained about the moderation.

    This post is meant to take any heat off Gio as I believe it is misdirected.
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