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    Big Oil - historic damage happening to our Seas

    One of the most damaging events in history is about to hit the earth - that is deep sea and shallow continental shelf exploration for oil and gas, using what is called 3D Seismic Air-Gun explosions.

    These explosions literally harm and damage organisms from plankton, shrimp, lobsters, other crustaceans, fish and of course marine mammals such as whales and dolphins and seals.

    The industry seriously DOES NOT CARE one iota about the damage that they create or the harm that is produced by the actual search efforts.

    Off Africa right now plans are being made to create surveys literally from South Africa all the way up the Atlantic (west) side to Morocco at the Straits of Gibraltar.

    Plankton -
    Without it two primary issues will exist: fish will die from lack of food, and CO2 will not be recycled properly back into the seas, resulting in a larger CO2 build-up planetwide.

    What is this off-shore 3D seismic explosive surveying?



    During exploration for oil and gas formations seismic airguns are towed with a vessel and release pulses of sounds from 225 to 250 decibels several times per minute (Richardson et al. 1995).

    To put that number in perspective, the noise from a jet engine is 140 decibels—seismic airguns are 100,000 times more intense than a jet engine.

    Airguns produce sound by creating a compressed air bubble, which collapses under the pressure of the water (Popper et al. 2005).

    The surveys off the US Atlantic coast will have on average about 20,000,000 such explosions during the surveys.

    It looks like this:



    Dead plankton, stunned fish: the harms of man-made ocean noise (from June 2018 article)

    Human-caused ocean noise and its dangers to marine life are the focus of meetings at the United Nations this week, a victory for advocacy groups that have long warned of this problem.

    A boat tows 12-48 airguns at a time, each of which shoot loud blasts of compressed air. These blasts are EXPLOSIONS.

    These sound waves pass through the water and hit the seabed, and penetrate deeply, up to 20 thousands of feet into rock layers, reflecting back information about buried oil and gas deposits that can be used to create three-dimensional maps.

    The blasts are repeated every 12-15 seconds, over vast areas of the ocean at high volume, sometimes for weeks on end. The high volume damages internal structure of that which is in the seas, from the plankton which are the building blocks for higher life forms (food), through the larger organisms such as fish and marine mammals.

    With that much penetration energy, what happens to ANYTHING in the water subject to the shock waves?

    A review of 115 studies done mainly in the 1990s and 2000s, showed the effects of ocean noise on 66 species of fish and 36 kinds of invertebrates, or animals without a backbone.

    Zooplankton were found to be highly vulnerable to seismic blasts. A 2007 study showed that one blast, even at a lower level than those typically used in oil and gas prospecting operations, could decimate half the zooplankton in the area.

    Up to 95 percent of certain species died.

    Zooplankton form the base of the foodchain, and are vital nutrition for whales and numerous invertebrates like oysters and shrimp.

    Fish can suffer internal injuries and change their behavior. Becoming disoriented by the noise, they may swim away or freeze in place.

    According to studies in 1996 and 2012, seismic airgun blasts caused haddock and cod to flee, reducing the catch rate by 20 to 70 percent in some areas.

    Some fish swam deeper, where they could be more vulnerable, while others were caught with empty stomachs, a sign they had stopped eating.

    To date, about 130 species have been documented to be impacted.

    Necropsy analysis to brain damage from explosive shockwaves:

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    While the US is coming up with ways to STOP oil and gas exploration off the eastern seaboard, and off shore in Alaska, Canada says FINE do it.

    Canada continues to allow off-shore oil and gas exploration, quite a hypocritical stand while "faces" scream that oil and gas burning is raising the temperature past the critical 2 degree point.

    If Canada was truly concerned like the US courts are, the US courts have reversed Trump's opening of the continental shelf for exploration) they would shut down exploration. Instead they INSIST on allowing off-shore air-gun exploration, especially in the prime fishing grounds.

    Are fishermen complaining the harvests of fish and products from the sea are dwindling (in the areas where the airgun surveys are happening) - yes, most certainly.

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    Black and White observations:
    There are about 41,000 businesses and 500,000 commercial fishing families who oppose seismic testing.

    These groups oppose seismic exploration because those explosions can harm and displace fish, greatly reducing the populations that both commercial and recreational fishers depend upon.

    In other parts of the world, catch rates for species like cod and rockfish have fallen by 50 to 70 percent in the days after seismic tests.
    The tourism industry can also be affected, since airgun noise can potentially force whales to beach themselves.

    “Tourists don’t like to see dying marine mammals on the beach”.

    Ecology minded groups weigh in - see https://www.oceanfdn.org/our-story/board-directors

    “The ocean is an acoustic world—a world of hearing not vision,” says Michael Jasny, an expert in the law and policy of ocean noise pollution at the Natural Resources Defense Council.
    These explosions can substantially injure the internal organs of fish, as well as the hair cells that allow them to hear - It can damage the organs that allow invertebrates, from rock lobsters to giant squid, to maintain their balance.

    It slows development, induces damaging levels of long-term stress, forces animals to seek shelter instead of feeding, prevents them from spotting predators.

    The explosive seismic 3D surveying is a criminal act against nature.

    “For whales and dolphins, which rely on their hearing to find food, communicate, and reproduce, being able to hear is a life or death matter,” according to Oceana an ecology organization who studies and educates people to the damages created by ocean seismic exploration.

    Airgun explosions create a shockwave which can be heard thousands of miles away, and not just “right under the airgun array”. Direct results up to 4000 feet away from
    the blast - dead plankton, stunned fish - from “The harms of man-made ocean noise” (Link: from June 2018 article).

    Human-caused ocean noise and its dangers to marine life are the focus of meetings at the United Nations, which would be a victory for advocacy groups that have long
    warned of this problem.

    Eco-News website page: https://www.ecori.org/renewable-ener...or-oil-and-gas

    A review of 115 studies done mainly in the 1990s and 2000s, showed the effects of ocean noise on 66 species of fish and 36 kinds of invertebrates, or animals without a
    backbone.

    Zooplankton were found to be highly vulnerable to seismic blasts. A 2007 study showed that one blast, even at a lower level than those typically used in oil and gas prospecting operations, could decimate half the zooplankton in the area. Up to 95 percent of certain species died.

    Zooplankton form the base of the food-chain, and are vital nutrition for whales and numerous invertebrates like oysters and shrimp. Zooplankton can also include tiny
    jellyfish, crustaceans, and the larval stages of fish.

    Fish can suffer internal injuries and change their behavior. Becoming disoriented by the noise, they may swim away or freeze in place.

    What can we do?

    We need to stay aware of where 3D off-shore air-gun seismic surveying is happening and file protests with the government and the agencies who allow permitting to these groups.

    Our own research group has come up with a way to do deep-sea surveying without airguns. We are willing to go to the areas that airgun surveys will be conducted and
    beat them to the punch, gathering the data AND PUBLISHING that there is NOTHING THERE.

    Wasting money up to 30 million $ US per survey is a bad business practice.

    The airgun survey groups get money from investors, who expect the airgun exploration company to then license the data to oil companies who will want to drill.

    The existing 3D airgun derived seismic data is next to useless for providing any accuracy as to where to drill.

    During drilling exercises, such as the BP disaster in the US Gulf of Mexico, the hazards of an area are not fully known with existing 3D airgun surveys.

    Off Africa so many numerous "non-economically viable holes have been drilled" which runs the risk of leaks that can contaminate the fishing waters, the coastal areas..

    We propose to create a situation, a monkey-wrenching so to speak, economically, to existing air-gun survey exploration groups, by getting in there first where the surveys will be done, and verifying that there is NOTHING THERE.

    No oil company is going to license useless data that shows NOTHING is there.

    Enough of that happening and it will become useless to do off-shore-airgun surveying.
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    that's freakin' murder...
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    And it is murder to ALL LIFE on earth - a ticking time bomb - no plankton, no food, no CO2 cleaning...

    What's left? Future scenario if left unchecked, unstopped:

    • 'Plastic food' made from oil, sold by the big oil corporation to the world (Bayer/Monsanto GMO "solutions") (many of our pharmaceuticals are made from oil or coal products..)
    • Toxic Air
    • Toxic Water
    • Hundreds of thousands, if not millions unemployed
    • Permanent economic slavery to the 'corporation'
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    The Grand Banks Fishing grounds off Newfoundland, Canada used to be one of the most abundant and yearly sustainable fishing grounds for at least a hundred years.

    Over the last 9 years though, Canada has allows 3D-Seismic AIRGUN surveys, covering a large part of the Grand Banks.

    Fishermen have been finding year after year, after the start of the offshore AirGun surveys within the Grand banks, that fishing is dwindling to alarming levels.

    The Canadian Government then chose to BLAME the fishermen who have harvested properly for many many years prior to the airgun surveying.

    They say the fishermen are OVER-FISHING.. Strange.. If there were adequate plankton, the amount of fish would not be dwindling to dangerous levels.

    If there were no ACTIVE airgun surveying within the Fishing grounds, there would be adequate fish.


    Interesting eh?

    Canada says YES PLEASE DO more offshore airgun surveying in the Grand Banks for the NEXT 5 years !!

    By that time all the plankton will have been decimated, and the fish population dwindled to minimums..

    And big oil can give Canada's licensing agencies, their KICKBACK (called permitting fees) to continue to phase 2, drilling dry holes on the 3D airgun seismic..

    Is that right? Good business? Kill off fishing for big oil? For profits pocketed way higher to Canada than what they would make from sales of fish?
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    interesting...in the skin color thread...Dr. Zablonski cites the impact of the depletion of vitamin D rich sources of fish...Cod for example, on human health.
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    I sometimes feel that some peoples are so self loathsome and externalizing this, that when they fly their flag/desire/duty/job that is very simply stupid and future human wise damaging, gosh to the point of pushing Mummy Earth too far, is a form of waving to the Were's ( former TPTb ) send money and help to this project and or pass this bill etc.

    That is a lot of people affected so surely push back is happening ?.

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    Most certainly there is some activity to block - the oil companies and exploration companies just continue to plow ahead saying there is no damage no worries; they have spotters who look out for whales (but the have nothing taking plankton counts before and after, as that would be the smoking gun..

    https://www.ecori.org/renewable-ener...or-oil-and-gas

    here's the board of the Ocean Foundation - https://www.oceanfdn.org/our-story/board-directors

    What an airgun looks like:



    https://usa.oceana.org/climate-and-e...ntic-ocean-and

    More than 350 municipalities and over 2,100 elected local, state and federal officials have formally opposed offshore oil and gas drilling and seismic airgun blasting, including more than 250 along the Atlantic and Gulf Coasts. All the Governors along the East and West coasts - Republicans and Democrats alike - have expressed concerns with and/or opposition to expanded oil and gas exploration, development, and production off their coasts, including the Governors of Washington, Oregon, California, Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida. Along the Atlantic Coast, numerous fishing and tourism interests, including local chambers of commerce, tourism and restaurant associations, and an alliance representing over 46,000 businesses and 500,000 fishing families from Florida to Maine, also strongly oppose oil exploration and/or development off the East Coast.

    Additionally, the Pacific, North Pacific, New England, South Atlantic, and Mid-Atlantic Fishery Management Councils have all expressed concerns about the risks posed by seismic surveys and oil and gas development to managed resources, fisheries and coastal communities in the Atlantic. Finally, NASA, the Department of Defense, and the Florida Defense Support Task Force have all expressed concerns about expanded offshore oil and gas development threatening their ability to perform critical activities.
    there are quite a few communities opposed in the US, but the move is to allow airgun use.

    Canada has no opposition, all of Africa offers no opposition, such happens also in the North Sea off the UK and off Norway - no stop.. The only opposition appears to be strong in the US..
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