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    only silence the parts that lie without the minutest touch of compunction. There is no future for anyone if we continue to countenance lies. Lies only benefit the liars and usually temporarily. The temporary has lasted much much too long.
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    The media lied for two or so years that Trump did this n that and would be impeached, they said this in real mind control fashion, was that okay ?.

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    It would not have been if it had happened that way...but it didn't
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    Sammy! Great to see you. How go the synchronicities?

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    The media is irrelevant when it comes to Trump's crimes. There are actual records all over the place. Many are publicly available. And there are many people who can witness to his behaviors.

    That's how we find the truth. Not by 'believing' the media.

    A person listens with a critical ear, just like they would with a friend who likes to bullshit. You listen through it for the grains of truth. And if you can find them elsewhere, you don't waste time with that friend on the subject.


    I'm bored with seeing the media used as a scapegoat for ignoring facts and evidence. And many of my friends have lost much credibility making such excuses.

    Their judgement is now called into question.

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    Quote Originally posted by Sammy View Post
    The game plan is to eliminate the battlefield.

    "The left can't argue with conservative ideas so they try to silence them."

    [uh-oh... Sammy's back.]

    See what farcebook and shwitter, etc. are doing...
    Hi friends... ok, I asked to be "un-retired" and Aragorn kindly accommodated. I did so because, gosh... well, I missed TOT and I also missed interacting with others, especially when these others have shown me they have depth to their being like most folks that I encountered here on TOT.

    Yet the first thing I do is dive into a thread that is political. This was stupid and I regret it and so now I am writing a post to try and "get out of it."

    So my point was that it appears more and more the social media platforms are ramping up censorship. On the one hand, I can understand drawing a line with regards to what someone might post on something like facebook or twitter or TOT for that matter. But what I have seen happening is that those who (like myself) are perceived to have certain social and/or political views by the "shot-callers" at some of these platforms whereby these "shot callers" conclude that if these views are expressed on their platform, these views could influence others in their thinking such that the goals of these owners (and what ends up being most of the workers as the owners hire those who they perceive share the same views) of these platforms are perceptively threatened - they start to censure and eventually de-platform these folks.

    So my dismay is all about having to accept that a bully class backed by an entangled web of others who, group by group, have their own goals, often not the same (and not necessarily in opposition) and often quite diverse goals where these groups have concluded that they would benefit from a silencing of their perceived opposition or their perceived obstacles to achieving their goals... that opposition being far more unified in their overall thinking - ala. conservatives for example or libertarian conservatives (as I would characterize myself if I had to).

    So a great example of this is this strange "blip" called Donald Trump. You have a huge swath of humanity that hates this guy so much that they are not only willing to turn a blind eye to what has been done to him and/or attempted to be done to him... things that few in this country of the USA would ever condone and in many cases ever imagine possible, they either allow themselves to submit to extreme cognitive dissonance or they consciously and by choice abandon any morality and/or ethics and then cheer on the efforts no matter how immoral, unethical or illegal they might be.

    So I am literally lost in this world. I find myself quite alone. I travel outside the US and besides, am a member of a multinational/multiracial family starting with my wife from Colombia. Thus I am terribly embarrassed by this guy, Trump. He's not just some successful business guy from New York. He got elected president of a major country, certainly in the top 5 most influential (for good or bad) nations on Earth today. Yet (sadly and right out of the box when he announced he would run for President) he's proven himself completely incapable of consistently speaking/acting in a way that doesn't embarrass the hell out of me.

    But on the same token, to know what was done to a.) try to prevent him from becoming President and b.) to try and extricate him from office once he was elected considering the tactics it appears clearer and clearer every day that were used is far, far more disconcerting.

    You (we) can vote the guy out of office which solves the Trump problem.

    But to not be outraged, no matter what your social and/or political views by what "they" almost got away with (and may to some extent still get away with), demonstrates to me a form or moral bankruptcy that is so tremendously dis-heartening I am terribly ashamed of and for the folks here in the US but also forhumanity as a whole.

    I am disgusted by the "administrative state." I am discussed by the political class that allowed the administrative state to grow to what it had become. I am disgusted by the media. I am disgusted by those who are not outraged by what has gone on for whatever reasons they so justify.

    So I figured if I were to come back and try and be a poster on TOT, seeing how the Trump Obsession Syndrome is alive and well here (note that the Trump Obsession Syndrome is pervasive on all sides and I would be lying if I did not admit I, also, have been impacted by TOS) I probably would need to throw up a wall to "wall myself away" from feeding this monster that is still alive and kicking within my own self and observably in others.

    Thus I pray this is my last post that may be considered social and/or political while also being Trump related. I leave open the door to discussing social issues. And I know social issues cannot avoid being used by politicians. But I am going to strive to never cross that line where I might get dragged into the political aspect.

    I hope folks will respect my desire here, my goal here... but also, if I am perceived to cross this line in any of my posts, besides the fact I know I will be called out, I officially invite being called out.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Sammy! Great to see you. How go the synchronicities?

    Ahhhh and thanks for the welcome back and I mean what I say in the previous post soooooo.... the far more intriguing subject to me is exactly what you just asked about.

    I have been away for what, a year and a half or so? I left for many reasons (left all forums at the same time). One was because I had entered into a business project which only a week ago ended! Thankfully so, by the way.

    And what immediately began to happen the very next day I officially cut that chord was that the magic returned and when it does (speaking for myself only here), the synchronicities began to spring forth in the most amazing ways.

    My interpretation of that is this - "Sam, your little venture has offered you further proof that when you are on the right path, you experience the magical life... when not, not only does the magic vanish... but you find yourself immersed in complete lack of fulfillment."

    That was the case, I think I proved it to myself (again but hopefully) for the last time!

    And there is one other reason I left which I will likely end up writing about yet I need to be careful of what I say lest actions arise from others based on their previous threats.

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    Quote Originally posted by Sammy View Post
    Hi friends... ok, I asked to be "un-retired" and Aragorn kindly accommodated. I did so because, gosh... well, I missed TOT and I also missed interacting with others, especially when these others have shown me they have depth to their being like most folks that I encountered here on TOT.
    Well, of course I accommodated, Brother. Over here at The One Truth, a sabbatical is solely applied as per the member's own request ─ it is not used as a penitentiary measure ─ and therefore, when the member in question wishes to return to an active role, then it's only natural that we would comply.

    Quote Originally posted by Sammy View Post
    [...] So my point was that it appears more and more the social media platforms are ramping up censorship. On the one hand, I can understand drawing a line with regards to what someone might post on something like facebook or twitter or TOT for that matter. But what I have seen happening is that those who (like myself) are perceived to have certain social and/or political views by the "shot-callers" at some of these platforms whereby these "shot callers" conclude that if these views are expressed on their platform, these views could influence others in their thinking such that the goals of these owners (and what ends up being most of the workers as the owners hire those who they perceive share the same views) of these platforms are perceptively threatened - they start to censure and eventually de-platform these folks.

    [...]
    Well, we ourselves ─ and perhaps I myself in particular ─ have been accused of censorship, and in fact, it wasn't all that long ago. But I will say that those who've accused us/me of such were only putting up a straw man because we wouldn't let them have their ways. The One Truth does not censor, but we will also not allow our forum to be abused for the posting of any kind of propaganda ─ and especially not when it contains hate speech ─ nor will we remain silent when somebody insists on promoting proven misinformation as being the truth.

    In the event of the propagandists, we have had to intervene by shutting down the propaganda threads, and in a second degree ─ because the perpetrators were trying to outsmart us, repeatedly ignored our warnings and then proceeded at doing the exact same thing on other threads ─ also by escorting the perpetrators to the door.

    In the event of the tenacity by which misinformation has been promoted, we've simply done our due diligence by pointing out the facts, identifying the misinformation and bringing it to the posters' attention that they were actively promoting misinformation against all better judgment. And that's all there is to it.

    I just wanted to get that out there, for the record.




    P.S.: Yes, the obsession with Donald Trump is running rampant in this neck of the woods, and quite frankly, I find it extremely boring, as well as bordering on pathology.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Thanks Aragorn. Also, just for the record... of all the forums I have joined and participated, in all honesty, I found this one (including as it evolved) to be the best with regards to my sense that I could post pretty much what I wanted to (always being mindful of my wording).

    But also, and why I "came back" to a (this) forum is because of the overall sense of fondness for the folks there (here) - some gone but not forgotten. And so this is the forum I felt that feeling the most and, thanks to a suggestion from another... I came back to TOT.

    But I apologize now as I realize I have gone completely off subject thus I will search for my last synchronicity thread and pick the ball back up there.

    One last comment - I respect and appreciate the ad hominem rule. That is a well founded rule IMO.
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    Was lovely to see your post yesterday Sam, welcome back.

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    People in the media keep saying no one will read it, and yet I keep hearing people talking about reading it.

    Here it is being presented in a series of tweets.

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    People in the media keep saying no one will read it, and yet I keep hearing people talking about reading it.

    Well, I read it cover to cover and came away with only one impression: Vincent 'the chin' Gigante.
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    Trey Gowdy does tend to be a straight shooter but he's a hard partisan and a dick. He's playing partisan naturally on Fox News... He doesn't say exculpatory, the talking head does and then he follows it up.

    We'll see. Let's make everyone happy...prove that it was all fraudulent and then throw Trump in prison for all his crimes. That wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. Talking head seems to smile as Gowdy talks about the 'cheat'. Empty head...
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    Look at the set of his mouth...classic I'm a dick countenance.
    "We are one thought away from changing the world!"

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