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    I know this is preaching to the choir, but just in case anyone wondered... The video is only a few minutes, by the way.


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    From NIH:

    As a person clears and recovers from a typical respiratory infection, such as the flu, the lung repairs the damage. But in severe COVID-19, both studies suggest this isn’t always possible. Not only does SARS-CoV-2 destroy cells within air sacs, called alveoli, that are essential for the exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide, but the unchecked inflammation apparently also impairs remaining cells from repairing the damage. In fact, the lungs’ regenerative cells are suspended in a kind of reparative limbo, unable to complete the last steps needed to replace healthy alveolar tissue.

    In both studies, the lung tissue also contained an unusually large number of fibroblast cells. Izar’s team went a step further to show increased numbers of a specific type of pathological fibroblast, which likely drives the rapid lung scarring (pulmonary fibrosis) seen in severe COVID-19. The findings point to specific fibroblast proteins that may serve as drug targets to block deleterious effects.
    A comment (not me):

    A musical mentor of mine enjoyed Thanksgiving with all of the trimmings, seemingly fine.

    60 hours later he was dead.

    He barely even coughed.

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    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G433fa01oMU


    Above is a Lex Fridman video with an evolutionary micro biologist. It's worth watching.

    Below is a comprehensive article on the history of Mrna vaccines, from Nature mag. Nearly all of the scare stories about the vaccine originate with Robert Monroe. This article, in Nature, will provide an explanation as to why he is damning it, imo. He was cut out of the profit stream well before it was commercialized.

    The reasons are murky and he may have every right to be bitter. But, that doesn't reduce his burden of guilt for what looks like a revenge play against those who may or may not have done a backroom deal. It doesn't change the nature of the vaccine or its success.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

    Happy New Year. Can't wait til 2023!!
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    I saw this channel being recommended, the info seems to be good.

    Omicron infection also produced immunity against Delta. This means someone who has been infected with delta is largely immune to subsequent delta infection. Therefore delta will soon have no one to infect, therefore will go away.

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYLbJ0H8zdc

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    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G433fa01oMU


    Above is a Lex Fridman video with an evolutionary micro biologist. It's worth watching.

    Below is a comprehensive article on the history of Mrna vaccines, from Nature mag. Nearly all of the scare stories about the vaccine originate with Robert Monroe. This article, in Nature, will provide an explanation as to why he is damning it, imo. He was cut out of the profit stream well before it was commercialized.

    The reasons are murky and he may have every right to be bitter. But, that doesn't reduce his burden of guilt for what looks like a revenge play against those who may or may not have done a backroom deal. It doesn't change the nature of the vaccine or its success.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

    Happy New Year. Can't wait til 2023!!
    Happy New Year.

    I think you mean Dr Robert Malone.

    I'm seeing attempts by MM to discredit him as a researcher, but at least that nature article is somewhat balanced.

    He really was the co-inventor of mRNA technology, no doubt about it and he's very critical of its use for the purposes of vaccination. mRNA gene therapies have massive potential in treating cancer and curing aids, but as vaccinations go, there are far better and safer methods out there, such as protein-based or inactivated virus vaccines. When one of the inventors of a technology tells us it isn't safe for its intended use, I think we should listen. MM efforts to discredit him and his work have fallen flat as he is a credentialed and well-regarded research scientist.

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    I saw this channel being recommended, the info seems to be good.




    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYLbJ0H8zdc
    He's another doctor who is critical of the current emphasis on vaccinating everyone at all costs, along with Dr Chris Martenson. As with Robert Malone, there is a serious effort from MM (in other word, big pharma), to discredit them.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    there is a serious effort from MM (in other word, big pharma), to discredit them.
    Why am I not surprised. It's a big business.

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    "Science isn't a set of facts, it's a way of thinking of the world".


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XMkq8ik1sU

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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    I understand the sentiment, but the parallel is completely contrived. It is in the nature of a non-sequitur.

    e.g.:
    A non sequitur is a conclusion or reply that doesn't follow logically from the previous statement. You've probably heard an example of a non sequitur before, therefore bunny rabbits are way cuter than chipmunks. Non sequiturs are often used for comedic effect in movies, novels, and TV shows.
    “To seek self-knowledge is to embark on a journey which ... will always be incomplete" - courtesy of Godel's Incompleteness Theorem

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    Quote Originally posted by BeastOfBologna View Post
    I understand the sentiment, but the parallel is completely contrived. It is in the nature of a non-sequitur.

    e.g.:
    A non sequitur is a conclusion or reply that doesn't follow logically from the previous statement. You've probably heard an example of a non sequitur before, therefore bunny rabbits are way cuter than chipmunks. Non sequiturs are often used for comedic effect in movies, novels, and TV shows.
    Yeah, but it's funny, because there is a grain of truth in it.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    Yeah, but it's funny, because there is a grain of truth in it.
    “To seek self-knowledge is to embark on a journey which ... will always be incomplete" - courtesy of Godel's Incompleteness Theorem

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