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    A speech for vegetarianism

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-you-ENTITLED


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUTgZ7s_hiw


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    I will stay in my preference meal: matched potatoes.
    But I must eleminate this bit butter, this bit milk, this egg, but not this bit nutmeg powder.
    replace butter by ???
    replace milk by ???
    replace egg by ???

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    Quote Originally posted by scibuster View Post
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-you-ENTITLED
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    I will stay in my preference meal: matched potatoes.
    But I must eleminate this bit butter, this bit milk, this egg, but not this bit nutmeg powder.
    replace butter by ???
    replace milk by ???
    replace egg by ???
    Well...you could replace your butter with coconut oil, your milk with soy milk, almond milk, rice milk or macadamia milk, your egg with No Egg, Egglike or other egg replacers...or use your creative imagination and come up with other alternatives...
    Enjoy your 21st century mashed potatoes

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    I am an O+ blood type and have thrived on a vegetarian diet for over 26 years. Occaissional, very seldom, wild salmon has been on my plate. I eat it totemistically and welcome its DNA with my own and embrace its dynamism. Also, it is a predator fish and that feels right. The doctor who wrote the book on diet and blood types recanted their opinion years ago. But like people who use MSM to vindicate their myopia, many still use a retracted argument to make their case. However, diet is personal, as is the karma for the industry it creates.
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    I could only listen to the first 20 or 30 seconds of that. Far too many emotive words all strung together. I have no idea what she was going to try and support but it just made my skin crawl a little as she was setting off in a manner which by use of all the power words suggested a desire to manipulate the audience.

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    Quote Originally posted by Nothing View Post
    I could only listen to the first 20 or 30 seconds of that. Far too many emotive words all strung together. I have no idea what she was going to try and support but it just made my skin crawl a little as she was setting off in a manner which by use of all the power words suggested a desire to manipulate the audience.

    I did not think to watch it. Scibuster posted it, lol. I just wanted to keep an idea moving if there was any interest in it. Thirty million chickens are "processed" a year in the American South. Processed, a very unemotional word. So much so it masks the horror of the reality. Part of that horror is the toll it takes on the human psyche for people who need a job. It's a bitch to be unskilled but, being one of those chickens is immeasurably worse. Chickens fit into the Creator's plans with far more grace than an assembly line "processing' factory worker.
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    The topic of processing is indeed quite important. The topic of carnivorism v non carnivorism is a devisive one in many circles. The concepts of killing or techniques rather create a fair bit of controversy. Halal principals, or even home killing done with respect and consideration to the animal is at least a start. I believe factory processing creates toxic meat. And as you allude to, affects those actually doing the killing. Many carnivores, I am guessing, don't really think about the meat they eat and how the abattoir is not much different to a death camp. If intent is important in so much, it is the mindless careless heartless thoughtless state of day to day killing condoned silence that makes that industry into a group effort of horror, and becomes a huge dark mark on humanity.
    Oops, I slipped into emotive language myself there a bit!

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    I have a friend who's a developer. When they clear the land it's called rape and scrape. Seems to me that's degrading both to the land and the people who are using the language.

    I'd rather have chickens for eggs.

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    Nice thread bump actually modwiz. I didn't pick it was started a month ago!
    Nice, because I had another go at watching it. It was a bit of a challenge a few times but I watched the whole thing. And hey maybe I am the last one to watch it and everyone has seen it and it is why not much comment was made.
    This is actually worth watching.

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    Quote Originally posted by Nothing View Post
    Nice thread bump actually modwiz. I didn't pick it was started a month ago!
    Nice, because I had another go at watching it. It was a bit of a challenge a few times but I watched the whole thing. And hey maybe I am the last one to watch it and everyone has seen it and it is why not much comment was made.
    This is actually worth watching.
    There are a number of videos making the case for being vegetarian/vegan but, they seem to include horrific images........from what I am told. I have never watched even one. I was already vegetarian before they started populating the web. John Robbins' "Diet for a New America" apparently includes some pretty nasty visuals. I do not need, or want, the trauma. Even some videos about the NWO contain visuals I either avert my eyes from or minimize the window to my tool bar. Ideas and visuals are food also and I consider those images to be the equivalent of excrement. Since fast food eaters regular consume shit, watching it is just another day in paradise for them, lol. It is good to know you found the video worthy of your time. I will still skip it as this choir boy needs no preaching to.
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    Let us feed this thread. Vegan, of course.

    At present, 1 in 2 men and 1 in 3 women in the United States will develop cancer in their lifetimes.

    Furthermore, the number of cancer cases is expected to double by the year 2050. Obviously, this news is distressing.

    However, there is hope, and the solution could be as simple as eating more unprocessed plant-based foods.

    According to a study conducted in 2005, scientists have learned that blood taken from vegans is 8 times more effective at killing cancer cells than blood taken from those following a Standard American Diet.
    http://www.zengardner.com/study-vega...-cancer-cells/
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    I have family and friends who are vegetarian. My niece was for a while. My cousin has been most of her life. I haven't known many vegans.

    My mother was strongly opposed to vegetarianism. She was convinced there were long term health problems but never really had specifics. She worried about getting enough B vitamins and enough protein.

    I've always focused on eating fresh food, minimizing processed and refined foods. My son has surpassed me in terms of creative, healthful and nutritious meal preparation. There are many more good options available now in supermarkets.

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    When I posted the last post, I had to resist several times the desire to edit and add a clarification or two on what I specifically found worthy of claiming as worthy.
    But I felt I had to or wanted to just leave it as I did, knowing it would prompt assumption about why I found value in it. I feel this is a great video to test oneself. I feel the notion of prejudiced mind and the triggers we are controlled by is the value here. It's 30mins. I was at different points, battling myself, while watching my reactions to if I agreed or not. I decided it was a good teaching tool. Sure, I have seen the data used before, its not about that, it is about reaction, about mind programming. Especially if explained as such in conjunction with watching. I wanted to see if any others from here would get that. First success is watching it. The mind just puts forward excuses not to, like my first post.

    Add. Oh, that is a keen point however, about the harsh imagery, Modwiz, and I respect that, most of it is contained within a warned section, but a few bits leak out into areas of the rest. Should acknowledge that for any viewers.
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    I agree with the general sentiment in this video that the practices being described are cruel and should not be happening. But on the other hand if people raise their own cattle or goats or whatever, and treat them humanely and not as products in an assembly line, I see nothing wrong with milking your cows or goats if that's what you want to do. If more people produce their own food in general we'd all be better off for it.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    I agree with the general sentiment in this video that the practices being described are cruel and should not be happening. But on the other hand if people raise their own cattle or goats or whatever, and treat them humanely and not as products in an assembly line, I see nothing wrong with milking your cows or goats if that's what you want to do. If more people produce their own food in general we'd all be better off for it.
    Agreed, brother. Also, slitting of a throat with a razor sharp knife can even be done without the animal noticing more than what felt like a fly bite. If done while eating, they may even return to eating.....until they fall over.

    Killing needs to be personal to approach legitimacy, IMO.
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    Modwiz, you speak of the halal or kosher way. A friend explained to me that the animal must be calm and happy rather than terrorized at death. The fear is seen to 'poison' the meat.

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