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    The other vid spoken of >


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    So so curious on these two, just watching > few years old >


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    my net went down in the middle of a post...

    it was about homo antecessor...evolution in Eurasia (not Out of Africa) The Ghost population in Eurasia that probably practiced head squashing was possibly from Ma'lta...Provided genetics for Europe and Native Americans and a good share of the world but preceeded...fork i'll finish it later...homo antecessor and the ghost are not the same group. The ghost separated from archaic European hunter gatherers and East Asians prior to their own separation.
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    NAP I feel we have much to remember.

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    I think I can explain from an archaic genetic perspective the Holocaust and perhaps much of the other unrest in the Middle East.

    We have seen videos explaining the history of the Egyptians, Iranians, and Israelis. Those 3 areas in Eurasia have a high percentage of what is termed 'Basal Eurasian' genetics. What is interesting about that is that those populations high in Basal Eurasian genetics have an almost complete absence of 'neanderthal' genetics. So the story reads that Europeans do have a common ancestry with archaic peoples from the Near East but the surprise is that their are 2 archaic people that helped populate Eurasia. The 'Basal Eurasians' that were hunter-gatherers living in established settlements that weren't traveling to subsist and the Neanderthal-Homo Sapiens hunter gatherers that were true to their name, hunting and gathering for subsistence.

    I would assert that the people that have always sought to eliminate the Jews (Basal Eurasians) were/are (Neaderthal/Homo Sapiens). Neanderthal/Homos are predominately Europeans and Native Americans. Denisovan/Homos are predominately New Guineans, Malaysians, and Australian Aborigines.

    That's my theory for today.
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    Not surprisingly it appears that Iranian and Israeli archaic genetics were as differentiated as today's Western European and East Asian is.

    Anyone with blonde hair might find this interesting: The earliest known genetic mutation for blonde hair was found at the Lake Baikal area within the last 5 thousand years.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Not surprisingly it appears that Iranian and Israeli archaic genetics were as differentiated as today's Western European and East Asian is.

    Anyone with blonde hair might find this interesting: The earliest known genetic mutation for blonde hair was found at the Lake Baikal area within the last 5 thousand years.
    No actually it was interesting with learning about the beady eyes and the pointed nose.
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    Here's the good stuff:


    This guy in his spare time built Stonehenge...or at least some of his descendants pre-5,000 years ago. They were known as the Funnel Beaker people and were genetically related to the southern Eurasian farmers. Their culture was characterized as highly stratified and female oriented. They indeed are gone either eliminated or subsumed by the Corded Ware people, who are descended from the Yamnaya whose culture is characterized as violence worshipping and male oriented (no surprise) who managed to spread their genes and completely transform Northern Europe. It is speculated that as carriers of the Bubonic plague that it might have hastened the demise of the farming cultures that had resided there for thousands of years. There is a precursor language bearing culture that precipitated the spread of both indo-European centric languages and some of those that have not survived to modernity, one example cited is Hittite.

    One of the interesting and central features of the 'Beaker' lineage is its propensity to build 'megaliths'. It is speculated that the reason for such efforts were to delineate territory and to differentiate their culture from the presumably encroaching non-farming communities...hunter-gatherers/steppe pastoralists.
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    The Fall of the Indus Civilization - David Reich

    In the oldest text of Hinduism, the Rig Veda, the warrior god Indra rides against his impure enemies, or dasa, in a horse-drawn chariot, destroys their fortresses, or pur, and secures land and water for his people, the arya, or Aryans.

    Composed between four thousand and three thousand years ago in Old Sanskrit, the Rig Veda was passed down orally for some two thousand years before being written down, much like the Iliad and Odyssey in Greece, which were composed several hundred years later in another early Indo-European language. The Rig Veda is an extraordinary window into the past, as it provides a glimpse of what Indo-European culture might have been like in a period far closer in time to when these languages radiated from a common source. But what did the stories of the Rig Veda have to do with read events? Who were the dasa, who were the arya, and where wer the fortresses located? Did anything like this really happen.

    There was tremendous excitement about the possibility of using archaeology to gain insight into these questions in the 1920s and 1930s. In those years, excavations uncovered the remains of an ancient civilization, walled cities at Harappa. Mohenjo-daro, and elsewhere in the Punjab and Sind that dated from forty-five hundred to thirty-eight hundred years ago. These cities and smaller towns and villages dotted the valley of the river Indus in present-day Pakistan and parts and parts of India, and some of them sheltered tens of thousands of people. Were they perhaps the fortresses, or pur; of the Rig Veda?

    Indus Valley Civilization cities were surrounded by perimeter walls and laid out on grids. They had ample storage for grain supplied by farming of land in the surrounding river plains. The cities sheltered craftspeople skilled in working clay, gold, copper, shell, and wood. The people of the Indus Valley Civilization engaged in prolific trade and commerce, as reflected in the stone weights and measures they left behind, and their trading partners, who lived as far away as Afghanistan, Arabia, Mesopotamia, and even Africa. They made decorative seals with images of humans or animals. There were often signs or symbols on the seals whose meaning remains largely undeciphered.

    Since the original excavations, many things about the Indus Valley Civilization have remained enigmatic, not only its script. The greatest mystery is its decline. Around thirty-eight hundred years ago, the settlements of the Indus dwindled, with population centers shifting east toward the Ganges plain. Around this time, the Rig Veda was composed in Old Sanskrit, a language that is ancestral to the great majority of languages spoken in northern India today and that had diverged in the millennium before the Rig Veda was composed from the languages spoken in Iran. Indo-Iranian languages are in turn cousins of almost all of the languages spoken in Europe and with the make up the Indo-European language family. The religion of the Rig Veda, with its pantheon of deities governing nature and regulating society, had unmistakable similarities to the mythology of other parts of Indo-European Eurasia, including Iran, Greece, and Scandinavia, providing further evidence of cultural links across vast expanses of Eurasia.

    Some have speculated that the collapse of the Indus Valley Civilization was caused by the arrival in the region of migrants from the north and speaking Indo-European languages, the so-called Indo Aryans.
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    In the Rig Veda, the invaders had horses and chariots. We know from archaeology the the Indus Valley Civilization was a pre-horse society. There is no clear evidence of horses at their sites, nor are there remains of spoke-wheeled vehicles, although there are clay figurines of wheeled carts pulled by cattle. Horses and spoke-wheeled chariots were the weapons of mass destruction of Bronze Age Eurasia. Did the Indo-Aryans use their military technology to put an end to the old Indus Valley Civilization?

    Since the original excavations at Harappa, the “Aryan invasion theory” has been seized on by nationalists in both Europe and India, which makes the idea difficult to discuss in an objective way. European racists, including the Nazis, were drawn to the idea of an invasion of India in which the dark-skinned inhabitants were subdued by light-skinned warriors related to northern Europeans, who imposed on them a hierarchical caste system that forbade intermarriage across groups. To the Nazis and others, the distribution of the Indo-European language family, linking Europe to India and having little impact on the Near East with its Jews, spoke of an ancient conquest moving out of an ancestral homeland, displacing and subjugating the people of the conquered territories, an event that they wished to emulate. Some placed the ancestral homeland of the Indo-Aryans in northeast Europe, including Germany. They also adopted features of Vedic mythology as their own, calling themselves Aryans after the term in the Rig Veda, and appropriating the swastika, a traditional Hindu symbol of good fortune.

    The Nazis’ interest in migrations and the spread of Indo-European languages has made it difficult for serious scholars in Europe to discuss the possibility of migrations spreading Indo-European languages. In India, the possibility that the Indus Valley Civilization fell at the hand of migrating Indo-European speakers coming from the north is also fraught, as it suggests that important elements of South Asian culture might have been influenced from the outside.
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