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    The Family

    I have heard of this entity for some years now. The media has reported occasionally about it.

    For those who have seen signs saying, "Jesus is Lord", but maybe don't understand, this will help.

    Essentially, there is a growing belief system which says that Jesus is all that matters, i.e. no trinity. Jesus is the same thing as God, and power is all that matters.

    The remaining compassionate Christian beliefs are disposed of.

    Jeff Sharlet was in the Family for a while.


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    Thinking

    Thanks for sharing ...

    An important offshoot venue of all this is this yearly event which has been operating in plain sight and with an almost unquestioned legitimacy and intent - since the early 1950's - and has embedded itself (via its lobbyist) within the halls of the U.S. government ...

    The access and influence has almost (rarely) been looked into till now?
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    The Netflix series debuted in August. The Family is "a secret hiding in plain sight". It is now being spoken about internationally, thanks to the series.

    If folks think the religious abuses of the past are history, they may want to think again.


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    At 28 minutes: "This is the world that they had a huge hand in shaping."

    "United States is the only developed nation in the world without powerful organized labor. They did that."

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    At 37min. the National Prayer Breakfast is discussed. It's a week-long lobbying event. Not just a breakfast.

    Eisenhower recognized the line he was crossing re separation of church and state and demanded no press. Nonetheless, he established precedence. Presidents followed.

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    At 48 min. he discusses the lack of actual knowledge of Christian faith and scriptures. And basic knowledge of other religions as well.

    "These are not the Fundamentalists who can quote you chapter and verse. That doesn't matter."

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    What can folks do about this? (57:30)

    "People thought, well, we live in a Democracy." It was something they just had. Now people are realizing that "Democracy is something you gotta get up and bake every day. You gotta make Democracy. And if you don't, you will lose it."

    Oh, and there're lots of Russians involved in the story.

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    I've listened to about half of this so far. At 26 minutes Jeff and his host discuss radical islam, US funding in central asian countries, and the Family's views.

    00:19 The Family: the spookiest Christian group you've never heard of
    07:54 What the Family borrows from Hitler
    19:53 Who's profiting from "Biblical capitalism"?
    40:55 Will takes stock of religious folly
    49:25 Jeff calls for transparency in Christian political strategizing
    54:30 A new convergence of populist and elite fundamentalism

    Will Wilkinson (Niskanen Center, Vox, The Fly Bottle) and Jeff Sharlet (C Street, The Family,
    JeffSharlet.com)


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whjiaLl9zr0



    The Family looks to leaders like Hilter, Mao, Lenin and Stalin as shining examples of power and leadership. They don't really care about left or right in terms of politics. They act through the Republican party because that's the grass their beliefs will grow/have grown in for 70 years.

    As far as mainstream media goes, a Startpage or Duck Duck Go search brings up several interviews with Rachel Maddow and one with Democracy Now (Amy Goodman). If PBS is considered mainstream.

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    At 50:58, "Is your commitment to Democracy, or is your commitment to authority?"

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    At 56:30:

    Every five years the American media calls the Christian right 'dead'. We're now a progressive country. They've been doing this every five years since 1920.

    Just before that Jeff talks about the two sides of Christian movement after the Scopes monkey trial. One part stayed populist and 'banged at the gates'.

    The other part became the elite part and it entered and infiltrated the government.

    It's the slow constraint of Democracy.

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    Many folks thought Trump went over the edge when he described himself as chosen. They missed the point, and he's happy for it.

    There is a Calvinist belief which says only certain folks will receive salvation. They were chosen by God. Nothing they can do themselves will affect that. They cannot pray or do good deeds in order to achieve salvation. They are the chosen.

    The Family doesn't really care how depraved Trump may be. He is powerful. That is evidence of his chosen status. Therefore they will support him.

    As Sharlot has demonstrated, they do not have much real Biblical knowledge or understanding. They don't quote scripture. They seek, obtain, and keep power.

    They are not the outsiders, they are insiders and have been for decades.

    So when folks think Trump is an outsider, they are only looking on the surface and they are missing the point.

    Trump knows exactly what he's saying when he says he is chosen.

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    Looks like a lot of folks aren't equipped to comment on the Family. I can hardly find anyone who even knows. Is it denial? Is it ignorance? Do they think it's just another Westboro Baptist?

    This guy took some time and actually learned something. He also did his own research rather than just regurgitating the Netflix show. He engages in critical analysis.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiOwjEPsPZs


    At 11:45 he talks about Doug Coe and his fascination with Facism.

    I heard about the Family when stories of C Street came out. Why should these guys only have to pay a pittance for rent in our Capital city? Why in the world should taxpayers subsidize them? Especially when they're a religious organization?

    Why? It's not right.

    Ignorance is a fantastic tool which is why the Family flies under the radar.

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    17:37 heads up!

    At 20:40 he lists Umberto Eco's abridged list of the signs of fascism.

    The video has numerous links.

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    This guy was raised in the fundamentalist evangelical tradition. He recognizes the theology used by the Family, and is rather upset at himself for not discovering it earlier.

    I find his personal analysis based on his experience very interesting.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3L82WNK9eo


    At 16 minutes he talks about the involvement of Russia and Russians and the Family's work towards changing the American opinion about Russia.

    This guy says that the Family has taken over the US government and governments all over the world.

    How many Americans really want a theocracy, I wonder?

    He says that if you're an American, a Christian, an atheist, you should watch the series.

    He hasn't addressed the Separation of church and State. I wonder how much he cares? Many folks will put church before the Constitution. How many is what I'd like to know.
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    This fellow does care about the separation of church and state. He is also a religious man. I hope his Caribbean accent isn't too strong. I understand him just fine.

    He explains how working secretly is not Christian work but the work of the devil.

    He points to prophecy which warns of this sort of secret work.

    At 29:45 "This investing the powers of the church with the state will bring evil results."

    He opens and closes with music and prayer. Responsible, imo, opening and closing the circle.


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