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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    My brother did not explain himself. He tends to make statements and then walk away.

    My guess is that he was parroting whichever radio talk show host he was listening to. I doubt he even knew that he was paraphrasing the early 20th century industrialist who referred to workers as 'bolts on the warehouse floor'. He said that they are perfectly useful but not worth the time and money to retrieve and re-use so you just 'sweep them away' and get new ones.

    So workers were something, according to him, that you could just use and then 'sweep away' and get new ones. This is what the Irish experienced when they came to America during/after the great starvation.

    My brother merely used a verbal meme which updated 'bolts' to 'pennies'.



    Regarding the gods, I don't personally believe that they take sides. And even if they did, there are certainly way more sides than just a and b. There are myriad sides in America alone, and then there is the rest of the world. There are in fact myriad gods, imo. The Indians of India have known this for a very long time.

    If gods want to manipulate folks to take sides they can easily do so. In fact, that is the game of the leaders of industry and politics. So perhaps the gods are on their side. Most likely, imo, the gods are just manipulating those leaders.

    We the People need to learn to not play along. However, many folks seem to be anxious to play along which is why people become divided and divisive.
    My own view is that gods are primarily forces of nature, personified.

    You are right in that they do not take sides. That applies to humans as well, because we are part of nature. Viruses can be thought of as Gaia's T-cells. Whenever a certain organism oversteps its bounds and becomes destructive, even cancerous, as humans have clearly become, viruses step in, almost automatically, to reduce their numbers and put the ecosystem as a whole back into balance. We have been able to overcome Gaia's defences to a certain extent, through science and medicine, but eventually, she will catch up with us and slap us down hard. Notice, how this virus mostly affects the elderly in big cities, who, from nature's perspective, have already served their biological purpose and live in clusters that are grossly overpopulated and a burden on nature. With humans retreating into their homes, nature is already bouncing back. Yesterday I saw a herd of deer in the botanic gardens in the centre of the city! Dolphins are back in the Venice canals and all kinds of other animals are reclaiming the living space that humans have overrun. I think this pandemic is part of the natural cycle of life and is probably long overdue.

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    That is pretty amazing, Chris...cause for deep thought...

    which reminds me, I'm playing in an online team chess tournament, and I've got a teammate (not anymore, actually) named DeepThough...his native language is Spanish and I think he intended DeepThought...anywho, is a grandmaster level player...
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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    The main reason the Administration has failed epically and, in my opinion, deliberately in terms of testing is because it can then play the denial game, which it has and will continue to do so. That and the blame game.
    Yes, Donald Trump specifically seems adamant that the virus escaped from a Chinese lab, while even his intelligence agencies tell him it's not true. But of course, all Trump wants is to have an excuse for resuming his trade war with China.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Regarding the gods, I don't personally believe that they take sides.
    They don't but they can be recruited (which was said with other words in my post).

    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    And even if they did, there are certainly way more sides than just a and b.
    Yes, there are way more sides, and (non-dualistically) there's only one side. But the context I was referring to is "side a, China" and "side b, the Western World." I should have made that clear.

    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    There are in fact myriad gods, imo. The Indians of India have known this for a very long time.
    Yes, I was referring to the myriad of gods.

    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    If gods want to manipulate folks to take sides they can easily do so. In fact, that is the game of the leaders of industry and politics. So perhaps the gods are on their side. Most likely, imo, the gods are just manipulating those leaders.
    The gods of the lowest realms may find entertainment in manipulation of humans, some suspect such. But I wasn't referring to those as they are far less powerful. The gods I referred to are the "guns for hire."

    It is my opinion that most of the folks playing the game as notorious leaders of industry and politics refrain from dabbling in magick, though a few might. I was referring to the far more "practically powerful" who remain mostly or fully occulted. It is these who, if they understand how magick can be used and desire to use it in such ways, move "the game pieces" (the leaders of industry and politics) who are easily expendable and often lose their temporal power.

    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    We the People need to learn to not play along.
    I strive to stay away from what I might "believe" is best for others [in this case, the rest of the People], but if ever I did, this would be the case... we do, indeed need to.

    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    However, many folks seem to be anxious to play along which is why people become divided and divisive.
    [emphasis, mine]

    I agree 100% - a revelation only recently acquired.

    What do you see as the top 5 or so reasons so many wish to play along?
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    With regards to "that which may assist or hinder" [pointing to "other worldly" conscious agents] us Earth bound humans, I refer to William Shakespeare from Hamlet -

    Angels and ministers of grace . . . defend us.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    There are plenty of people who mourn their deceased loved ones because of this virus.
    Yes... just as there are plenty of people who mourn those who have died from failure to get treatment for other maladies due to infodemically exacerbated inaccessibility or the fear induced by the infodemic that keeps them away from hospitals when they should go due to symptoms of stroke or heart attack.

    Yes... just as the number of suicides (so easily predicted) are now being statistically revealed thanks to the infodemic.

    Yes... job losses, lock downs have been dramatically increased because of the infodemic combined with another critically relevant factor [which I will refrain from pointing out for now] bring the worst out in people resulting in domestic abuse and child abuse... this information is starting to come out though clearly way too late.

    Yes... addictions to life destroying drugs and alcohol is on the rise and is starting to come out though clearly way too late.

    Yes... suicides on the rise and the info is coming out though clearly way too late.

    BUT!!!! It is all worth it. I completely agree. Sometimes you gotta kill thousands (even hundreds of thousands) to "save" billions and so I completely agree. I mean... its all just "meatsuits" anyway being bumped off. And the suffering souls of their loved ones... well, surely this is just another of life's challenges "sent by the Universe" to provide each and every one of us the opportunity to solidify/increase the integrity of our souls, yes?

    As for crony capitalism - the global fascist takeover that we are swiftly marching towards, is, in fact, exactly that with the added bonus of the government(s) and multi-national corporations becoming "one thing" - fascisms dream.

    Ohhh and, trust me, with the vaccines they are imposing (especially the new ones in the pipe) along with 5G, 6G, and futureGs will complete the Great Work by ensuring each and every "We the People" meat suit is permanently separated from their soul. But you won't know it because they are slowly acclimating the uninformed to "neural networked internet run by AI" which will allow each "We the People" to confuse soul for the "new paradigm."

    Enjoy!

    We deserve it.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    My own view is that gods are primarily forces of nature, personified.

    You are right in that they do not take sides. That applies to humans as well, because we are part of nature. Viruses can be thought of as Gaia's T-cells. Whenever a certain organism oversteps its bounds and becomes destructive, even cancerous, as humans have clearly become, viruses step in, almost automatically, to reduce their numbers and put the ecosystem as a whole back into balance. We have been able to overcome Gaia's defences to a certain extent, through science and medicine, but eventually, she will catch up with us and slap us down hard. Notice, how this virus mostly affects the elderly in big cities, who, from nature's perspective, have already served their biological purpose and live in clusters that are grossly overpopulated and a burden on nature. With humans retreating into their homes, nature is already bouncing back. Yesterday I saw a herd of deer in the botanic gardens in the centre of the city! Dolphins are back in the Venice canals and all kinds of other animals are reclaiming the living space that humans have overrun. I think this pandemic is part of the natural cycle of life and is probably long overdue.
    YES!!!

    Some worry that "the cure could be worse than the virus."

    They miss the point - The virus is the cure!

    But understand... I mean that metaphorically though we do see it literally.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Yes, Donald Trump specifically seems adamant that the virus escaped from a Chinese lab, while even his intelligence agencies tell him it's not true. But of course, all Trump wants is to have an excuse for resuming his trade war with China.
    I think you are not getting your information broadly. "Some" within the intelligence agencies "do not" make odds more favorable that it came from the wet markets. "Some" actually make odds quite high it came from one of the two Wuhan labs. Having said that, one or the other may also be agenda driven and so "what they say" and "what they actually think" may not be the same. Because the vast majority of the high profile media is ideologically and financially tied to the former, that is why you think what you wrote.

    BUT!!! There is also the "buried" information that suggests it actually came from the US via "an accident" or "maybe not an accident" - the case made has been well presented and, could be debunked or not by those who know virology and have access to the actual virus strains "pointed to" in some of the information. Here are links to several relevant articles -

    If you only care to look at one of these - IMO, this is the one -

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...against-china/

    ok... and this one too -

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...-three-stages/

    and so here's more -

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02/...venient-virus/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02/...tual-overview/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02/...ainst-mankind/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...ate-in-the-us/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...ted-in-the-us/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...-hard-at-work/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...-s-biowarfare/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...l-coronavirus/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...-against-iran/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/...tack-on-china/

    And then there is the other possibility - that this was an "intentionally created false flag." And there are at least two "groups" that can be pointed to that may have pulled this off - one is more at the level of "US based military/CIA types" (covered by many of the links above) but the other is an expanded group that includes the lovely Bill Gates / Rothschilds / Prince Charles / "Old Euro Cabal" / operatives within and/or contractors of western world intelligence agencies...

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...es-foundation/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...ation-program/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...ate-everybody/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/...he-lock-downs/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/...-entire-world/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/...nths-from-now/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/...y-vaccination/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/...odern-history/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/...investigation/

    and - Here’s Why Bill Gates Wants Indemnity

    I put my money on this last group, Bill Gates, et al. I am on record now.


    On another note: Here's some other helpful articles that have assisted me in treating "the cure."

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02/...virus-madness/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02/...ou-should-too/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...eally-a-virus/

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/...id-19-vaccine/
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    Quote Originally posted by Chester View Post
    Ohhh and, trust me, with the vaccines they are imposing (especially the new ones in the pipe) along with 5G, 6G, and futureGs will complete the Great Work by ensuring each and every "We the People" meat suit is permanently separated from their soul. But you won't know it because they are slowly acclimating the uninformed to "neural networked internet run by AI" which will allow each "We the People" to confuse soul for the "new paradigm."
    Well, only one thing I know for sure is that I won't be part of such a "paradigm". I appreciate technology with it's benefits, but I also know that the connection to the spirit is far more important and if we lose that then there is nothing worth living for. This world will become what we allow it to become, the responsibility lies on each individuals shoulders.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Well, only one thing I know for sure is that I won't be part of such a "paradigm". I appreciate technology with it's benefits, but I also know that the connection to the spirit is far more important and if we lose that then there is nothing worth living for. This world will become what we allow it to become, the responsibility lies on each individuals shoulders.
    I agree 1000% That, to me, is the whole ballgame. I also agree with your point as to whose "responsibility" it is... each individual, bingo!
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    Regarding the lab escape theory, I don't know for sure whether this is valid or not, we may never find direct evidence to prove it, however there is enough circumstantial evidence out there, that any impartial jury would convict China at the very least for acting negligently and trying to cover its tracks. I really think that China's defence is so feeble, it would not stand up in court, especially since it very clearly tried to destroy any evidence that may point to an accidental lab release. I'm also still not wholly convinced that this virus hasn't been tampered with or modified with in some way. Those HIV-like spike proteins got there somehow and I have not yet seen a convincing explanation for how this might have occurred naturally. It just seems to me that genetic manipulation is a far simpler and thus likely theory that satisfies occam's razor.

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    if it came from a laboratory, I think we will find it out...genetics do not lie...global science will never rest until 'carrier 1' is tracked down.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    if it came from a laboratory, I think we will find it out...genetics do not lie...global science will never rest until 'carrier 1' is tracked down.
    Patient ZERO is the one they want to find the most. (that may be what you mean)
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    Well, if you really want to dive deep into it, Chris Martenson does an excellent job of dissecting it dispassionately and in an empirical and logical manner, based on a bombshell Newsweek report. I think this really doesn't look good for the scientists involved, not least Anthony Fauci, who was apparently deeply involved in the funding of gain-of-function research (or in other words, weaponisation) on bat Coronaviruses. This report is extremely damning and I struggle to see how the whole biodefence industry can come out of this intact, if this all checks out and is confirmed by authorities. We are talking hundreds of thousands of deaths already and if this was indeed a result of bioweapons tinkering then heads should quite literally roll.


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    Quote Originally posted by Chester View Post
    Patient ZERO is the one they want to find the most. (that may be what you mean)
    If you insist Patient 0 at the moment I wrote that doesn't exist...On 2nd thought Patient 0 is not the source, it was a bat? Que no?

    On the other hand, I might be suffering from COVID-19 delirium, I had a really f*cked up week...headaches, nausea, dizziness, etc. who knows.

    It's either the virus or I am dying from natural causes.. I sure as hell hope not, if this is the virus I'll take that option.
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