Okay, let me try to refine down what bothers me about this. I actually get what you're saying now Aragorn, but I think this system still can leave matters unclear for future readers. I'll try and put it in a nut shell.
Again, as I've said previously this is NOT a big deal for me, more for bookkeeping types of clarifications. In trying to not make this intro too wordy, I'm hoping that just going off this one quote (along with it's parent quote above) will pretty much clarify the gist of this. Also, thank you Aragorn for taking the time to try and explain it.
- It really needent be in my opinion, for example why does banning have to also include denied access to even read the forum, what harm is there in that? Why can't someone be "Banned", thus avoiding the possible confusion with being "Retired", yet still be able to read? If the offense were so egregious that you didn't even want them reading, THEN you could slap a further IP ban on them. But this would be very rare.
- Perhaps there could even be a further delineation, a middle ground if you will, between "Retired" and "Banned", and for lack of a better word let's just call it "Unsubscribed". If our said future reader comes across "Retired" they know the member left voluntarily and could most likely return, if they see "Banned" they know this person must have really deserved it, and when they see "Unsubscribed", they would know it was in that middle ground somewhere.
So anyway those are my thoughts, my rough draft ideas on the matter. If y'all still want to just keep things the way they are it won't bother me in the least, it's really no more important to me than the old question of having the "Thank You" button or not. But, it would be nice to at least hear what others think about this, or even if it's just me getting old and more easily confused.