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    Both great distractions for the unaware mind ?.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Both great distractions for the unaware mind ?.
    They both play to the home team. The new model of cable news that FOX first so successfully rolled out, and then the others copied *because* it was so successful, is to not without bias aim your programming at the general population, but to *capture* a certain segment of it and cater to it 24/7. Feed the tiger what it wants.

    FOX News caters to Republicans Team Red, MSNBC caters to democrats Team Blue.

    That's why I found it so deliciously hypocritical that not even a minute in, Hannity states "and most of the members of the media are nothing more than shills and an extension of the democratic party". He's actually half right (pardon the pun), but he himself is nothing more than a shill and an extension of the republican party.

    Now if that's your thing, either way, then great. Long as you're aware of what you're going to for news and commentary, and why.
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    Not looking good for Barr either, as his dad employed Epstein, a drop out, at his school, about 5 minutes into vid >


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    Sensationalism? They do have one thing very different about themselves, though. One sensationalizes the already ridiculous and the other sensationalizes the kernel of truth. I'll let one decide which is which.
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    There must be a synthesis of dark and light, I guess. But on whose terms will it be?

    You seem to be doing some good over there, Aragorn. I know first hand how psychically heavy it can get on any forum. So you may find rest if you restrict your time there to an hour a day, or whatever.
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    Quote Originally posted by Daozen View Post
    There must be a synthesis of dark and light, I guess. But on whose terms will it be?

    You seem to be doing some good over there, Aragorn. I know first hand how psychically heavy it can get on any forum. So you may find rest if you restrict your time there to an hour a day, or whatever.
    Yeah, I'm already doing that now.
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    Please look after yourself Aragorn, from my noospheric diving Papa related, table still being set, as breakfast dishes not cleared.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Please look after yourself Aragorn, from my noospheric diving Papa related, table still being set, as breakfast dishes not cleared.
    Oh yes, this thing is far from over yet, and people's masks are still dropping. So I am limiting my exposure.
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    Seen Gio's post about Papa site earlier, do not really go there anymore since the Qetc censoring and it looks to have been BPB created, lol drama fuel. Hang in there Aragorn.

    PS BPB = Bill's pain body

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    I'm not down with the 'alternate' definitions of censor. It's not a word to be throwing around so easily.

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    The music has stopped. A glass has smashed in the corner of the ballroom. The dancers masks are off, and they are staying off. It's fairly civil but there is a deep , unbridgeable, soul-level, divide. Ironically, by attempting to tread the tightrope between the two soul factions for so long... the leadership there has lost the trust of both sides.

    EDIT: At least things are out in the open. It might seem bad right now, but this is actually a step forward for those guys. It's a shame to see so many intelligent, good people caught up in that spirular drama. Much better to talk it out openly and honestly then warily circle each other. Are we "all fighting for the same thing?". Unfortunately I don't think we are.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    I'm not down with the 'alternate' definitions of censor. It's not a word to be throwing around so easily.
    Nothing's being censored over at Project Avalon. No posts or threads have been deleted and all members can still read the QAnonsense™ threads if they want to. It's just that the frantic activity of those threads kept them at the top of the list of recent posts all the time, which made it look like Project Avalon would be a right-wing and pro-Q/pro-Trump forum. And that is neither what that forum is about, nor what Bill Ryan wanted his forum to be about in the first place ─ not to mention that this warped presentation attracts even more far-right fanatics. That's why the wise decision was made to move those threads to members-only.

    The Censorship™ cry is just another trademarked meme from the alt-right. They operate on narrow-minded slogans and knee-jerks as if they are instructions in a computer programming language, rather than on intelligence, discernment, tolerance, and anything else that makes us human ─ there are animals with more discernment and intelligence than that. Maybe they need to put on some of their own Safety Pins™ and find themselves a Safe Space™ to protect themselves from the Evil Baby-Eating Left-Wing Satanic Pedophiles™ while they're masturbating to the American flag right next to that burning cross.

    Everything is now black & white, and there is no grey, let alone color. They can't even see that Trump is just as much a corporate fascist as what they, in their blind rage, term The Globalists™.

    The QAnonsense™ cult is exactly that: a cult. Just as with the Corey Goode cult, the Ruiner cult and the Simon Sez cult. It's a mass psychosis. People see only what they want to see, and in this case, they're completely blind to anything even remotely resembling rational thought or discernment. They must have their Precious. They needs it, they wants it, and they will has it.

    With my apologies for the bitterness, but I'm not taking back a single word from what I've written here-above. Intelligent discourse, facts and gentle argumentation are no longer effective against this madness, which is why we have to administer shock therapy in order to get these fanatics to wake up.


    "A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."

    (Winston Churchill)
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    All very accurate... but what about when 2022/2023 rolls around, and the gatekeeper forums suddenly morph into rabid, fanatical Tulsi/liberal/woman-president supporting enclaves? The current right-wing phase is only a surface manifestation of a deeper sickness. Collectivism, illusionism... call it what you will. One thing we know... fully half the members of that forum are on guard duty. Now we can find a way out of this, but it will take some real honesty and hyper-aware diplomacy. And that particular group is not there yet... stuck as they are on a repetitive carousel.

    Imagine a world where a Q fanatic is your boss at work. No cash exists, all transactions are on a smartphone, and you can be fined at will by a supervisor who knows neither reason nor mercy. That is the world they are trying to build. This forum brouhaha is but a slithy precursor to a real-world-grid. So, thank you kindly, wise-seeress-of-Avalon, for your offer to co-operate, but I decline the offer to contract. This Goose is gonna find some different wingmen/wingwomen.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Nothing's being censored over at Project Avalon. No posts or threads have been deleted and all members can still read the QAnonsense™ threads if they want to. It's just that the frantic activity of those threads kept them at the top of the list of recent posts all the time, which made it look like Project Avalon would be a right-wing and pro-Q/pro-Trump forum. And that is neither what that forum is about, nor what Bill Ryan wanted his forum to be about in the first place ─ not to mention that this warped presentation attracts even more far-right fanatics. That's why the wise decision was made to move those threads to members-only.

    The Censorship™ cry is just another trademarked meme from the alt-right. They operate on narrow-minded slogans and knee-jerks as if they are instructions in a computer programming language, rather than on intelligence, discernment, tolerance, and anything else that makes us human ─ there are animals with more discernment and intelligence than that. Maybe they need to put on some of their own Safety Pins™ and find themselves a Safe Space™ to protect themselves from the Evil Baby-Eating Left-Wing Satanic Pedophiles™ while they're masturbating to the American flag right next to that burning cross.

    Everything is now black & white, and there is no grey, let alone color. They can't even see that Trump is just as much a corporate fascist as what they, in their blind rage, term The Globalists™.

    The QAnonsense™ cult is exactly that: a cult. Just as with the Corey Goode cult, the Ruiner cult and the Simon Sez cult. It's a mass psychosis. People see only what they want to see, and in this case, they're completely blind to anything even remotely resembling rational thought or discernment. They must have their Precious. They needs it, they wants it, and they will has it.

    With my apologies for the bitterness, but I'm not taking back a single word from what I've written here-above. Intelligent discourse, facts and gentle argumentation are no longer effective against this madness, which is why we have to administer shock therapy in order to get these fanatics to wake up.


    "A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."

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    Plenty of people have been banned though and that is probably the greatest form of censorship. If only pre-approved people are allowed to speak, there is no freedom of speech. Not that banning someone isn't justified at times, but there are plenty of ex-members here who can confirm that they were banned for spurious reasons and often with no warning. That is very different from the kind of bans that happened here on TOT, where people were given ample warning and plenty of chances to redeem themselves or correct their behaviour.

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    Thinking

    Being awoken is a very important moment and step in becoming enlightened ...
    And of course Avalon has definitely aided many of us through that process ...

    It's almost like every several years a new group graduates there (if you will).
    Of course visiting and keeping updated over there is quite understandable...
    But there comes a time to move up a notch in one's independent think/speech.

    In many ways this platform (TOT) can help and abide for that transition easily.

    And if there's truly is a new emergence of and for a united/peaceful alternative
    forum community, then The One Truth and its sister Eye-Rise can help facilitate
    in providing a safe and secure place to post and share openly in your journey...

    My membership here is literally proof of that kind of personal transition and freedom.

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