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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    ok, Chris, I'll give you this one on the house...He's a little flippant about the meaning of 5,000 years of of societal dysfunction, though
    Hmm? Not sure where you got that one from? Where does he say that?

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    He forgot to mention it, Chris...
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    Dearest Chris, what I'm saying is that squandered wealth, which in my opinion has never actually been squandered, it was stolen and hoarded by the uber wealthy, is not commensurate with lives taken as sport or even as entertainment for public consumption. It misses the point of why people are in the streets united as a 'people', skin color notwithstanding. It is representative of social enlightenment that has for literally thousands of years tried to raise its saintly visage.
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    I wish I could explain what's happening in a concise and cogent way. I cannot.

    Here at home we have been communicating and connecting with family as much as possible and living each day as best we can. There is not much in the way of unrest nearby, even in the urban/suburban area a couple miles away.

    Time will tell.

    A lot of things are coming to a head now, and at the time when we most need a leader who can unite the people we have one who deliberately does the opposite. It's unprecedented and therefore very difficult to predict in terms of outcome.

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    This is from Project Avalon moderator Ken...





    And then there was this tweet below, which turned out completely false.


    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Well, I don't actually know what's going on either, one thing is for sure, there is some sinister agenda behind it and there are probably both state and non-state actors fuelling these riots. My suspicion would automatically fall on the USA's two chief geopolitical rivals, Russia and China. In fact Russia has already had to issue an official denial after an Obama-era state department official accused them of instigating the riots. Personally, I see China as the more likely candidate, given their history of Maoist infiltration and insurgencies in places like India and Nepal.

    I do not see it as very likely that white nationalist elements are behind it, I think this is the Leftist mainstream clutching at straws, having lost control of their favoured Antifa thugs.

    The way I see it, the Left is now reaping in what is has sown, formenting tension between various racial and ethnic groups for decades and supporting violent thugs with a revolutionary agenda.

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    If only people could see the benefits of nonviolent resistance and protesting. That's the only proper way to go about it.

    This has been coming a long time, there's a lot of rage. That doesn't justify hurting people and destroying things though.

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    But lynchings have occurred for centuries...yes, it is a long time in coming. The left doesn't promote violence...it just doesn't. One can't be a progressive and hold a philosophy of 'kill 'em all'.

    My half-sister is hiding in California. I remember in the 60's, I had a close white friend that was in to guns..rifles, shotguns, he even made his own ammunition. In my small town, during the riots in the big cities, we were sequestered to protect ourselves in his house waiting for the rioters to show up. It was patently ridiculous but we were doing it. The thing was, I was going yeah, we'll get 'em and they'll be sorry and the rest of it. But, as I sat there, I was thinking to myself, what the hell is going on, this is ridiculous AND I'm half convinced that what the rioters were doing was righteous.
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    I condemn Antifa's violent actions, but when Trump tries to label as them as terrorists he's just once again trying to divert the attention from the real problems. The problem in USA is the lack of proper leadership and systematic corruption. The media sure as hell hasn't been helping with the situation either.

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    But as Aragorn pointed out...Antifa or professional outside agitators?
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    In my opinion, the deepest undercurrent is being laid bare by Trump. Authoritarian vs Authoritative. Many people are unable to make the distinction. A parental figure (Trump = Ivan the Terrible) that isn't able to understand the devastation of one and the value of the other will inevitably perpetuate the legacy of dysfunction.

    Trump is a walking, talking in the flesh caricature. He has reduced himself to scamming senile senior citizens, it is his last bastion amid the storming of the Bastille.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    But lynchings have occurred for centuries...yes, it is a long time in coming. The left doesn't promote violence...it just doesn't. One can't be a progressive and hold a philosophy of 'kill 'em all'.
    You can't be serious…

    The Left covers a vast spectrum from moderate to extreme. Historically, Leftists were responsible for just as much violence, if not more than right-wingers, that is just a historical fact.

    Even progressives have been guilty of if not promoting, certainly turning a blind eye to violence committed by those on the extremes, if it was their tribe doing it.

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    We're conflating leftist with progressive/liberal...It is why I didn't use that term. Violent leftists are concealing a selfish agenda...they are in it for themselves. A completely different animal. Once could cite Che Guevara, of course, but I never really bought him either. He wasn't a true anything but really a violent anarchist. I suppose it is obvious by now that I'm into Purity...

    Joe Biden is speaking on TV right now...I'm not going to listen to him either...He is not in a position to act as a spokesperson for the truth. It is just an act to be relevant and gain political points...Jesus, nooo.
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    Though he has a good heart he is a flippin' idiot of an orator.
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    Che Guevara is a tame pussycat compared to the big hitters, like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

    Or, I could just lead you to my basement and show you where Leftists tortured people before putting them to death. Some were dissolved in vats of acid whilst still alive.

    This isn't about Left and Right but rather moderate and extremist, human vs inhuman.

    Also, whilst there is no truly far-right government in power today, despite the hysterical rhetoric from the Leftist Mainstream Media (Except for Assad in Syria, who is an avowed National Socialist, but he is leading a failed state and doesn't really count), there are plenty of far-Left governments in power, chief of them the Communist Chinese who clearly have designs on world domination and spreading the Revolution.

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