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    Because its never actually about the issue at hand. It’s like pro life rednecks. They don’t actually care about protecting unborn babies, it’s all about controlling women’s bodies.

    Abuse of power crimes like rape and paedophilia are often the result of repression particularly the escalation of repressed desire. Among the upper and middle classes, it’s far more likely that right wing people will commit such crimes. It’s just projection.

    It’s the opposite in the lower classes and amongst people of colour for the opposite reason. Lack of power leads to them literally attacking their own.
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    Quote Originally posted by Justjane View Post
    Because its never actually about the issue at hand. It’s like pro life rednecks. They don’t actually care about protecting unborn babies, it’s all about controlling women’s bodies.
    It is also highly ironic that all of those pro-life rednecks are usually also very pro-death-penalty. Not very consistent, are they?
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    Quote Originally posted by Justjane View Post
    Because its never actually about the issue at hand. It’s like pro life rednecks. They don’t actually care about protecting unborn babies, it’s all about controlling women’s bodies.

    Abuse of power crimes like rape and paedophilia are often the result of repression particularly the escalation of repressed desire. Among the upper and middle classes, it’s far more likely that right wing people will commit such crimes. It’s just projection.

    It’s the opposite in the lower classes and amongst people of colour for the opposite reason. Lack of power leads to them literally attacking their own.
    And the Q crowd, those so obsessed with vulnerable children are okay when Trump sticks the brown ones in cages. F*** them! Maybe, just maybe they don't give a darn about kids....period.
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    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post
    And the Q crowd, those so obsessed with vulnerable children are okay when Trump sticks the brown ones in cages. F*** them! Maybe, just maybe they don't give a darn about kids....period.
    I imagine a solid defense (from the lawyers) might go something like this ...

    'Forgive them for they know not what they do'
    Presenting an alternative to the alternative community.
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    Well planned take down, ongoing, enjoy the movie.
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    The supposed search for pedophilia is a front. They just want to round up all the folks they don't like. All a person has to do is look just below the surface of Qanonsense to see that there is no substance or substantive fight against pedophilia.

    It's a convenient flag to fly around because then they can just yell things like, do you want pedophilia? do you support it?

    It's all a red herring because they do nothing real to stop it. They just want to 'round up the libs'.
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    Too freaking funny.

    Here's the most sane post in the Q-thread on Avalon recently.

    Trump leaves QAnon and the online MAGA world crushed and confused

    The prophecies did not come true. And people are fuming about it.

    The pardons went to Democrats, lobbyists and rappers, with nary a “patriot” among them. The mass arrests of Antifa campaigners never came. The inauguration stage at the Capitol, full of America’s most powerful politicians, was not purged of Satan-worshipping pedophiles under a shower of gunfire. Even the electricity stayed on.

    The moment the clock struck noon on Wednesday, Jan. 20, it was over — and the extreme factions of Trump’s diehard base were left reeling.

    Inauguration Day 2021 was supposed to be a culminating moment for the legion of online conspiracy theorists and extremists who have rallied around the now former president. But the lengthy list of prophecies they’d been told would eventually happen under Trump’s watch never came.

    In the days leading up to Trump’s departure from office, his online followers watched with horror as his pardons that were supposed to go to allies and supporters instead went to people who were inherently swampy: white-collar criminals convicted of tax fraud, family friends, Steve Bannon, even Democrat Kwame Kirkpatrick.

    “So just to recap: Trump will pardon Lil Wayne, Kodak Black, high profile Jewish fraudsters … No pardons for middle class whites who risked their livelihoods by going to ‘war’ for Trump,” fumed a user in a white supremacist channel on Telegram, the encrypted messaging service that has gained thousands of new subscribers since the Jan. 6 Capitol riots.

    Conspiracies flew — out of the mouth of Fox News host Tucker Carlson — that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell had blackmailed Trump out of pardoning Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, further infuriating MAGA hardliners. Trump’s anti-immigrant base, who’d been with him since his initial run for the presidency in 2015, flipped out when he granted amnesty to tens of thousands of Venezuelan migrants.

    “Please vote to convict,” Ann Coulter tweeted to GOP senators.

    And the QAnon community, a group that had desperately hoped Trump had one final ploy to stay in power and fight against the nebulous forces of darkness in Washington, erupted in despair as Joe Biden became president of the United States. It got so bad that one prominent QAnon online forum threatened to ban any users who posted negative content.

    “There's a lot of grief and confusion in Q world over the plan seeming to fizzle out, and feeling as if Q abandoned them,” Mike Rothschild, a disinformation researcher working on a book about QAnon, told POLITICO. “But I think that will very quickly turn into determination to continue down the path they've committed to.”

    Taken together, the reactions across MAGA internet reveal a mosaic of anger, denial and disappointment that the former president let them down in his final days.

    Without their leader to direct next steps, the MAGA coalition — the extremist militants, the hate groups, the conspiracy theorists, and the stans — is starting to turn on itself.

    “The movement is self-driving now,” said Shane Creevy, a disinformation researcher at Kinzen, a data analytics firm that tracks online falsehoods and works with social media companies to counter potential threats. “With Trump gone, the head has been decapitated, but that doesn’t mean this is going away. The big question is what happens next?”

    Since the Jan. 6 riots, which resulted in five deaths and scores of arrests nationwide, more mainstream right-wing influencers like Ben Shapiro and Dan Bongino scaled back their support for potential challenges to the results of the November election. But rather than calming their millions of online followers, the efforts have produced a backlash, with posters calling these high-profile personalities traitors for not fully supporting insurrection.

    Conspicuously missing was any direction from Trump.

    Without his Twitter account, the ability to communicate with his base was muted. The polished videos posted on the White House’s official Twitter account were greeted with suspicion. But in the build up to Inauguration Day, Trump supporters, QAnon acolytes and extremist militias still, at a minimum, held out hope that the outgoing president would stick it to the establishment on the way out the door.

    On encrypted message boards and digital apps, followers labeled Jan. 19 as “national popcorn day” in the hopes that they would have a front-row seat to the mass arrests of Antifa campaigners and, possibly, Trump imposing martial law in an effort to turn the election.

    As the hours ticked closer to Biden’s swearing in, the online chatter became more tense, with different online users questioning the loyalty of others, while increasingly getting desperate that “The Storm,” or the violent overthrow of deepstate agents, would never materialize.

    In white supremacist Telegram channels—some of which have tens of thousands of followers—the anger soon spilled over into outright hatred toward Trump, as well as a call-to-arms to the outgoing president’s more mainstream followers that they had been misled.

    “Let this be a wake-up call for QAnon followers and normies,” one post read just ahead of the inauguration. “No one is coming to save you. No one man can defeat this evil marxist machine.”

    Amid accusations and counter-accusations, different parts of Trump’s base began to turn on each other. QAnon supporters lashed out at militia groups, claiming they were part of the deep-state plot to undermine Trump and that the Jan. 6 riots on Capitol Hill were part of an elaborate coup attempt, either by parts of the federal government, Black Lives Matter campaigners or, bizarrely, China. They even turned against certain QAnon celebrities — Lin Wood, Sidney Powell and Michael Flynn — for hyping them up.

    Elsewhere, mainstream MAGA voters ridiculed QAnon groups’ unbending belief that Trump was the savior — even as he boarded Air Force One for the last time on his departure from the White House.

    “It's all been a con from the start. Promises made and not kept,” one user posted on TheDonald.win, a website that has been flooded with conspiracy theories and calls for violence in recent weeks, in reference to the QAnon movement. “You sat on your butt waiting for someone else to do what everyone should have taken care of themselves.”

    Several members of the QAnon community scrambled to suggest that Biden was now going to execute the conspiracy theory’s underlying beliefs, or even that the incoming president had switched faces with Donald Trump. But in a sign that Trump’s reign was truly over, former 8kun administrator Ron Watkins, one of the only people who allegedly knew the identity of the mysterious Q, published a post on Telegram surrendering to the inevitable.

    “We have a new president sworn in and it’s our responsibility as citizens to respect the Constitution regardless of whether or not we agree with the specific details regarding officials who are sworn in,” Watkins wrote.
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    I've heard many Qanon folks are now turning against or at least away from Trump, calling him cuck and such things.

    My friend's girlfriend, who warned him about impending martial law to keep Trump in office, left him on inauguration day and went back to her old boyfriend who beats her. My friend had helped her to get away from this man.

    It looks like it's more important to her to stay in her bubble with a beater than to come out of it. Very sad.

    “Please vote to convict,” Ann Coulter tweeted to GOP senators.
    Didn't know that. Lol.

    Boy that derangement syndrome is a bitch, ain't it?

    I heard about the 'Face Off' thing. Isn't that the plot from the movie with Cage and Travolta?

    I hope Watkins doesn't get targeted for his common sense words.

    I just get labelled. He could get real threats.
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    Pardon my inappropriate post: Those people are a bunch of clueless douchebags ... they are a part of our everyday lives ... we can only isolate them from sane society ... somehow ... they are a danger to themselves and especially us. Since Biden is now president perhaps he will institute a system of re-education camps for the hopelessly hopeful. Earth II would be nice but maybe the Phantom Zone would be more practical and within reach of our technological level.
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    Today I saw footage of someone I would definitely call a d.b. I watched Jordan Klepper from the Daily Show interviewing folks at the demonstration on the sixth. As he and his camera crew were walking and talking with folks one dude crouched down right behind the camera guy, tripped him, and then claimed the camera guy knocked him down. Problem is, another camera caught the fiasco. The crouching dude, who was wearing cammo and a backpack walked away after whining about his fake fall.

    Now that's a d.b.

    Jordan said to one of the folks in cammo, "Have fun playing paintball!" Lol.
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    Tucker Carlson is next:

    “El revolucionario: te meteré la bota en el culo"
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    If only he'd literally walk into it instead of hiding behind his chair. Easy to talk smack when you're so insulated.
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    Surprise surprise, we now want to talk about Q etc, great stuff fellow members and friends, be nice to be able to converse on the Trump thread or other ones that i been banned from but nevertheless-on, lets talk Q etc and Trump, all the fear mongering of he will never leave office etc etc and create huge plus many wars etc, plus gather white supremists to take down the country etc plus a few other fear edible goodies, did not happen, oh one ponders, was it a distraction lol. The future will show, well maybe your dear pedo joe n friends will show and likely in short time, why wars are good for all, paris accord good for all, open borders good for all, Obama's cages still good for all, TTPA and it's other guises are good for all, no Trumpy to blame now, Now that pedo joe is boss of the free world we can call him as one/i/we wish ( just as many did with Trumpy ), so pedo joe saved you from Trumpy, your child sniffing friend is going to be the best part of the movie.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Surprise surprise, we now want to talk about Q etc, great stuff fellow members and friends, be nice to be able to converse on the Trump thread or other ones that i been banned from but nevertheless-on,
    There was never any prohibition with regard to talking about Q, Vern ─ I have done it myself on several occasions. There was however a prohibition with regard to posting Q propaganda, which is what you have been doing. And the fact that you cannot see the difference between those two things is telling it all.

    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    lets talk Q etc and Trump, all the fear mongering of he will never leave office etc etc and create huge plus many wars etc, plus gather white supremists to take down the country etc plus a few other fear edible goodies, did not happen, oh one ponders, was it a distraction lol.
    It came close enough to that, and the storming of the Capitol ─ with five confirmed deaths and well over 50 people severely injured ─ was definitely a consequence of Trump's refusal to acknowledge his electoral defeat. He even refused to show up at his successor's inauguration, something which no other president before him had ever done.

    Your orange hero also left his country on the brink of civil war, and as I wrote elsewhere already, Joe Biden is not going to be able to undo that damage again even if he wins a second term in 2024. Only someone like Marianne Williamson would have been able to pull that off, provided that she herself would be getting two full terms, but unfortunately the Democrats never gave Marianne a fair chance, and by 2028 she'll already be too old to still take and hold office for eight years ─ if she's even still alive by then.

    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    The future will show, well maybe your dear pedo joe n friends will show and likely in short time, why wars are good for all, paris accord good for all, open borders good for all, Obama's cages still good for all, TTPA and it's other guises are good for all, no Trumpy to blame now, Now that pedo joe is boss of the free world we can call him as one/i/we wish ( just as many did with Trumpy ), so pedo joe saved you from Trumpy, your child sniffing friend is going to be the best part of the movie.
    I have asked you for evidence before that Joe Biden would be a pedophile, and you couldn't provide it. And yet you still keep on calling him that, because your orange hero lost the elections and had to return to the land of unicorns that fart rainbows, where all the Teletubbies are dancing happily over living in a military dictatorship with tribunals that convict and guillotine people for not having a Caucasian ethnicity.

    As the saying goes, either put up or shut up.





    P.S.: I've deleted the duplicate on the "OMG" thread of the post I'm replying to here, and I've closed that thread. Apparently you cannot tell the difference between having a discussion and posting propaganda, but you certainly do know how to push propaganda by way of a multiple-vector assault, I'll give you that.
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    From research pedo joe has been called creepy joe n worse for decades, so the unfounded and no everdance regarding what Trumpy was called etc is okay without proof, yes Aragorn, without proof, but your pedo friend joe, it is not okay.

    No propaganda, as said above pedo joe is now president pedo joe , so just like when Trumpy was president and many here called as they saw fit, so am i, that okay or do you wish to go back and get proof regards what Trumpy was n is still being called without proof. ???!!!???.

    Or you could go all triggered and just hoax, ooopps already done, lock thread or if your real triggered about me doing as you have done and others, then ban me for being eQual.
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