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    Trump vs The Deep State

    Midterm Elections - Its do or die for the Deep State - The Dems need to take back the House, otherwise its GITMO for many.

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    Comey Donates Maximum Amount to Democratic Challenger in Virginia House Race



    The Deep State worried as hell & is on the Run...



    Comey donates maximum amount to Democratic challenger in Virginia House race

    Comey donates maximum amount to Democratic challenger in Virginia House race
    Former FBI Director James Comey donated the maximum legal amount to Democratic candidate Jennifer Wexton as she campaigns to unseat vulnerable Virginia Rep. Barbara Comstock (R) in November.
    Comey donated $2,700 to Wexton’s campaign in September as the Virginia Democrat continues to gain momentum in the state’s hotly-contested 10th congressional district race, Federal Election Commission filings show.
    The former FBI head has traditionally donated to Republican campaigns, including Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign and John McCain’s presidential campaign in 2008.
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    3:45 PM - 17 Oct 2018

    Mueller Holding Back the Russian Probe Report to Save Democrats from Huge Embarrassment before Midterms



    Mueller Holding Back the Russian Probe Report to Save Democrats from Huge Embarrassment before Midterms

    Mueller Holding Back the Russian Probe Report to Save Democrats from Huge Embarrassment before Midterms
    The Mueller Report is complete. But Mueller has decided to hold on to it.
    Any guesses as to why the hottest report on the planet, a report taxpayers have paid over $20 million at this point must be delayed until AFTER the midterms? Can’t think of anything?
    Honestly, how does a man with major conflicts of interests report on himself? Further, when your investigation yields absolutely nothing against the target in more than a year, yet a treasure trove of information against his opponents is amassed, well you should slow-walk the report.
    And that’s just what Mueller is doing.
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    12:23 PM - 17 Oct 2018

    Pelosi: Having Gavel Will Give Me ‘Leverage’ over Trump



    Pelosi: Having Gavel Will Give Me ‘Leverage’ over Trump

    Pelosi: Having Gavel Will Give Me ‘Leverage’ over Trump
    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-ca) Said On Tuesday That Regaining Her Speakership Will Give Her Leverage In Her Conversations With President Donald Trump And Will Make “all The Difference In The World” When Negotiating On Issues Like Amnesty And Gun Control.
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    12:01 PM - 18 Oct 2018
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    Project Veritas on The Midterm Elections: What goes on behind the scenes... Tennessee & Missouri...

    Project Veritas - Midterm: (Tenn) "We don't say that out of these walls." Bredesen Staff Says He Is Lying About Kavanaugh Vote
    (Oct 10, 2018)

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9bjb46FtG0

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    Project Veritas Action Fund has released a second undercover video from campaigns during this 2018 election season. This report exposes Tennessee staffers from Phil Bredesen's U.S. Senate campaign revealing his willingness to court moderate voters through deceit. This was especially evidenced by Bredesen's recent statement suggesting he would, if he was already in the Senate, vote to confirm now Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
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    McCaskill (Missouri) Hides Agenda from Voters, "semi-automatic rifle ban"
    (Oct 15, 2018)

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doh0d78lin4


    McCaskill Campaign "Essentially" Lies to Get Elected; Campaign Hides PPFA Contributions
    (Oct 16, 2018)

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuFCpIjasC0


    Claire McCaskill Responds to FIRST Undercover Video on Local News
    (Oct 16, 2018)

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlJw0ssWGVw


    PART 2: McCaskill Campaign Hides Planned Parenthood Contributions "to get the moderate voters"
    (Oct 17, 2018)

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPFE9jTByBE


    James O'Keefe: McCaskill's Response is Outrageous
    (Oct 17, 2018)
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    X22Report: Episode 1691 - Another Flip, Trump Preparing The Masses, More Carpet Bombs On The Way


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    (Oct 16, 2018)

    Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 39:36 — 41.1MB)

    NOTE: Youtube temporarily took down the videos ==> CENSORSHIP

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    US job opening hits a record high, 1.2 million job vacancies. The statistical information is so far from reality right now, if this was true we would see wages sky rocketing, but we don’t. The American people are not keeping up with the inflation, from last year to this year wages have gone up .5%. Peter Schiff warns of another recession. Trump confirms that plan, right on schedule.

    Trump lays into Senator Warren, the DNA test is backfiring and the Native Americans are agreeing with Trump, Warren is not Native American. More evidence has come out that McCabe leaked information. Wolfe has been brought up on charges, these charges are for lying to the FBI, but behind the scenes he most likely flipped and it testifying on all the others who put him up to leaking the FISA document. Trump tells Honduras if you continue with the deep state policy funding will be cutoff.

    (Of specific interest to the Deep State): The Mockingbird MSM is pushing their narrative that Saudi Arabia is responsible for Khashoggi disappearance, they want them to come out & admit it, Trump says it could be rogue elements. The deep state is trying to push their agenda. Deep state tries to block peace talks in Afghanistan. Libya getting ready for elections, and a political solution is coming for Syria. Trump tweet more bread to get the American people ready for the declass, more carpet bombs on the way.
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    Geopolitical/Police State
    The Khashoggi Disappearance

    Khashoggi family denies issuing statement
    • ‘We refuse the exploitation of our name to target Saudi Arabia’

    • Dubai: The family of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi on Tuesday said that they rejected all attempts to use its name to attack Saudi Arabia and target its reputation.
    • “The men and women of the Khashoggi family are all loyal to the country and utterly refuse to use or exploit the name of the family in an agenda seeking to harm Saudi Arabia,” Sultan, Jamal’s son, posted on his Twitter account.

    Source: gulfnews.com

    Russia welcomes Turkey-Saudi investigation into Khashoggi case
    • Russia welcomes agreement between Turkey and Saudi Arabia to hold a joint investigation into the case of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov
    • Russia hopes that the results of this investigation will be made public,

    Source: jpost.com

    Are they covering tracks up? Twitter abuzz after footage of “cleaners” entering Saudi consulate
    • A video of people with mops and buckets, entering the Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Istanbul hours before investigators of Jamal Khashoggi’s disappearance were to go there has prompted concerns and speculations.

    • The footage showed two women and a man delivering cleaning gear through the front door of the Saudi diplomatic mission under the supervision of a guard.
    • They entered the building on the day when a team of investigators, put together by Ankara and Riyadh, were to search the consulate where Turkish authorities claim Saudi dissident journalist was killed.

    Source: rt.com

    Breaking: Some materials have been painted over at Saudi consulate where Khashoggi disappeared
    • Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says some materials in Saudi consulate in Istanbul were painted over.

    Source: almasdarnews.com

    Turkey Finds ‘Evidence’ Missing Journalist Was Killed Inside Saudi Consulate: AP
    • The MSM is reporting the following

    A high-level Turkish official says police have found “certain evidence” during their search of the Saudi Consulate showing that Saudi writer Jamal Khashoggi was killed there.
    The official did not provide details on the evidence that was recovered during the hourslong search at the diplomatic mission that ended early Tuesday.
    The official spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the investigation.
    • Turkey said the Saudis have not admitted to their role in Khashoggi’s death, contrary to media reports.

    Source: zerohedge.com

    Saudi Arabian prince opponents may be involved in journalist’s disappearance, expert says
    • There is a “violent struggle for power within the royal family” to undermine him, v said

    • Opponents of Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman may be involved the disappearance of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi,
    • Trump also mention rogue killers

    Source: /tass.com

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    Limbaugh on Khashoggi: ‘Where Was This Concern for Our Ambassador and Three Other Men Brutally Murdered in Benghazi?’



    Limbaugh on Khashoggi: ‘Where Was This Concern for Our Ambassador and Three Other Men Brutally Murdered in Benghazi?’

    Limbaugh on Khashoggi: ‘Where Was This Concern for Our Ambassador and Three Other Men Brutally Murdered in Benghazi?’
    Wednesday on his nationally syndicated radio show, conservative talker Rush Limbaugh compared the situation involving journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who was allegedly brutally killed at a Saudi Arabian consulate in Turkey, to that of the tragedy of September 11, 2012 at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi that resulted in the deaths of J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

    "Ladies and gentlemen, I have a question. I continue to get emails about the so-called Washington Post journalist, Jamal Khashoggi. My question is a really rather simple one: Where was this concern for our ambassador and three other men brutally murdered in Benghazi? Somebody explain that to me? You realize how much attention is being paid to what… Has it been confirmed….? Did something happen since this program began?"
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    12:01 PM - 18 Oct 2018
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    Khashoggi - a CIA Asset

    Khashoggi Assassination Plot: A Highly Consequential, Complex and Convoluted Conspiracy Unravels

    • Khashoggi was a rather shady guy. A ‘journalist’ who was also an operator for Saudi and U.S. intelligence services. He was an early recruit of the Muslim Brotherhood

    • Khashoggi helped in the U.S./Saudi/Pakistani project to destabilize Afghanistan. He met and interviewed Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan and Sudan. The man with the RPG in the upper left picture is Jamal Khashoggi himself.




    • Khashoggi became a protege of the longtime head of Saudi intelligence, Turki Faisal Al-Saud. He was engaged in several ‘projects’ in Afghanistan, Sudan and Algeria. Khashoggi followed Turki as ‘media advisor’ when he became ambassador in London and later in Washington DC.

    • Jamal Khashoggi supported the Muslim Brotherhood during the ‘Arab Spring’. This was in line with the Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama supported regime change program for most of the Middle East. After the fall of President Mubarak in Egypt and the election win by the Brotherhood the Saudi rulers feared to be the next in line. They started to finance counter revolutions in Egypt and elsewhere. Under the reign of King Salman and his son the suppression of all aspects of Brotherhood influence intensified. Having lost his protection Khashoggi decided to leave Saudi Arabia:


    • Khashoggi has an enormous number of friends in Washington DC. Mainstream journalists see him as of one of their own.

    • Trump is under pressure to ‘do something’, to punish the Saudis and especially MbS.

    • The Saudis asked Erdogan to accept a “joint investigation” of the Khashoggi case.

    • First, the murder (or psy-ops staged murder) of Washington Postcolumnist Jamal Khashoggi is part of a move to remove the Zionist/Satanic house of Saud from control of Saudi Arabia and Middle Eastern oil, according to Pentagon and CIA sources. The operation is also aimed at grabbing funds to keep the bankrupt U.S. afloat, CIA sources say.

    Source: themillenniumreport.com
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    You know, I really don't understand it. You single-minded US Republicans and Trump fanboys already have your candidate in the White House. So why do you — i.e. the impersonal "you" — still feel the need to post that ludicrous pro-Trump propaganda everywhere?

    Has it perhaps eluded you that your "Lord & Savior" Donald J. Trump is an ego-driven racist who wants to build a wall between the USA and Mexico, that he's nixing every environmental protection act — and has already nixed the Endangered Species Act — in favor of Big Oil™ and Big Coal™, and that he also doesn't have a shred of statesmanship inside of him and would be utterly clueless without his (opinionated) advisers at the level of international politics?

    Is this the long-awaited Messiah who's going to lead humanity — which, as you may already have heard somewhere, is comprised of not just the roughly 300 million people living in the USA alone, but also of some 7.1 billion more human beings on (for right-wing US Americans completely unknown) patches of land outside of the borders of the USA — into a prosperous future, where consciousness is elevated, where initiatives are enlightened and where everyone can thrive, instead of only the already abundantly wealthy upper class of socio-economical vampires?


    <taking a deep breath>


    Anyway, The One Truth aspires to be an adult forum, where almost every kind of subject can be discussed, provided that it is done with intelligence and in all serenity. So if you absolutely want to discuss Donald Trump's politics on yet another thread beside the already large number of existing threads either dedicated to or surreptitiously converted into the discussion of exclusively US-centric matters and equally exclusively US-specific politics, then be my guest. But then at least have the courtesy and respect for this forum by making the subject into a discussion, rather than into a cheerleading propaganda thread with attention-grabbing large-font headers and videos from overtly bigoted YouTube talking heads.

    The One Truth is open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains fall out, and we do have rules and quality standards over here. The rules are flexible, but not infinitely flexible. If you're only here to sell propaganda, then please take it to another forum or to one of the many message boards dedicated to Trump cheerleading.

    The One Truth is a discussion forum, and it also attempts to be an online community of people whose ambition it is to look for solutions which rise above the age-old us-versus-them paradigm — we look for the synthesis, instead of aligning ourselves with either the thesis or the antithesis. What The One Truth is not, is a propaganda billboard.

    For now, I am going to leave this thread open, so that an intelligent discussion may ensue. If no intelligent discussion ensues here on this thread within the next 48 hours, then I'm going to close it.

    You may consider this an official warning, Turiya.
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    Seeing through the Mockingbird MSM propaganda haze & it will become clear that 'We the People' are really not divided. It just takes the eyes to see clearly. But of course, if one chooses to remain dogmatic & steadfast about their beliefs, then blinders will undoubtedly remain in place. Only the ones who wear those blinders can remove them by their own hands.

    The Deep State not only is the so-called "military-industrial complex', but it also includes the Rothschild central banking system, the political bought-off politicians that occupy positions on both sides of the political spectrum, the multinational corps that are in positions to reap the mega profits that can be attained for colluding with the darker side that have no real interest in having any positive influence on humanity as a whole. Speaking of the "darker side", Human Trafficking aligns itself with no specific political party, as well.

    For example, the Bushes voted for HRC, John 'no-name' McCain had a big hand in the push for this eternal war ongoing conflict in the Balkans & Middle East, along with his traitorous alignment & support for the Syrian rebels - i.e. ISIS. These are clear examples that the Deep State plays its hand on both sides of the political spectrum. Its drug running is about profit - no matter how many people it takes down. Big Pharma plays its part, along with mega corps like Monsanto.

    So, I have no idea who it is that is being referred to with the statement above regarding "You Republicans". Again, 'blinders'.

    Getting the picture?

    Here we have billionaire George Soros playing his part in the Deep State scheme of things.

    CONFIRMED: George Soros Funded Fusion GPS; Dirty Dem Money Helped Back Bogus Trump Dossier



    CONFIRMED: George Soros Funded Fusion GPS; Dirty Dem Money Helped Back Bogus Trump Dossier

    CONFIRMED: George Soros Funded Fusion GPS; Dirty Dem Money Helped Back Bogus Trump Dossier
    A spokesman for left-wing billionaire financier George Soros is acknowledging that he indirectly funded Fusion GPS, the firm behind the Steele dossier
    Sources have told The Daily Caller News Foundation in the past that Soros helped fund Fusion’s post-election work on Russian interference in the election process
    Soros’ spokesman told The Washington Post that Soros donated to the Democracy Integrity Project, a group founded by a former staffer to Sen. Dianne Feinstein Michael Vachon, the Soros aide, told Washington Post columnist David Ignatius that Soros provided a grant to a nonprofit group called the Democracy Integrity Project.
    That organization, which was formed in 2017 by Daniel Jones, a former Senate Intelligence Committee staffer for Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, paid Fusion GPS as a contractor to continue an investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. READ MORE:
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    8:15 AM - 27 Sep 2018
    Now, because the article uses the descriptive terminology - 'left-wing' - for George Soros, if one identifies themselves with either being 'left' or the 'right', then they've fallen into a 'politically correct' rut. One will have to get themselves out of that rut by their own means.

    More recently, Soros, as he is doing in the EU, appears to have his fingerprints wrapped around the recent 'caravan' coming out of Honduras. Job security for the American working class should be a concern for every American regardless of political affiliation.

    Honduras: Video Shows Women with Children Are Being Given Cash to Join the Caravan to Storm the US Border



    Matt Gaetz shared footage Wednesday showing women and children being paid cash to join the migrant caravan that is hurdling toward the U.S. Southern border.

    Gatez suspected that George Soros cash was being used, based on very clear-cut evidence of George Soros involvement in recent political matters including the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation process. (READ: Soros-Funded Group Paying Bail Money For Kavanaugh Protesters).

    VIDEO
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    Futures Proves Past, Listen To The Past - Episode 1693a
    (Oct 18, 2018)

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6w8C9LuelQ

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    America now believes that the economy is doing well. This is going according to the plan, the people believe that Trump fixed the economy. Now comes the pain for the central banks. Back in 2015 Trump said the economy is false, we are in a bubble, this was because it really is, the central bank is responsible for the economy and the debt problems that plague the world.
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    The Sky Is Falling, Panic, Shut It Down At Any Cost, Dead End - Episode 1693b
    (Oct 18, 2018)

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlKXeqXS-_Y

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    Future proves past. We are now seeing leakers being arrested and these leakers are tracking right back to Obama and Clinton and the Mueller investigation. Federal Judge says he was tricked on the Hillary case because information was withheld from him. The deep state is panicking, they know the declas is coming and they need to push their agenda to distract from what has been really going on. They are pushing the narrative of Saudi Arabia to do this, the deep state wants Trump to cutoff all ties to Saudi Arabia and sanction the country to punish it so no investigation into wonderland will ever take place. The deep state wants Trump to listen to the Intelligence groups and provide them with all the information. This is a dead end.
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    The above X22Report @ ~7:00 minutes contained a clip from 2015 Face the Nation interview w/ Donald Trump. This was when Trump was just considering running for the GOP side of the political spectrum (he had previously run as a Democrat).

    In that clip Trump said, "Its a false economy that we're living in. We're in a bubble."

    Now, the person who said that was Trump. And he was talking about the Federal Reserve policy. And back then he was a candidate. So, listen to what he said back in 2015....

    Full, extended Donald Trump interview
    (Sep 13, 2015)

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixCj9TDPmpA

    From Dave of X22Report:

    "Now back then, when Trump was saying all of this, talking about the false economy & the unemployment numbers, we were saying the same exact thing - that these are manipulated numbers. When he got into office, and he started using the same accounting methods... you know, as unemployment, GDP, the Stock Market...

    Alot of people thought, "Oh, wait a minute, Trump before was saying that this was fake. And now, he is saying it is real."

    You see, they're misinterpreting what he is actually doing. And people misinterpret a lot of what he does. For example, with North Korea... the news was saying, "He's 'trigger happy'", "We're going to go to war. And, we don't see peace in the cards, whatsoever."

    And actually, the opposite happened.

    This is how he works. This is what he does.
    He convinces everyone that he's doing something else, while in the background, it allows him to do what he really wants to do. And, what the patriots need to do... And that is, to get rid of the central bank.

    And, the only way to do this... and remember, the people need to understand & realize that it was the central bank that did this... The central bankers, they've been responsible for much of the misery that is going on in the world today. That it was those individuals that held government - that was in line with the central bank - they're the ones who did this.

    So right now, the future is proving the past. He has placed the portrait of Andrew Jackson on the wall in the Oval Office on purpose. (Andrew Jackson took down the central banking system in his day.)

    It was an indicator. It was a signal to everyone. "This is what I am going to do!"


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    Quote Originally posted by turiya View Post
    For example, the Bushes voted for HRC, John 'no-name' McCain had a big hand in the push for this eternal war ongoing conflict in the Balkans & Middle East, along with his traitorous alignment & support for the Syrian rebels - i.e. ISIS. These are clear examples that the Deep State plays its hand on both sides of the political spectrum. Its drug running is about profit - no matter how many people it takes down. Big Pharma plays its part, along with mega corps like Monsanto.

    So, I have no idea who it is that is being referred to with the statement above regarding "You Republicans". Again, 'blinders'.
    Aragorn might have been more accurate in referring to it as the Alt Right, as the likes of Bush's and McCains are indeed singled out as well. Then again, whenever you choose to enter Q, the other half of this Alt Right dynamic duo into the equation, it will be seen (as it already has been) that the Alt Right will vote for the "Red Wave" down the card.

    Actually that is already apparent right below your above quote with this blaring gem:

    CONFIRMED: George Soros Funded Fusion GPS; Dirty Dem Money Helped Back Bogus Trump Dossier

    Ah that dirty Dem money, unlike that squeaky clean Republican/Trump money? Speaking of our "Fourth Turning" savior, what is he doing traversing the country full time besides the typical slamming of Democrats, and hailing of Republicans? Politics as usual. So while it's convenient to say the Trump/Q thing isn't a Republican thing, it actually is, and you're trying to have it both ways.

    For those that don't know about "The Fourth Turning" Trump thing, you need to check this shit out:
    https://www.hennessysview.com/2017/1...ng-in-america/

    P.S. Might Kiwi be heading this way to help you peel back our blinders with a complimenting slew of X22 videos, and even more of all that loud flashy propaganda?
    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Aragorn might have been more accurate in referring to it as the Alt Right, as the likes of Bush's and McCains are indeed singled out as well. Then again, whenever you choose to enter Q, the other half of this Alt Right dynamic duo into the equation, it will be seen (as it already has been) that the Alt Right will vote for the "Red Wave" down the card.

    Actually that is already apparent right below your above quote with this blaring gem:

    CONFIRMED: George Soros Funded Fusion GPS; Dirty Dem Money Helped Back Bogus Trump Dossier

    Ah that dirty Dem money, unlike that squeaky clean Republican/Trump money? Speaking of our "Fourth Turning" savior, what is he doing traversing the country full time besides the typical slamming of Democrats, and hailing of Republicans? Politics as usual. So while it's convenient to say the Trump/Q thing isn't a Republican thing, it actually is, and you're trying to have it both ways.

    For those that don't know about "The Fourth Turning" Trump thing, you need to check this shit out:
    https://www.hennessysview.com/2017/1...ng-in-america/

    P.S. Might Kiwi be heading this way to help you peel back our blinders with a complimenting slew of X22 videos, and even more of all that loud flashy propaganda?
    Hey Fred, good of you to leave a post for me.

    Yes, of course. This is the way of the dualistic world in which we live. The pendulum swings from one extreme to the other extreme. As Ba-ba-Ra has said in a recent message to me, we are witnessing the fall of one Deep State & the rise of another. This could very well be. Certainly, Donald Trump may very well have meant what he said during his inauguration speech...

    "We are not merely transferring power from one administration to another, or from one party to another. But we are transferring power from Washington DC and giving it back to you - The People." -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1FPra6JK_M


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1FPra6JK_M

    There will always be the question as who will come behind him. Much can be done to try to keep the nefarious individuals from seizing power - Term limits, preventing voter fraud, the lobbyist bribes, insider trading, etc. The best individual that I can see coming as a follow-up would be Rand Paul. But certainly, the pendulum is bound to swing. There is momentum behind it. Just have to see how that plays itself out. The world will continue to churn long after you & I have disappeared from the scene.

    But, when it comes to the false accusations... oh, I see what was written initially has been retracted... Yes, emotions should be checked at the door before entering to comment...

    Regarding Kiwi...
    I know there have been some PA members that were banned temporarily & permanently (retired), others had come to decide not to post again on the forum after Bill Ryan's cry-baby victimhood tantrum that he threw - he simply disliked what was taking place. Funny he called the Qanon thing a 'cult'.

    Define 'projection'.
    Define 'psychological projection'
    Q


    cult
    /kəlt/
    noun
    noun: cult; plural noun: cults
    - a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.
    "a cult of personality surrounding the leaders"
    synonyms: obsession with, fixation on, mania for, passion for, idolization of, devotion to, worship of, veneration of
    "the cult of eternal youth in Hollywood"

    As, because of Bill Ryan's past experience with Scientology, and seeing how much of the membership were flocking to hit the "Thank You" button - giving way too much adoration to Bill, I've often considered that all the attention may be effecting Bill's reasoning skills, and that, in a way, it looked to be somewhat of a cult that I just happened to fall in with.... I never felt comfortable with hitting that "Thank You" button. His overly moralistic attitude & assessment of others - banning people & unsubscribing members for very trivial things, I believe, comes from his Scientology conditioning / brainwashing days with that crowd.

    I think Bill saw what was happening with Q as something that was not under his control. I think he felt that it had to stop. edit: And now, I know there was for a good reason for bringing all the research to an abrupt halt, as I have just recently received (23-Oct2018) an interesting link to something posted on the 8chan board regarding Bill's connection to what is known as 'Pizzagate' and some intel 'spooks'. (Click this LINK to see what is being referred to).

    Bill Ryan had no interest in researching what was being posted by Q, just to see for himself whether the phenom was indeed a military intelligence operation. In order to come see if it indeed was, you had to do the research. There have been plenty of Q - proofs to show that it surely is. After viewing the above link, one will clearly see why Bill Ryan wanted to put an end to the thread & research that was taking place regarding the Q drops. The Pizzagate meme is quite relevant. There as a couple of interesting pics to go along with this new information - IMAGE1 & IMAGE2

    Bill initially came at me (Post #6845 of the Qanon thread) because he didn't like my reply to his post in which he labeled the Q phenom a 'cult'. Bill threatened to ban me. My response was essentially that one can find cults just about everywhere you look in society, if that is what you are looking for. My example was when I went to the gym to workout, there was a time when I tried to change the channel from the CNN news station to another news channel. Dozens of people threw a fit, expressed there anger to my changing it to a different news station. In a sense, this can also be considered to be called a cult - the CNN cult (if you will) of people that are hooked on watching that particular type of propaganda programming.

    After this, a couple others were temporarily banned. Kiwi got his third strike warning. I was also riding on my third strike warning - (edit: just had been "unsubscribed" by moderator Paul Jackson as of today Monday, 22-Oct2018). All of us had initially be contacted by several other forum members wanting us to come back. Personally, I had previously contributed to the PA forum several times in the past. With Bill's basically calling me an 'unbalanced' individual, I felt... "Well, enough of that."

    From ex-wife Christine's information, Bill has used the PA contributions to pay his own bills. I choose not to support him or his forum in any way, shape or form, now.

    I was considering to contribute to this forum... went to see of it would accept Paypal, but the button doesn't work. I know that you had a thread here discussing how to get more members to stay afloat. Well, after Aragorn's well scripted post (much of it now retracted), I think I will pass on that notion.

    Don't know what the other members are up to.... edina is gearing up to walk across the Appalachians. Last I heard from Kiwi is that he's enjoying nature for a change from the internet. MM (lost her moderator position over this) is focusing on local issues where she lives (Arizona). In the meantime, we'll just have to see how long I last here.

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    I do not see this as right vs. left. I see this as nationalism vs. globalism. It is just being played out on the world stage by the US first. Don't be fooled. What happens here will affect every country sooner or later.

    Could anyone explain to me why they consider globalism preferable to nationalism?

    btw, I have read the Fourth Turning...more than once...and have formed my own opinions of it.
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    Hmm, I see Dart Hatman is playing God again. He really seems to enjoy that. I wonder how people last so many years over on that forum, they must really know how to keep their mouths shut. I barely lasted a month before I was banned...

    As for the whole Q stuff, to me it is Blue Chicken 2.0, entertaining in a way, but not based on any actual facts as far as I can see.

    And as for the George Soros obsession, know that you are being played, this has been orchestrated by Putin from the very beginning and by certain people in the far right in the US. I'm not saying that he is a saint, obviously he is a deeply sinister man in some ways and he is ruthless when it comes to financial speculation and making money.

    He has also done a lot of good, especially in Eastern Europe, he did play a significant role in ending Soviet Rule in this part of the world and whatever else he might have done, I am grateful for that. That is also why he is so hated by Putin, he helped to end his beloved Soviet Union and is now working to bring down Putin too, which I see as a good thing personally.

    Quote Originally posted by Melidae View Post
    I do not see this as right vs. left. I see this as nationalism vs. globalism. It is just being played out on the world stage by the US first. Don't be fooled. What happens here will affect every country sooner or later.

    Could anyone explain to me why they consider globalism preferable to nationalism?

    btw, I have read the Fourth Turning...more than once...and have formed my own opinions of it.
    Globalism is inevitable if we are to have a Type 1 civilisation. It's called growing up. Nationalism may not be bad in itself, but it can and often does lead to bad things, just as tribalism and racism does. Nationalism is essentially the belief that your Nation is superior to others. It is a bad idea for the same reason that believing your race, religion or tribe is better than others, is a bad idea. I think I don't have to cite many examples from world history to demonstrate why this is generally not a good thing.
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    Quote Originally posted by turiya View Post
    Don't know what the other members are up to.... edina is gearing up to walk across the Appalachians. Last I heard from Kiwi is that he's enjoying nature for a change from the internet. MM (lost her moderator position over this) is focusing on local issues where she lives (Arizona).
    Thanks for the update.

    Quote Originally posted by turiya View Post
    In the meantime, we'll just have to see how long I last here.
    Hey man, so long as you are talking *to* us like you are now, and not *at* us like those splashy first few posts that irritated Aragorn (and me and well), I think you'll be just fine here. Aragorn has proven himself over time to be a fair man IMO, and any old timer from either here or at The Project knows I'm no ass kisser to authority.

    As an aside, much as I disagree with the pro Trump/Q crowd over there, and much as I happen to agree with Bill's opinion of the phenomena, I think he handled it poorly with you, and especially with Kiwi's Cheech & Chong world's biggest joint joke from Paula's picture. That was actually pretty funny!
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    lol, I guess this is bonus time again...we can all use extra money...not all of us would be interested in such low life work, though
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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    Hmm, I see Dart Hatman is playing God again. He really seems to enjoy that. I wonder how people last so many years over on that forum, they must really know how to keep their mouths shut. I barely lasted a month before I was banned...

    As for the whole Q stuff, to me it is Blue Chicken 2.0, entertaining in a way, but not based on any actual facts as far as I can see.

    And as for the George Soros obsession, know that you are being played, this has been orchestrated by Putin from the very beginning and by certain people in the far right in the US. I'm not saying that he is a saint, obviously he is a deeply sinister man in some ways and he is ruthless when it comes to financial speculation and making money.

    He has also done a lot of good, especially in Eastern Europe, he did play a significant role in ending Soviet Rule in this part of the world and whatever else he might have done, I am grateful for that. That is also why he is so hated by Putin, he helped to end his beloved Soviet Union and is now working to bring down Putin too, which I see as a good thing personally.



    Globalism is inevitable if we are to have a Type 1 civilisation. It's called growing up. Nationalism may not be bad in itself, but it can and often does lead to bad things, just as tribalism and racism does. Nationalism is essentially the belief that your Nation is superior to others. It is a bad idea for the same reason that believing your race, religion or tribe is better than others, is a bad idea. I think I don't have to cite many examples from world history to demonstrate why this is generally not a good thing.
    Nationalism is a bad thing in its essence...ask anybody that has any sense...real sense...There aren't many of them around but they are here waiting for the rest of the world to catch up with them...
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    Moving on to what is going on with Khashoggi:

    The Push is very strong and its coming from the MSM, Brennan and the US Intelligence groups (CIA) - i.e. the Deep State.... attempting to put pressure on Trump to do something regarding Saudi Arabia...

    US Treasury Sec Steve Mnuchin Pulls Out Of Saudi Investment Summit



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    Just met with @realDonaldTrump and @SecPompeo and we have decided, I will not be participating in the Future Investment Initiative summit in Saudi Arabia.

    8:29 AM - 18 Oct 2018
    • A very sparse statement, with no indication of “why”...

    Source: zerohedge.com

    Saudis Transfer $100 Million To US State Department As Khashoggi Crisis Deepens

    • When US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo flew into Riyadh to discuss the disappearance and likely death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Saudi Arabia transferred $100m to the State Department for US efforts against the Islamic State (IS) group, the New York Times reported late Tuesday.
    • While the funding was approved earlier in the summer, critics have viewed the timing of the transfer payment with suspicion.

    • The US State Department envoy for the anti-IS coalition said in a statement on Wednesday that they “expected the contribution to be finalized in the fall time frame”.

    “The specific transfer of funds has been long in process and has nothing to do with other events or the secretary’s visit,” envoy Brett McGurk said.
    Source: zerohedge.com

    Khashoggi Murder Suspect Dies In “Suspicious Car Accident”

    • A 31-year-old lieutenant in the Saudi Royal Air Force said to have participated in the killing of Saudi writer Jamal Khashoggi died in a “suspicious car accident” in Riyadh, according to Turkish media.

    • Mashal Saad al-Bostani was reportedly on a 15-man hit squad dispatched to Saudi Arabia’s Istanbul Consulate in Turkey on October 2 during Khashoggi’s visit, before the team quickly left the country,

    Source: zerohedge.com

    With all this news coming out Trump tweeted out the following and Pompeo gave a press conference about the situation



    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo returned last night from Saudi Arabia and Turkey. I met with him this morning wherein the Saudi situation was discussed in great detail, including his meeting with...

    8:40 AM - 18 Oct 2018


    ...the Crown Prince. He is waiting for the results of the investigations being done by the Saudis and Turkey, and just gave a news conference to that effect.

    8:40 AM - 18 Oct 2018
    US Intelligence “Increasingly Convinced” Saudi Prince Ordered Khashoggi’s Killing

    • The US intelligence community (CIA/FBI) is once again rebelling against the Trump White House – after Trump suggested that he would do everything he could to preserve the US-Saudi relationship and has effectively joined with the Turks to undermine the rule of Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman.

    • Is there a regime change push happening right under our noses.

    American intelligence officials are increasingly convinced that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia is culpable in the killing of the dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi, an appraisal that poses challenges to a White House intent on maintaining a close relationship with the kingdom.

    Intelligence agencies have not yet been able to collect direct evidence of the prince’s involvement, American and European officials said. They also have not been able to conclude whether Prince Mohammed directly ordered the killing of Mr. Khashoggi, or whether his intention was to have Mr. Khashoggi captured and taken back to Saudi Arabia, according to one official.

    But intelligence agencies have growing circumstantial evidence of the prince’s involvement — including the presence of members of his security detail and intercepts of Saudi officials discussing a possible plan to detain Mr. Khashoggi, according to American officials.


    So they have nothing, like the Russian Collusion conspiracy they made up
    • Most likely Trump is depending on Military intelligence instead of the CIA and FBI

    Source: zerohedge.com

    Saudis To Blame Top General For Journalist’s Killing: NYT
    • Less than a day after the New York Times published a report claiming that US intelligence agencies believe Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman gave the order to murder and dismember a former Saudi insider turned critic inside the kingdom’s consulate in Istanbul, the NYT is now saying the Saudis have selected a scapegoat who will most likely take the fall for the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Anonymous officials with knowledge of the Saudis’ plans said the kingdom is close to blaming to Gen. Ahmed al-Assiri, a high-ranking intelligence official and adviser to the crown prince, as the man responsible for masterminding the plot.
    • The report followed another anonymously sourced report from earlier in the week claiming the Saudis were preparing to admit that Khashoggi had been killed during a botched interrogation. Though the kingdom still has “a few more days” to complete its investigation, according to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo,

    Source: zerohedge.com

    White House, Saudis working to make up story on missing journalist’s fate: Brennan

    • Former CIA Director John Brennan says the United States government is working with Saudi Arabia to “concoct a story” about the fate of Jamal Khashoggi, an anti-Riyadh journalist who is believed to have been murdered after entering the Saudi consulate in Turkey’s Istanbul earlier this month.

    • Brennan said Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and the White House of President Donald Trump knew what happened to Khashoggi.

    • It also seems now we’re in this surreal and morally horrific situation in which the White House and the Saudis seem to be trying to sort of figure out what story they can come up with that they can both have plausibility for Mohammad bin Salman,” said Brennan,

    • Brennan also called on the CIA and other US intelligence agencies to hand in their evidence to Congress so that lawmakers could scrutinize the White House over its role in the alleged cover-up.

    • “That’s why it’s so important for the intelligence agencies, and CIA, to fully brief the intelligence committees on the Hill so that they have full insight into what happened there and they can then hold the administration’s feet to the fire,” he explained.

    Source: presstv.ir

    Brennan on Khashoggi

    • Brennan also said the following, "If he is found to be dead at the hands of the Saudi government, his demise cannot go unanswered — by the Trump administration, by Congress or by the world community. Ideally, King Salman would take immediate action against those responsible, but if he doesn’t have the will or the ability, the United States would have to act.". That would include immediate sanctions on all Saudis involved; a freeze on U.S. military sales to Saudi Arabia; suspension of all routine intelligence cooperation with Saudi security services; and a U.S.-sponsored U.N. Security Council resolution condemning the murder. The message would be clear: The United States will never turn a blind eye to such inhuman behavior, even when carried out by friends, because this is a nation that remains faithful to its values.”

    • Trump says The missing Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi appears to be dead, US President Donald Trump has told reporters, saying there would be “severe” consequences for whoever is behind it.


    Putin Hints At New Russia-Saudi Axis: “No Reason To Spoil Saudi Ties Over Khashoggi Killing”

    • Russian President Vladimir Putin finally weighed in on the disappearance (and purportedly brutal slaying) of Saudi dissident Jamal Khashoggi during a speech in Sochi on Thursday. His verdict? Russia doesn’t have enough information about the incident to justify spoiling their relationship with Saudi Arabia

    Source: zerohedge.com
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