From observation of late Fred, your a wiser man nowadays
From observation of late Fred, your a wiser man nowadays
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It's worse than having underestimated them. I hadn't even thought of it, because I was of the opinion that time would have wiped away those past sins, especially now that Bill and I have both forgiven each other for our past mistakes. I was actually expecting that I'd be some anonymous figure over there, just as I had been during my first tenure there.
Sure, I had a bunch of people on my friends list over there ─ mainly people who had liked my posts and sent me a friendship request ─ and then there are the dual-members who frequent both forums and who thus know me, but other than that, I thought I was just going to be an anonymous face in the crowd.
I absolutely agree. The entire alternative community has been too cavalier about associating with those who represent the antithesis, instead of trying to come to a synthesis.
Well, David Icke himself has already stated years ago that he was both shocked and frustrated over the fact that the only people who were willing to hear him out were the US American white-supremacists of the KKK. Regardless of whatever veracity there would or wouldn't be in his designation of Draco reptilians as the rulers of this world, he once told one of those KKK characters, "I'm not sure what scares me the most ─ the Reptilian Brotherhood, or the world you intend to replace it with."
Yeah, but then again, that's Alex Jones. His middle name is Hyperbole.
Yes. Unlike what is commonly still believed in the West, Russia isn't even remotely left-wing anymore now, let alone that it would be communist. It is now more or less a fascist regime, with Putin as a dictator ─ he'll always find a way to remain in power, even when the law forbids him from running for another term.
When Putin had served his previous two terms, the Russian constitution no longer allowed him to run for a third term, and so he had his right-hand man Medvedev be the president for one term, with himself as prime minister, and then as soon as Medvedev's term had ended, Putin got back in the saddle as president.
No, not in the slightest. I had no idea. mojo is a former moderator from here, and he was always very laid back while he was here as a member. There wasn't a hair on my head that suspected that mojo would have turned into a lying bigot, and I was appealing unto his past experience as a moderator to get him to see the bigger picture.
Boy, was I in for a big surprise!
The only thing I can think of, Brother, is to continue being the change we wish to see, and hope that it catches on.
You're not a Hobbit, Sister. You're an Elf.
No, not at all. In the LOTR mythology, NotAPretender identifies as an Ent. That's why he said that.
I would love for Abby Martin to do an exposé on El Donaldo the Banana Republican™ the way she has done one on Hillary Clinton. But unfortunately, Abby's credibility in the USA has been waning since she started profiling herself more as someone with outspoken progressive ideas.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, because Abby Martin is and has always been an honest investigative journalist with integrity, but the bigots thrive on prejudices, and they've already long stuck a label on Abby by now. They're not going to listen to anything she says anymore. They want Alex Jones and QAnon instead.
See, that's why this thing is so insidious. I don't know whether it's an accomplishment of QAnon or whether it may have come from Breitbart and Trump himself during his election campaign, but there is an entire framework of slogans and memes now for this alt-right to deploy as eating utensils.
Whenever they now see or read something in the news they don't like, then it gets the Fake News™ label stuck onto it and then it is dismissed with prejudice. When they are confronted with someone who doesn't agree with them, then that person is a Snowflake™. When there is a response to their bigotry from people whose brains have not been shredded to a pulp, then they talk about Safety Pins™ and Safe Spaces™. It's an entire vocabulary that now dictates their thought processes, just like a programming language that you use for writing software.
And that's not even such a bizarre analogy, because these people are brainwashed. They won't listen to reason anymore ─ worse than that even: they don't even hear it anymore, and it doesn't register in their brains. They're like zombies now.
And it's only history repeating itself again, because this is the exact same thing as what caused so many atrocities all over the pages of the history books ─ e.g. the genocides in Rwanda, Sierra Leone, et al ─ and it's exactly how dictators like Adolf Hitler managed to rise to power. Likewise, in South Africa, after the fall of Apartheid. South Africa is now a very dangerous place to live if you are white, because a large part of the black population is still completely outraged after all those years of suppression and abuse by the white minority, and they don't care whom they're taking it out on, so long as it's a white person.
That light bulb has already gone off a few times in the last couple of days, Brother. There's something very "karmic" about this whole situation.
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Q has been just as good as Abbey imo, love them both and sad to see both attacked.Originally posted by Aragorn
Last edited by Aragorn, 8th July 2019 at 21:49. Reason: added quoting tags and attribution
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Let me ask you a question Vern: Q strongly advocates for actions like regime change in Iran, while Abby is devoted to demonstrating things like the U.S. long sordid history of overthrowing foreign governments, destabilizing entire regions in doing so, and why it's a cruel and monstrous foreign policy to be doing so.
How do you find the two comparable by any stretch of the imagination?
Please help me understand.
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I really think you still don't see what QAnon is doing, Vern, and what it has been doing all along. QAnon is the very thing that's driving a wedge between people who used to be able to get along fine, and it's the very unscrupulous cause of this mass psychosis and rage. It's a fascist propaganda machine, and it has no sense of ethics at all, let alone empathy.
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Aragon, do you really think talking to Vern in the way you chastised the Q fans over at The Project, is going to help bridge any of these ever widening gaps between mostly well meaning people who happen to have some deep disagreements over certain things?
IMO this kind of approach will only help bring on the possible looming street battles I hinted at earlier between say Antifa, and the white nationalists. Each side will harden until we are left to watch the two extremes battle it out for supremacy.
I don't want to see that kind of escalation from both sides. There is a better way IMO.
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you're not really gonna win that battle here either, Aragorn...unfortunate, though it might be. Is there a middle ground to be found in the 'Q' world? Commander Ryker was never more than 'Number 2' to 'Q'
“El revolucionario: te meteré la bota en el culo"
The "Q" entity of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" was actually a good guy pretending to be a bad guy, but one only finds out about that in the very last episode of the series, "All Good Things...". QAnon on the other hand is a bad guy ─ actually, more than one ─ who's pretending to be a good guy. Sauron's One Ring, with a hook attached to it.
Anyway, I've exhausted all of my energy for today ─ I have been tending to yet other matters than The One Truth ─ and I'm tired of being criticized, suspected, accused, and all those other things that are unpleasant. I'm out of here.
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“El revolucionario: te meteré la bota en el culo"
Is there not regime change happening atm in Iran, maybe not the old way though.
Is this man lying ?
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Something organic? Not that I'm aware of, if there's something you know that I don't I'm all ears.
I think the more accurate question would be, does this man let his political leanings interfere with his critical thinking skills? In the same way he accuses others of differing political stripes of doing within the first minute?
Here's a follow up question: What do FOX News, and MSNBC have in common?
The unexamined life is not worth living.
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