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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    I noticed that Bill Maher, whose opinion I really trust on matters of US politics
    Really? That guy has been like a political hack for a good while now, I hear that he once used to be a funny "comedian".

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Really? That guy has been like a political hack for a good while now, I hear that he once used to be a funny "comedian".
    Perhaps Wind, I've always just thought of him as an asshole!

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    But that's just it. You identify as an American.

    I live in Belgium ─ a country also torn by divisions, and that's plural, because in addition to the left-right paradigm, there's also the tension between the Flemish and francophone population, albeit that this is more of a political spiel than that the people themselves would be hostile toward one another ─ but I do not identify as a Belgian. Belgium is just the patch of land where I happen to live, and whose laws I must abide by if I want to stay out of trouble. But I see myself as just a person, and likewise I see other people as individual humans. I care not whether they are Christians, Jews or Muslims, black, white or Asian, Dutch-speaking, francophone or whatever other language they speak, native-born or immigrant, and so on.

    I do not see myself as a Belgian. That's just an administrative formality.



    Now, as you probably would have gleaned already from my earlier posts, I'm not exactly a fan of the way the EU works internally, but would it really be such a bad thing for Planet Earth if ─ just as an example ─ the EU were to end up leading the world instead of the USA? Would it?

    Never mind Russia ─ Putin is too much of a nationalist, and he's way too busy trying to hold his own country together amidst of all the political dissidence and criticism he's reaping. And never mind the Chinese, because as a socialist nation in a capitalist world, they too are too busy to even think about invading countries on other continents and overthrowing their regimes.

    But of course, if the EU were to lead the world instead of the USA, then America would suffer, even if only because America ─ with its self-righteous defiance of the metric system and of the human rights principles that exist outside of the USA ─ would suddenly be exposed for what it really is underneath that glamorous Hollywood veneer and those heroic looking military outfits, namely a socially, culturally and intellectually underdeveloped country. They would need to learn what it means to be civilized. American children would suddenly need to learn about the existence of those other nations at school, and maybe learn new languages.

    They would need to learn that Austria is not the country with the kangaroos that lies north of Scotland. They would need to adapt to something that is not America. And most of all, they would need to learn that Americans are not more valuable and not more exceptional than any other human being on this godforsaken planet, but that they instead have yet so much to learn from all those other cultures whose existence they have been ignoring in their American hubris.



    Those divisions have already existed ever since the USA was created on the blood and bones of the natives whose land was stolen from underneath them at gunpoint, on the blood, sweat and tears of the African slaves that were kidnapped away from their families and their homes only to end up being treated worse than farm animals, and on the sweat of the underpaid and maltreated Chinese railroad laborers that were lured over to America under false promises only to end up being treated only marginally better than the African slaves.

    This is nothing new. It just so happens to be that the times have changed and that people are now gathering online, which allows extremists to find each other and form organized or semi-organized lobbies ─ as well as militias, but that's just because America has a quasi unbridled firearms industry.







    Some scholars believe that Earth is flat, and some scholars believe that "Jesus died for our sins". Some mathematicians, statisticians and scientists believe that the SARS-CoV-2 virus was a biological weapon developed in a Chinese laboratory.

    If I had a penny for every ludicrous belief system in existence, I'd be rich.
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    If Bill Maher represents more than one actual American (I assume he is American?), I would be shocked. In fact, that may be too many…I’d be shocked if he actually believes half of his own bullshit
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    In fact, he was on CNN the other night repeating the right wing lie that CRT = teaching white kids to be ashamed, and that it’s being taught in school.

    He’s in the final stages of his metamorphosis from “moderate” hack to full on right winger…a slow motion Tucker Carlson with less talent
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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    If Bill Maher represents more than one actual American (I assume he is American?), I would be shocked. In fact, that may be too many…I’d be shocked if he actually believes half of his own bullshit
    Bill Maher is very, very much a typical run-of-the-mill mainstream US Democrat. He's a good entertainer, but every vantage he presents as his own comes straight out of the DNC's propaganda machine ─ the only difference being that he freely uses expletives.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Bill Maher is very, very much a typical run-of-the-mill mainstream US Democrat. He's a good entertainer, but every vantage he presents as his own comes straight out of the DNC's propaganda machine ─ the only difference being that he freely uses expletives.
    I have to disagree with that assessment, Aragorn, unless you are willing to change the wording from typical US Democrat to typical U.S. bigot.
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    Quote Originally posted by BeastOfBologna View Post
    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Bill Maher is very, very much a typical run-of-the-mill mainstream US Democrat. He's a good entertainer, but every vantage he presents as his own comes straight out of the DNC's propaganda machine ─ the only difference being that he freely uses expletives.
    I have to disagree with that assessment, Aragorn, unless you are willing to change the wording from typical US Democrat to typical U.S. bigot.
    Is there a difference? I mean, anyone who toes the party line as meticulously as he does ─ whether it's the blue party line or the red party line ─ and cannot talk about anything other than US politics is by definition a bigot in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    In fact, he was on CNN the other night repeating the right wing lie that CRT = teaching white kids to be ashamed, and that it’s being taught in school.

    He’s in the final stages of his metamorphosis from “moderate” hack to full on right winger…a slow motion Tucker Carlson with less talent
    I guess we can agree Donk, that even arseholes have talent. Personally, I think Carlson is channeling a something that shall be unnamed. So it isn't really 'his' talent.

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    Is there a difference?
    In too many cases no ... the definitions shifted in the 60's though, exemplified by President Lyndon Johnson, "I have lost the Democratic party for a generation!" (Fractured paraphrase) when he helped pass the civil rights laws. Shortly thereafter, the right began its journey to what it is today.
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    Quote Originally posted by BeastOfBologna View Post
    Personally, I think Carlson is channeling a something that shall be unnamed. So it isn't really 'his' talent.
    Tucker Carlson is one of those people who've got the American flag so far up their ass that the shit starts coming out of their mouth.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    I noticed that Bill Maher, whose opinion I really trust on matters of US politics, has already stated he will be watching whatever conflict takes place in the United States after the 2024 elections from abroad, he's not stupid enough to still be there when the slow-moving right-wing coup finally achieves its aim in whatever form. I think he's absolutely right and this time it's real.
    He’s not going anywhere Chris, every four years there’s always a certain number of celebrities who swear up and down they’re gonna leave the country, and it’s a always hinged upon if the Republican candidate wins. Mark my words, he’ll still be here in the States cracking his wise ass jokes in 2024 and beyond, he’s not leaving all that fame and fortune behind any more than the rest of them.

    It’s all bluff and bluster.

    Also, for what it’s worth I certainly would not recommend him for the go to guy in getting the inside scoop on American politics. Like Aragorn said, when it comes down to it he’ll go party line with whatever political hack the DNC decides to shove down our throats next.

    Personally, Kyle Kulinski is the best one I’ve come across yet. At the very least he’s no hack.
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    Bill Maher is criticised both by the left and right, which tells me, he's doing something right.

    A lot of democrats won't actually come on his show, that is because he is an old-school liberal, that is he believes in equality of opportunity for all and is critical of the far-left agenda, which tends to demonise men and white people, to its own detriment, given that most people in America (or voters to be more precise) will be either white, male or both.

    I also give him Kudos for inviting people on his show that others on the political Left wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole (Jordan Peterson, Trump's erstwhile posse, Ann Coulter, etc...). I think he's funny too, but I understand why many would think he's a sell-out or a political hack.

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    I was just using the metaphor of how lil Tucky used to be on MSNBC before Jon Stewart owned him on Carlson’s own show.

    Maher was on CNN the other day spreading white-wing lies about CRT and “wokeness”…he’s gearing up for a Fox show, I think. Hopefully hbo cancels him, not for his shitty takes, but cuz the boomers that still support him realize what an intolerable unfunny dipshit he is
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    Chris, you are close to the point, but I just think he's an asshole. No respect for anything and he thinks that's funny I guess. He needs to be understood for what he is ... someone with a nice command of bullshit. Jon Stewart is the real deal. Respect for what is right and disdain for what is wrong. Of course, he has that 'other' perspective, he's Jewish, he knows first hand from whence people come. I don't mind criticism of anything I stand for, if it is reasoned and well thought out. Bullshit does not fit that criteria for me.

    Kulinski, as the old saying goes, couldn't find his ass with two hands and a flashlight, much less find the gist (meaning nuance) of an issue which means he is unable to determine good, bad, and/or the truth and/or lies. He's a useless bearer of propaganda.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Bill Maher is very, very much a typical run-of-the-mill mainstream US Democrat. He's a good entertainer, but every vantage he presents as his own comes straight out of the DNC's propaganda machine ─ the only difference being that he freely uses expletives.
    This may have been true for decades, but he been shifting right this year, and even this week is spreading CRT lies and whining about “woke” on CNN…with Fox doing segments heralding his common sense…just a matter of time til he’s yucking it up with Guttfeild! on Rupert Murdoch’s teat…when Jesse fucking Waters’ psyco guest calls you “terrific”, there’s something extremely wrong with you

    https://youtu.be/WfXIVcg1JLI
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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    This may have been true for decades, but he been shifting right this year, and even this week is spreading CRT lies and whining about “woke” on CNN…with Fox doing segments heralding his common sense…just a matter of time til he’s yucking it up with Guttfeild! on Rupert Murdoch’s teat…when Jesse fucking Waters’ psyco guest calls you “terrific”, there’s something extremely wrong with you

    https://youtu.be/WfXIVcg1JLI
    Like all 'actors', he knows where the attention is... that makes him scum in my eyes,
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