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    Bye Bye CV19

    Thank goodness indeed, what a divide n concur those two years was, sheesh, seeing cobwebs everywhere regards vaxx passes etc, Israel a surprise but great to see all scientests and Doctors getting a say, this may imo carry on elsewhere hopefulllly.

    Feel many will sift through the differing data pro n con over the next few years, some countries like NZ n Aussie are trying to make the omicron variant deadly and dangerous but not working as statistics world wide show a different story.

    Alien landings or climate death change next ?.
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    Last edited by Wind, 19th January 2022 at 04:00.
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    Hearing that the USAian court decisions to not mandate as such is one main reason for the atm bye bye cv19 ripple.

    Would imo add joe Rogan's two doctor podcasts late last year that also assisted and Rogan pummelled that CNN doctor also, around ivermectim lies he told and ratings at CNN = real shallow.

    So we have a ratings dive for CNN etc and a CV19 dive at same time.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Thank goodness indeed, what a divide n concur those two years was, sheesh, seeing cobwebs everywhere regards vaxx passes etc, Israel a surprise but great to see all scientests and Doctors getting a say, this may imo carry on elsewhere hopefulllly.

    Feel many will sift through the differing data pro n con over the next few years, some countries like NZ n Aussie are trying to make the omicron variant deadly and dangerous but not working as statistics world wide show a different story.
    Omicron is less deadly than any of the previous variants, but at the same time it is also far more contagious ─ three times as contagious as the delta variant, and six times as contagious as the original alpha variant.

    I have not been tested, but I believe that I may have had it myself two weeks ago. It was not as bad as the first two infections. I had a mild fever for about four days, and it started with a diarrhea, just like the previous two times. Added a bit of sneeze. No sore throat, no pain in the lungs, no unusual coughing ─ I'm a smoker, so I have a cough anyway. Blood pressure was up a bit too. But that was it.

    However, bear no mistake, the delta variant is still deadly, albeit that like the earlier variants, it appears to depend upon one's blood type and genetic makeup.
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    Hangers on Wind but yes.

    Well i may be incorrect as i was under the impression that omi was ten or more times more transmissable and makes the delta's etc harmless once you had omi, mmmmm who to believe
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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Hangers on Wind but yes.

    Well i may be incorrect as i was under the impression that omi was ten or more times more transmissable and makes the delta's etc harmless once you had omi, mmmmm who to believe
    Delta is twice as contagious ─ or transmittable, as you call it ─ as the original alpha strain, and just as deadly. Omicron is three times as contagious as delta, and thus six times as contagious as alpha, but far less deadly, resulting in fewer admissions to hospital and to the ICU wards.

    Having had either variant does not stop one from getting infected again. However, that which has been stated ─ and why you are confused ─ is that if a person has recently had delta first and then omicron, then they appear to have developed a super-immunity, which even renders them immune against the common cold and certain other viruses.

    Or at least, for a while, because immunity never lasts forever. My immunity after my first infection was evidently already all gone after six months, because that's when I got infected the second time.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Delta is twice as contagious ─ or transmittable, as you call it ─ as the original alpha strain, and just as deadly. Omicron is three times as contagious as delta, and thus six times as contagious as alpha, but far less deadly, resulting in fewer admissions to hospital and to the ICU wards.

    Having had either variant does not stop one from getting infected again. However, that which has been stated ─ and why you are confused ─ is that if a person has recently had delta first and then omicron, then they appear to have developed a super-immunity, which even renders them immune against the common cold and certain other viruses.

    Or at least, for a while, because immunity never lasts forever. My immunity after my first infection was evidently already all gone after six months, because that's when I got infected the second time.
    yeah, I had omicron as did many others around me ... the fact that it is not as deadly has again made people complacent, including myself, about contracting it. There is still the major threat of mutation and it seems possible that Omicron could mutate to a more deadly form but I don't know the history on 'retrograde' type mutant variations.
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    Quote Originally posted by BeastOfBologna View Post
    yeah, I had omicron as did many others around me ... the fact that it is not as deadly has again made people complacent, including myself, about contracting it. There is still the major threat of mutation and it seems possible that Omicron could mutate to a more deadly form but I don't know the history on 'retrograde' type mutant variations.
    It still remains to be seen. There's also a chance that the virus won't be trying to mutate anymore ─ micro-mutations do of course occur due to the different hosts, but those are insignificant ─ because it's already so effective at propagating itself. A virus that kills its host is itself also doomed, but a virus that only mildly affects its host has a much better chance of survival.

    And ─ check this out ─ a recent study claims that evolution is not the result of random mutations (as per Charles Darwin's so far unilaterally accepted theory of evolution), but rather of very carefully selected mutations. I have personally always believed that ─ because it leaves room for the spiritual angle of evolution ─ and now geneticists are saying the same thing.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    It still remains to be seen. There's also a chance that the virus won't be trying to mutate anymore ─ micro-mutations do of course occur due to the different hosts, but those are insignificant ─ because it's already so effective at propagating itself. A virus that kills its host is itself also doomed, but a virus that only mildly affects its host has a much better chance of survival.

    And ─ check this out ─ a recent study claims that evolution is not the result of random mutations (as per Charles Darwin's so far unilaterally accepted theory of evolution), but rather of very carefully selected mutations. I have personally always believed that ─ because it leaves room for the spiritual angle of evolution ─ and now geneticists are saying the same thing.
    yeah, I saw that, it was interesting ... I had never considered the spiritual aspects in quite that fashion, but it does counter the notion of 'waste'. If it isn't random then it is not wasting divine resources.
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    CV-19 isn't over any more than the flu is over. Because it won't be over. It will become endemic. It should become less dangerous. Delta wasn't. Omicron is, sort of. It may be less deadly in the illness it causes in an individual, especially if they've been vaccinated, but it is still quite dangerous and hospitals are once again overloaded which is also dangerous.

    The flu is quite deadly as many folks have pointed out during this pandemic. The flu vaccines are much less effective than the Covid vaccines. They only have a bout a 60% rate of coverage and it can be much worse some years since the vaccine makers have to basically guess which strain will be the infectious one.

    We're really quite fortunate to have vaccines that are as effective as they are for this coronavirus.

    The immune system learns by encountering microbes. It takes time for the immune system to learn. Sometimes there is not enough time to learn before the virus ravages. Sometimes there is not enough time to learn before it kills. Sometimes there is not enough time before it does permanent damage.

    It's a high risk to take.

    We can educate our immune systems. Give them a lesson. Hey! Here's what this protein looks like. Beware!!!

    It's a pretty good system to avoid some pretty terrible outcomes.
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    Oh of course it not be over DT if you wish, am seeing it everywhere dissapating atm, not you ?

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Oh of course it not be over DT if you wish, am seeing it everywhere dissapating atm, not you ?

    Who was it that said if you fit into an insane society it might not be a good thing?
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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Oh of course it not be over DT if you wish, am seeing it everywhere dissapating atm, not you ?


    Do you honestly think that the wellbeing of US multinational corporations outweighs the health of the people, even if the people don't even realize what's hanging over their heads due to the pro-corporatist and pro-capitalist propaganda, as so overtly displayed in this ─ once again ─ USA-centric and USA-manufactured video from a proven disinformation lobbyist on the far-right of the ─ once again ─ US-political spectrum, Vern?

    Shame on you! Really, shame on you!





    Quote Originally posted by BeastOfBologna View Post
    Who was it that said if you fit into an insane society it might not be a good thing?
    I don't know who said it, but I cannot disagree with that.
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    Will not even enter-tain your projection Aragorn, please keep it seemly on this thread, being triggered etc.

    You know where you may put your shame thankyou.

    Into the data, the facts, the truths, the lies, the propaganda, not the gesara silliness etc look Aragorn cnn spews news, fox spews news, radio spews news etc , is it true , is it proppaganda, is it wag the dog ???, the cv19 narrative is dying, other fears will be grasped at, most likely climate as climate change needs everyone to pay tax.

    Atm all around the world, bye bye is happening, simple yes ???.
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