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    I quite like Ramzpaul's satirical take on the migrant caravan and the ensuing border violence. Gotta admit, he does have a point...

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Corporations are doing way more to make things global than migrants. The migrants are the result of activities of war and the businesses related to it.
    Not to leave out the NGOs many of which receive funding from one of the wealthiest people on the planet.... George Soros

    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Turning away migrants is like masking symptoms without dealing with the underlying disease.
    Now, that the war in Syria is coming to a close, many of the migrants are returning home. Many foreign embassies are being rebuilt within that war-torn country. The Deep State has caused a multitude of problems across the planet. The Banksters forcing countries to take on massive debt sets the stage for the criminal controllers to wreak their havoc. The Deep State has had their hands on the Latin American countries for quite some time. Criminal cabal network has grown in size, wealth & influence - paying off public officials.

    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    The disease isn't people being forced together. The disease is the destruction of the places where these people were living. Destruction by what has been known as the military industrial complex.
    Hence, the war between Trump & the Deep State.
    The Deep State is on the run. And with that, world peace is presently on the rise.
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    Recent Trump tweets...



    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Migrants at the Southern Border will not be allowed into the United States until their claims are individually approved in court. We only will allow those who come into our Country legally. Other than that our very strong policy is Catch and Detain. No “Releasing” into the U.S...

    3:49 PM - 24 Nov 2018


    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    ....All will stay in Mexico. If for any reason it becomes necessary, we will CLOSE our Southern Border. There is no way that the United States will, after decades of abuse, put up with this costly and dangerous situation anymore!

    3:56 PM - 24 Nov 2018


    Donald J. Trump
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    Would be very SMART if Mexico would stop the Caravans long before they get to our Southern Border, or if originating countries would not let them form (it is a way they get certain people out of their country and dump in U.S. No longer). Dems created this problem. No crossings!

    5:28 AM - 25 Nov 2018


    Donald J. Trump
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    .@60Minutes did a phony story about child separation when they know we had the exact same policy as the Obama Administration. In fact a picture of children in jails was used by other Fake Media to show how bad (cruel) we are, but it was in 2014 during O years. Obama separated....

    5:59 PM - 25 Nov 2018


    Donald J. Trump
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    ....children from parents, as did Bush etc., because that is the policy and law. I tried to keep them together but the problem is, when you do that, vast numbers of additional people storm the Border. So with Obama seperation is fine, but with Trump it’s not. Fake 60 Minutes!

    6:07 PM - 25 Nov 2018


    Donald J. Trump
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    Mexico should move the flag waving Migrants, many of whom are stone cold criminals, back to their countries. Do it by plane, do it by bus, do it anyway you want, but they are NOT coming into the U.S.A. We will close the Border permanently if need be. Congress, fund the WALL!

    3:19 AM - 26 Nov 2018


    Donald J. Trump
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    Mexico should move the flag waving Migrants, many of whom are stone cold criminals, back to their countries. Do it by plane, do it by bus, do it anyway you want, but they are NOT coming into the U.S.A. We will close the Border permanently if need be. Congress, fund the WALL!

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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    I quite like Ramzpaul's satirical take on the migrant caravan and the ensuing border violence. Gotta admit, he does have a point...

    He has no point...He obviously has no insight into the history of the Americas. There is very little of it that is humorous...Hundreds of years of exploitation is not a 'funny' thing.
    “El revolucionario: te meteré la bota en el culo"
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    From November, 2013....

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...story,amp.html

    Sounds exactly like what happened this past weekend.
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    Spent the day reading migration, Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030. Agenda 2030 is Agenda 21 on steroids!

    From Migration in the 2030 agenda, found here: http://publications.iom.int/system/f...030_agenda.pdf

    Gabrielle Sheffer defines a diaspora as

    A social-political formation, created as the result of either forced or voluntary migration, whose members regard themselves as of the same ethno-national origin and who permanently reside as minorities in one or several host countries. Members of such entities maintain regular or occasional contacts with what they regard as their homelands and with individuals and groups of the same background residing in other host countries.
    You can read Agenda 21 for yourself here: https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or...s/Agenda21.pdf

    Agenda 2030 here: https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or....php?menu=2361

    And any other documents you may be interested in here: https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or...rces/documents

    I also found the Global Compact for Migration (which Trump has already backed out from, thankfully) here:
    https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/site..._migration.pdf

    They are all from the UN.

    When I was young and stupid, I worked in government. I know when they only state goals and not the means to achieve those goals that they are hiding something...something the people would tar and feather them should they find out what they are really up to and what the people would have to give up.

    The point of it all is to ultimately eliminate countries (no more borders) and put everything under global control. The final will probably be labeled Agenda 2040...
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    Recent Q drop...

    Q Post #2502....

    POTUS Has the Authority to Secure the Border Due to National Security Threat
    2502
    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 25 Nov 2018 - 9:37:32 PM

    Border Security = National Security.
    FY 2019 Defense Spending Bill
    https://dod.defense.gov/News/Special...udget2019.aspx
    >>Budget Overview
    Budget Reconciliation
    https://www.countable.us/bills/hr7073-115
    What if the House fails prior to majority change?
    What vested auth does the Constitution grant a sitting President re: matters of NAT SEC?
    Thank you, Mr. Soros.
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    DHS Secretary Issues Statement, Correcting False Media Accounts at Southern U.S. Border…
    Posted on November 26, 2018
    by sundance

    Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen provided the following statement regarding the recent crisis on our southern border.



    “Given the activities of the last 24 hours at the San Ysidro Port of Entry, I want to provide an update on what occurred and attempt to dispel many of the rumors and much of the misinformation circulating.

    “First, the violence we saw at the border was entirely predictable. This caravan, unlike previous caravans, had already entered #Mexico violently and attacked border police in two other countries. I refuse to believe that anyone honestly maintains that attacking law enforcement with rocks and projectiles is acceptable. It is shocking that I have to explain this, but officers can be seriously or fatally injured in such attacks. Self-defense isn’t debatable for most law-abiding Americans.



    “Second, the caravan is far larger and more organized than previous ones. There are 8,500 caravan members in Tijuana and Mexicali. There are reports of additional caravans on their way.

    “Third, the overwhelming majority of these individuals are not eligible for asylum in the United States under our laws. Historically, less than 10% of those who claim asylum from #Guatemala, #Honduras, and #ElSalvador are found eligible by a federal judge. 90% are not eligible. Most of these migrants are seeking jobs or to join family who are already in the U.S. They have all refused multiple opportunities to seek protection in Mexico or with the UNHCR, the UN Refugee Agency. Seeking employment or family reunification are not grounds for asylum under our laws, or any international obligation. There are, however, legal ways to seek a job or to be reunited in the U.S.

    “Fourth, the caravan members are predominately male. It appears in some cases that the limited number of women and children in the caravan are being used by the organizers as “human shields” when they confront law enforcement. They are being put at risk by the caravan organizers as we saw at the Mexico-Guatemala border. This is putting vulnerable people in harms way.

    “Fifth, we cannot confirm the backgrounds and identities of all caravan members which possess a national security and public safety risk to our country. However, at this point we have confirmed that there are over 600 convicted criminals traveling with the caravan flow. This includes individuals known to law enforcement for assault, battery, drug crimes, burglary, rape, child abuse and more. This is serious. Additionally, Mexico has already arrested 100 caravan members for criminal violations in Mexico.



    “Sixth, our Border Patrol agents and officers responded admirably and responsibly to the events on Sunday. It is a testament to their training and professionalism that no one was injured. The accepted use of nonlethal force (also used by the Obama Administration in 2013) prevented further injury to agents and a mass illegal rush across the border. We will not shy away from protecting our people. I ask parents to avoid violent caravan groups and refrain from attempts to illegally enter our country – these acts will put your children in danger.

    “Seventh, I want to thank President Donald J. Trump again for the decision to send @DeptofDefense to the border to bolster our ports of entry and provide force protection for Customs and Border Protection. This decision likely prevented injuries to personnel and migrants or additional damage to property. Instead of “a political stunt,” as suggested by some, this was in fact the act of a leader concerned about the rule of law.

    “Eighth, this Administration has been working nonstop to fix our immigration system to address the crisis at the border. We have proposed legislation and asked Congress to pass it. The President has repeatedly made clear what is needed to secure our border and negotiated in good faith. It is time for Congress to do its job. Absent Congressional action courts have misinterpreted existing laws and have made the job of law enforcement far more difficult. But the men and women of DHS will continue to do all we can to enforce the law and DHS and U.S. Department of State will continue negotiations with Mexico and our other partners in the region. We are optimistic that cross border collaboration can help make America, indeed the entire region, more secure.

    “Finally, this Administration warned about the danger of the caravan. We predicted the violence we saw on Sunday. We prepared to address it with additional personnel and DOD deployments. We will continue to prepare for the next assault while looking for lasting solutions with Congress and our Mexican partners. As always, I want to thank those officers and agents in San Ysidro who, under tremendous strain, used professionalism and restraint to ensure that no one was injured as they were attacked themselves. I also thank DOD and our state & local law enforcement who were on scene to support our people.”

    ~ Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen


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    MSNBC Accidentally Airs Ground Report Showing
    Vast Majority of Caravan are Military Aged Males…

    (Nov 26, 2018)

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT0aMubKdAI

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    MSNBC’s Gadi Schwartz refutes the media narrative by reporting from the ground in Mexico that the majority of people in the migrant caravan are not women and children, but rather men who are not seeking asylum.
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    Recent Praying Medic post...


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    27) The constitution authorizes the President to use the military and its resources to mitigate threats to National Security. By flooding the southern border with migrants, the President's enemies have helped his case for building the wall.

    Thanks, [GS]
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    Fake News...
    This photo has gone viral... link

    Hoaxed: The ‘Illegal Alien Mom with Barefoot Kids’ Photo was a Setup – Another Staged #FakeNews Production




    • The illegal alien mother ‘fleeing’ from the border wall was all a lie. It was a setup.
    • After further review, yesterday’s ‘horrific’ picture of a woman with barefoot children running from the US border wall was a hoax.
    • In the background of the picture a group of men are posing for one camera man and another is running towards another camera man.
    • In other areas, people are just standing around.
    • The woman with the children was just a photo-op:


    View image on Twitter
    • The high resolution picture shows guys in the background posing for a cameraman

    Source: thegatewaypundit.com
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    Quote Originally posted by Melidae View Post
    Spent the day reading migration, Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030. Agenda 2030 is Agenda 21 on steroids!

    From Migration in the 2030 agenda, found here: http://publications.iom.int/system/f...030_agenda.pdf



    You can read Agenda 21 for yourself here: https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or...s/Agenda21.pdf

    Agenda 2030 here: https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or....php?menu=2361

    And any other documents you may be interested in here: https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or...rces/documents

    I also found the Global Compact for Migration (which Trump has already backed out from, thankfully) here:
    https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/site..._migration.pdf

    They are all from the UN.


    When I was young and stupid, I worked in government. I know when they only state goals and not the means to achieve those goals that they are hiding something...something the people would tar and feather them should they find out what they are really up to and what the people would have to give up.

    The point of it all is to ultimately eliminate countries (no more borders) and put everything under global control. The final will probably be labeled Agenda 2040...
    The Terrible Truth About the UN Migration Compact
    (Nov 16, 2018)

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WRszRZBfYw

    Description:

    In December 2018, world leaders gather to sign the UN Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration - a disaster for Western countries which virtually eliminates property rights and free speech, enshrining the right for everyone to enter Western countries and live off the taxpayer.

    Global Compact
    The Global Compact for Migration is the first-ever UN global agreement on a common approach to international migration in all its dimensions. The global compact is non-legally binding. It is grounded in values of state sovereignty, responsibility-sharing, non-discrimination, and human rights, and recognizes that a cooperative approach is needed to optimize the overall benefits of migration, while addressing its risks and challenges for individuals and communities in countries of origin, transit and destination.

    The global compact comprises 23 objectives for better managing migration at local, national, regional and global levels. The compact:

    • aims to mitigate the adverse drivers and structural factors that hinder people from building and maintaining sustainable livelihoods in their countries of origin;

    • intends to reduce the risks and vulnerabilities migrants face at different stages of migration by respecting, protecting and fulfilling their human rights and providing them with care and assistance;

    • seeks to address the legitimate concerns of states and communities, while recognizing that societies are undergoing demographic, economic, social and environmental changes at different scales that may have implications for and result from migration;

    • strives to create conducive conditions that enable all migrants to enrich our societies through their human, economic and social capacities, and thus facilitate their contributions to sustainable development at the local, national, regional and global levels...
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    Thankfulllly people are waked and woken to this moreso atm, love your detective work Melidae


    Quote Originally posted by turiya View Post
    This photo has gone viral... link

    Hoaxed: The ‘Illegal Alien Mom with Barefoot Kids’ Photo was a Setup – Another Staged #FakeNews Production




    • The illegal alien mother ‘fleeing’ from the border wall was all a lie. It was a setup.
    • After further review, yesterday’s ‘horrific’ picture of a woman with barefoot children running from the US border wall was a hoax.
    • In the background of the picture a group of men are posing for one camera man and another is running towards another camera man.
    • In other areas, people are just standing around.
    • The woman with the children was just a photo-op:


    View image on Twitter
    • The high resolution picture shows guys in the background posing for a cameraman

    Source: thegatewaypundit.com
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    I don't really intend to make it a full time job trying to prove all the things that need proven. As some point, God given common sense has to enter into the prescription. I don't prescribe...I stick to subscribing.

    There is a lot more to this story...It is up to each and every one of us to be responsible for the health and state of our brains...I would suggest a little more brain food in the diet.

    Photographer reveals story behind iconic image of fleeing migrants at Mexico border
    Kim Kyung-Hoon said he heard crying and started shooting.

    A migrant family runs away from tear gas near the border wall in Tijuana, Mexico, on Nov. 25, 2018.
    Maria Mesa and her twin daughters run away from tear gas near the border wall in Tijuana, Mexico, on Sunday. Kim Kyung-Hoon / Reuters
    Nov. 26, 2018 / 7:13 PM CST / Updated Nov. 27, 2018 / 7:17 AM CST


    By Gabe Gutierrez and Corky Siemaszko
    TIJUANA, Mexico — It’s the image from the unfolding crisis in Tijuana seen around the world: a migrant mom and her young children running away from a smoking tear gas canister with barbed wire and a forbidding metal wall in the background.

    Both children are clad only in T-shirts, and one appears to be wearing a pull-up diaper. One child is barefoot, another wears flip-flops.

    The woman clutching their arms and dragging them out of harm's way is wearing black leggings and a T-shirt emblazoned with the smiling cartoon faces of the Anna and Elsa from the Disney movie "Frozen."

    That jarring portrait was captured on camera Sunday by veteran Reuters photographer Kim Kyung-Hoon moments after a group of Central American migrants approached the border crossing into San Diego and were forced backwards by tear gas canisters hurled by U.S. border agents.

    "When the tear gas started, some people were screaming and everybody started running away,” Kim told NBC News on Monday. "I saw the woman and two children running away. One girl was barefoot from the beginning. The other was wearing beach sandals and lost them in the chaos."

    NBC News also tracked down the woman, Maria Mesa, a 39-year-old mother of five from Honduras, inside a tent at the Benito Juarez Shelter in Tijuana.

    "I grabbed my children and ran," Mesa said of her 5-year-old twin daughters Saira and Sheilly.

    Mesa said her 3-year-old son James, who does not appear in the picture, was also with them and fainted after getting a lung-full of gas.

    "One of them could have died," she said.

    Kim said Mesa "was travelling with five children."

    "Their father lives in Louisiana and they are trying to reach him," he said.

    Kim's photograph, which appeared on the NBC News website and on the front pages of numerous newspapers, provoked worldwide outrage and appeared to make a lie of President Donald Trump’s claim that the caravans were an invading force of "criminals" and "gang members."

    But Trump defended tear-gassing the migrants, calling them "some very tough people."
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    Then why was that picture photoshopped?

    Check out of little girl and her shadow...
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