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    Quote Originally posted by tarka the duck View Post
    Hi Christopher

    It's not often that Brits show such a level of interest in world of US politics, and I'm interested to know more about your fascination with that arena.
    Mind you, I'm making the assumption that you're a Brit ... maybe you're not
    His IP address does put him in the UK, but I strongly suspect that he'd rather live in the USA. He's a huge fan of capitalism and he thinks El Donaldo the Banana Republican™ is a genius.

    Quote Originally posted by tarka the duck View Post
    Could you clarify something for me? Are you making the claim that National Socialism was a left wing ideology?
    I cannot speak for him, but I wouldn't be surprised if that were to turn out his opinion. He is strongly pro-capitalism and anti-socialism.

    I have seen socialism and national-socialism being equated by right-wing bigots before. This all ties in with unbridled and unregulated capitalism, which leads to corporatism, and thus to the same kind of crypto-fascism as has been ruling the United States of America for many decades already. Because equating socialism proper with national-socialism paves the way for the vilification of socialism through the claim that Hitler wasn't really a fascist but a socialist, which in turn then paves the way for the promotion and public acceptance of fascism. See how that works?

    The ultra-right-wingers have already long been tooting that horn, and they are too brainwashed to accept the truth and see through the indoctrination. Not too long ago, there was a thread over at Project Avalon, started by former Project Avalon moderator Dennis Leahy. In said thread, Dennis was inquiring among the Project Avalon members what they believed socialism was. Although some of the people who posted to that thread were not US Americans, the degree of prejudice, knee-jerking and indoctrination against socialism was simply astounding, to say the very least.

    Christopher has already laid his own prejudices out on the table in his replies to this thread at our sister forum Eye-Rise. He even made the statement that the Biblical Yeshua was a capitalist.

    Say no more.




    Quote Originally posted by Christopher View Post
    Oh dear . What a horrible mess , PAL .
    Apart from the fact that everything you mention is totally known and 'old hat' , let's move to the the real world .

    The key initial figures , which might have been three , are likely millionaire ex hedge fund owners .
    And their experience was and remains their key motivation for setting up the most successful daily on- line commentary on world events with a clear emphasis on economic and financial issues .
    They had watched and experienced in full detail the way the Establishment manipulates markets --- and still does -- .and vowed to become Whistleblowers .Very quickly they became feared by the Intel agencies and their main puppets Bloomberg and WSJ , which whined and screamed like stuck pigs .
    That would fall under the "conspiratorial" denomination, wouldn't it?

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    And that's your problem PAL , you have not the remotest idea what you are talking about --- effectively either regurgitating Wiki and / or effectively quoting Copy and Paste jobs from those whose task it is to spread disinformation and invent misinformation .
    Yep, that's conspiratorial alright.

    Quote Originally posted by Christopher View Post
    ZH near decimated Bloomberg and later as ZH moved into political commentary they made it instantly obvious how third rate and dishonest WSJ is in so many areas --- now rated along with sources like Wa Po and CNN as utterly Fake and totally under the control of the Intel Agencies .
    Hyperbole and conspiratorial.

    Quote Originally posted by Christopher View Post
    But people like you think Wiki is sacrosanct .
    Anybody can edit those pages . And they do . All the time .
    Not everything at Wikipedia is correct, and it is well-known that there have been attempts to suppress information at Wikipedia, as well as to insert pro-American propaganda by the US military ─ specifically during the invasion of Iraq. But just as with Open Source Software, "there are more eyes to spot the bugs". Given that Wikipedia attempts to be a neutral and democratic platform ─ albeit that it's conservative on account of disputed issues such as UFOs ─ misinformation and propaganda are quickly weeded out, and the suppression of information by certain individuals in the pertinent committees is also being fought.

    So, when it comes to the validity of information, then Wikipedia is of much higher standing and integrity than the alt-right op-eds you quote ─ oh, excuse me, you seem to prefer the word "regurgitate" ─ from Zero Hedge and similar right-wing sources.

    Quote Originally posted by Christopher View Post
    It is clear from the way that you approached this matter , PAL , that you have no working knowledge or experience of ZH or market dealing .
    Market dealing has nothing to do with what has been discussed here, Christopher.

    Quote Originally posted by Christopher View Post
    You have just run to Wiki and equivalents imagining that you are receiving facts and the Truth .
    Just like you have run to Zero Hedge and equivalents, imagining that what you are regurgitating here are the facts and the truth?

    Quote Originally posted by Christopher View Post
    Not good enough , PAL .
    Research is done over years and not in 10 minutes . Aragorn is guilty of the same but it was more expected given his now famous comment that he knows lots about Farrell's work despite never having read a single book of his .
    You, Sir, are a bigot. As I said before, your precious Joseph Farrell is a historian, not a physicist, nor a political scholar, and I have already caught him being grossly wrong about certain things, whereby he was displaying his own indoctrination. He's also mostly speculating ─ including dowsing ─ and as such, he continues feeding the knee-jerk conspiracy theorists with his Nefarium updates. He also holds lectures and he's got loads of videos on YouTube. I don't have to have read any of his friggin' books to know either what he's talking about or what his own positions are.

    Lastly, the fact that I have not read any of Joseph Farrell's books is not germane to this discussion. Try sticking to the subject, will you?

    Quote Originally posted by Christopher View Post
    Come on chaps .
    If you want to be effective , at least get to search out the truth .
    I can say the same thing to you, Christopher. Your prejudices, your paranoia, your loyalty to alt-right op-eds, your obsession with Joseph Farrell and your humongous ego are blinding you from the truth. You are so absorbed by your right-wing ideologies, your puerile idolatry and, above all, by yourself that you wouldn't even recognize the truth if it bit you in the buttocks.

    And you know what? It already has, on more than one occasion now since you've joined up, both here and at Eye-Rise.

    Quote Originally posted by Christopher View Post
    Your Posts are like those we see daily on that fabulous site , Before It's News .
    Great fun but drivel and dribble .
    Physician, heal thyself. You are a real-life embodiment of the emperor with the "invisible" clothes. You're not the only one, though. Maybe that's why you don't recognize the fact that you're naked.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Biblical Yeshua was a capitalist...How confused...Apparently much was lost between the translation from Eastern to Western philosophical thought. When that happens, one ends up in a 'netherland' that has forsaken goodness for expedience...It is a tragedy and common pitfall for those that have no moral underpinning by either choice or childhood trauma...possibly, even likely. in some cases...it is those 'dual' tragedies that are speaking loudly and clearly.
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    I have commented before on your high level of anger and spite but to little avail apparently .
    And you utterly failed to answer my question, Christopher. Why don't you just address the issue or criticism at hand rather than point fingers at people and talk about what you think their emotions are?

    You know who else makes personal attacks rather than discuss issues? Professional skeptic, Michael Shermer. He often has no arguments beyond attacking the person he disagrees with. And he has little credibility because of it.

    It's not genius to get personal, in case you didn't know.

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    And if the blatant depravity of Trump hadn't finally given the clueless a heads up, he might have succeeded.
    This is the wondrous irony of it all.

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    Capitalism is becoming a religion over here.

    The fool who courted the right-wing and created the Christian Coalition is going to have a lot to answer for.

    The conjunction of prosperity doctrine with the religification of politics is a dangerous brew.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    His IP address does put him in the UK, but I strongly suspect that he'd rather live in the USA. He's a huge fan of capitalism and he thinks El Donaldo the Banana Republican™ is a genius.

    .

    See you are sticking your chin out again and never getting one guess right .
    You and PAL make a great double act and I guess you two are the main reason I resort here occasionally .
    I like to know both my enemies and opposition and , for example , I can still tune in to sites like the abysmal Godlike Productions which is at least several hundred times busier and more varied .
    I can see absolutely no difference between that site and this . None at all . You just lie at the opposite ends of the spectrum and both are fuelled by blind prejudice and very weak education standards .imho

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    you wouldn't recognize an educational standard if it poked you in that all-seeing eyeball of yours.
    "We are one thought away from changing the world!"

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    Quote Originally posted by Christopher View Post
    See you are sticking your chin out again and never getting one guess right .
    I don't have to guess at anything, Christopher. You've said it all yourself in this post at Eye-Rise.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Man, I haven't been to Godlike Productions in many moons. Years ago there were all kinds of posters who used foul language and attacked others. I imagine it's only gotten worse. I stopped going once they required me to register.

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