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    Or maybe it's just that Trump is really not the smartest guy around and his administration is totally incompetent.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Or maybe it's just that Trump is really not the smartest guy around and his administration is totally incompetent.
    Naaaahhhhhh! Ya think?
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    I have a more mundane explanation. What we are seeing is the culmination of Trumpism. For three years he has been creating an alternate reality for the trump worlders to live in. A world where he is the master-in-chief. He has systematically dismantled the institutions that sane human beings realize provide stability to a very chaotic world and was cheered as he did it. As Strother Martin said in “Cool Hand Luke”. “If that’s the way you want it,that’s the way you gets it.” Personally I think it’s pathetic.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    I have a more mundane explanation. What we are seeing is the culmination of Trumpism. For three years he has been creating an alternate reality for the trump worlders to live in.
    As Chris Hedges said, Trump has created a "reality" where he and his followers live in a collective psychosis.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Or maybe it's just that Trump is really not the smartest guy around and his administration is totally incompetent.
    That would be my first thought too, but it seems far too convenient.

    Never attribute to incompetence, that which is adequately explained by evil.
    is my version of Hanlon's razor.

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    Our local pharmacy. In hindsight, perhaps not the best choice of names…

    And the shopping mall next to it is similarly poorly named.

    The name of the Coronavirus in Hungarian is Koronavírus, but most people just refer to it as Korona.

    I wonder if business has been affected?


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    People are still flying into the US and not being tested. Not even their temperature. If the US was planning to infect others it wouldn't leave itself open as it has.

    Occam's razor says that this is pure and simple incompetence. Trump fired his pandemic response team last year (I think). Trump doesn't want the stock market to fall the way it has.

    It's simply incompetence. Nothing more complicated than that.

    "Heckuva job, Brownie" seems like the good old days. (Hurricane Katrina ref there)

    Take a look at the political 'yes men' game being played out. People cannot speak the simple truth for fear of being fired.

    It's incompetence, sad to say.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    People are still flying into the US and not being tested. Not even their temperature. If the US was planning to infect others it wouldn't leave itself open as it has.

    Occam's razor says that this is pure and simple incompetence. Trump fired his pandemic response team last year (I think). Trump doesn't want the stock market to fall the way it has.

    It's simply incompetence. Nothing more complicated than that.

    "Heckuva job, Brownie" seems like the good old days. (Hurricane Katrina ref there)

    Take a look at the political 'yes men' game being played out. People cannot speak the simple truth for fear of being fired.

    It's incompetence, sad to say.
    I read an article that yesterday only 8 people were tested in the whole of the United States.

    Another article claimed that 1 percent of Ohio's population is already infected. Officially only 5 are confirmed, yet the Governor of that state claims the real number is roughly 117.000

    I think that 1 percent is a good estimation for the rest of the US. There must already be millions of infected.

    On the other hand, since the hospitals aren't overflowing yet, it may also mean that the US has a particularly mild strain with very low serious complication and death rates. The evidence Indicates that there are several strains and the one in Italy and Iran is particularly deadly.

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    People have been hoarding toilet paper, (gas) masks, medicine, canned food and pasta here. It would be hilarious if it wouldn't seem so stupid. Public events with over 500 people have been cancelled. 155 confirmed cases and more to come, the government is preparing for a full blown epidemic.

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    Even as a bona fide neurotic I’m not prone to panic but this is making me nervous. There may be millions affected and hopefully with a mild strain here in the us
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Even as a bona fide neurotic I’m not prone to panic but this is making me nervous. There may be millions affected and hopefully with a mild strain here in the us
    On the other hand, it might just be the delay between people contracting the disease, showing symptoms and actually needing to be hospitalized. This delay might be several weeks. Expect an Italy-type scenario in several US states in the next couple of weeks.

    Yes, I admit, I am nervous too. Not so much for myself, but for my elderly parents and because I don't welcome the disruption to daily life and even permanent changes that this will undoubtedly bring. I suspect we can wave goodbye to several prominent features of globalization, at least for some years, maybe forever. Things like foreign travel, cruise ships, cheap gadgets from China, global supply chains, etc...

    Big changes are a'coming and we will all have to adjust our behaviour accordingly.

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    I work for a very large company. They just went work from home in the us
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    Full-blown panic has hit my little corner of the world. Even though I'd known what was about to happen since the end of January, most people here have been in total denial and are only now starting to wake up.

    The borders are closed from Sunday evening and since I live in a border town which acts as a bedroom community for Vienna (most people here commute across the border to their jobs in Austria), people are suddenly realising how serious this is, most people won't be able to go to work on monday, there are snaking lines in front of pharmacies and grocery stores. Everyone I speak to describes the mood as "apocalyptic".

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    I guess I’ll reserve my bug-eyed mode until McDonald’s shuts down
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