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    Mueller Report

    I thought I would start a thread treating Aragorn's favorite subject: American Politics.

    Well, the report is out and there is a 'very small chance' I might have called this one incorrectly...I figured Fred would be all over it. Like Trump, Fred is showing remarkable restraint

    My opinion is that report will, to use a polite euphemism, cause "a shit show". Personally, I'm prepared to admit they didn't have the goods on Trump and call it a day. Trump is still a scumbag by any measure in my books, but, I won't be going to any Beto O'Rourke rallies and joining the chant of 'lock him up!".

    It ain't over yet, despite the cries that the 'Fat Lady has sung". As Sam Donaldson said, 'She might have sung, but she sang a funeral dirge", for Trump. I do hope if there is no true reason to suspect Trump of collusion or obstruction of justice that the left just let it go. Mueller has done his job as charged.

    I'll be satisfied to see his criminal indictments after he leaves office...
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    We're only going to know what Barr and Congress decide to allow to be released from the report. Much was/still is sealed and there are cases possibly filed which we don't know about yet.

    Mueller's act of filing 'speaking indictments' was a smart one for the purposes of allowing people to know a good deal about what's been going on. None of Mueller's indictments were denied.

    We will see a lot of theatrics and claims. If we were all critical thinkers there wouldn't be a problem. But as so many of us are reactionary and side-taking, we will have drama.

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    yeah, I'm with ya'
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    I thought I would start a thread treating Aragorn's favorite subject: American Politics.

    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    rofl...
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    I do hope if there is no true reason to suspect Trump of collusion or obstruction of justice that the left just let it go.
    Now THAT, will be the interesting thing to watch after nearly 2 years of this Russia Russia Russia nonsense. If the Rachel Maddow types of CNN, MSNBC, and a good deal of the rest of the msm are NOT able to let it go, they may just be digging their own graves by paving the way for a 4 year extension of their worst nightmare...

    If the Left were smart, they would understand that the only way to eject Captain Chaos is through what the independent media is doing: Narrowing down, and being honest about the vast problems and corruption in their OWN party, addressing them, and speaking to the issues of the day on the battlefield of ideas.

    If they were smart they would take their cue from a shining example like Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii. Now that there is the real deal, which is why it will likely never happen.
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    Thinking

    Yeah sure Fred ...


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    Actually Fred, whether your statement is a reality, the substance is certainly true...Stop pointing fingers, grow up, and kick that jackass out of office, if not out of the country.
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    Even though the Russia collusion thing was a hoax, Trump is still an incompetencent clown who is polarizing the country.

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    not a hoax by any stretch, just not provable...
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    Incredible indeed, the mostly 24 hour neg narrative by weres towards QT ( Q and Trump but cutee also lol ) gobbled ?, or not.

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    Russia's all up in Trump's stuff. The reason he keeps talking about collusion is that it's vague and not really a crime unless it's strongly linked to conspiracy. It's a distraction from what he has been up to.

    Trump needed Russian money and Jared needed Saudi money. They're beholden to both regardless of the outcome of Mueller's report. And they care about themselves before the country.

    So either way we're screwed.

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    Or both ways n any third may be perfect. uranium one has not been used to my surprise as this could easy cause narrative change for the better , or not.

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    The title to this latest installment of "Hate Inc." by Matt Taibbi is perfect IMO. The content could also just as easily been laid out as yet another example of ways we are divided in my "Lines Have Been Drawn" thread, but with Mueller being a central character it was more appropriate to post it here.

    I think he is being overly optimistic in his summation below, but as one of the very few true journalists still out there, can't say I blame him for at least holding out a little bit of hope:

    As a purely journalistic failure, however, WMD was a pimple compared to Russiagate. The sheer scale of the errors and exaggerations this time around dwarfs the last mess. Worse, it’s led to most journalists accepting a radical change in mission. We’ve become sides-choosers, obliterating the concept of the press as an independent institution whose primary role is sorting fact and fiction.

    We had the sense to eventually look inward a little in the WMD affair, which is the only reason we escaped that episode with any audience left. Is the press even capable of that kind of self-awareness now? WMD damaged our reputation. If we don’t turn things around, this story will destroy it.
    https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russia...imes-a-million
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    For now, if you want to know what Mueller found, look at the speaking indictments filed in court. That's where he tells the story.

    Barr and the politicians will spit in our faces with the spin.

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