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    Logical Now Guiding the Noosphere / Collective Mind

    Not long ago I observed within a group dynamics situation, the logical providing the same imo result as a spiritual solution would have, the now moment for myself solution was different altogether, found this surprising and kept watch as such micro and macro wise, this continued to be seen sparodicalllly and slowly moreso the last six moons.

    Very busy atm and felt to kick start this theory anyway.

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    Why do you distinguish logical from spiritual? Do they really have to be different?

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    I can only speak from my perspective Bsbray, if a group of high vibrational, awakened mind known individuals meditated together to find or have the best timeline/choice/response/reaction/result etc, imo they would all get the same answer/download/reply/now choice/best timeline etc, the observation observed is the logical, through differing means also connecting to the highest path as such. As for difference, there is none if mind is known because if not known, logical will respond best able, from another place as such.

    Sorry, lots of words and angles to say something that I find difficult to filter for.

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    Spose the surprise for myself was that the world changing/improving/timeline positive etc would totally come about through the noospheric mind in a spiritual manner moreso.

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    I'm not sure I perfectly understand your theory, forgive me if I miss the mark, but if I understood you correctly I agree with it.

    IMO -

    Anything manifested in the collective reality of humanity will be accepted as logical/reality by the collective mind first. However, if any individual/s' beliefs/perception allows for the manifesting of what seems nonsensical or the miraculous then seeming illogical events can manifest as long as others, who's perception would not support it, are not observing the event. Also, even when any individual/s' perception does allow for the illogical to manifest, the moment their logical mind kicks in the manifested snaps back to the collective's logical reality. When something magical happens, I've learned stay in the moment/wonderment to avoid it collapsing back to normal prematurely.

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    Quote Originally posted by Innocent Warrior View Post
    I'm not sure I perfectly understand your theory........
    You too, eh?

    Actually, I do grok it. Aianawa tends to write in challenging language so, I poke him a bit.
    Last edited by modwiz, 15th July 2016 at 01:00.
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    How I'm reading this is, Aianawa saw some problem resolved within a group of people, and he's taking this as a sign of what's going to happen on a larger scale. And he was making some distinction between logical and spiritual solutions that people could reach, though I'm still not exactly sure what he means by all of that.

    I may be off but that's how I was taking it anyway.

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    Quote Originally posted by Innocent Warrior View Post
    I'm not sure I perfectly understand your theory, forgive me if I miss the mark, but if I understood you correctly I agree with it.

    IMO -

    Anything manifested in the collective reality of humanity will be accepted as logical/reality by the collective mind first. However, if any individual/s' beliefs/perception allows for the manifesting of what seems nonsensical or the miraculous then seeming illogical events can manifest as long as others, who's perception would not support it, are not observing the event. Also, even when any individual/s' perception does allow for the illogical to manifest, the moment their logical mind kicks in the manifested snaps back to the collective's logical reality. When something magical happens, I've learned stay in the moment/wonderment to avoid it collapsing back to normal prematurely.
    That twisted me mind a wee bit, trying to understand but no, for me it was/is something I observed, was able to confirm as new and different ( maybe the new templates or natural evolvement etc ) over time, consistently.

    See your confusion of words and my explaining and will give it another go when I get a better picture into words.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    How I'm reading this is, Aianawa saw some problem resolved within a group of people, and he's taking this as a sign of what's going to happen on a larger scale. And he was making some distinction between logical and spiritual solutions that people could reach, though I'm still not exactly sure what he means by all of that.

    I may be off but that's how I was taking it anyway.
    Ohh, ok, yes that seems closer than where I was coming from, makes sense, thank you.

    @Aianawa - NM my post, sorry for the confusion.

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    Meaning, that in the past a logical conclusion would not have been reached that would have had the same result as the best result.

    Also the more people that know their own mind, results in the noospheric transference resulting in logical results being realised, imo.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    How I'm reading this is, Aianawa saw some problem resolved within a group of people, and he's taking this as a sign of what's going to happen on a larger scale. And he was making some distinction between logical and spiritual solutions that people could reach, though I'm still not exactly sure what he means by all of that.

    I may be off but that's how I was taking it anyway.
    Somewhat Bsbray, on the macro scale, China and Russia and India are of late being more logical from observation, this imo also helps raise the spiritual because spiritual is logical high choice.

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    Here's something from China that's been in the news lately: killing political prisoners and harvesting their organs.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIxE5kZXjsY



    It's good to have a balance of world power, but China is still very authoritarian, blatantly lies about what it's doing all the time and still does barbaric things.

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    Do you really think this is nothing but propaganda, hey. I wonder what the Chinese says about the West and the same kind of thing?
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    Well they play a phone call from an investigator in the video above (though I don't speak Chinese it would be easy to verify at least what is being said) who is posing as a would-be customer demanding that organs be fresh for a transplant, and the doctor says that it's no problem and that they can do the transplant whenever she wants.

    This would be a concern because organs for transplant are supposed to be in very high demand with long waiting lists to receive them, not "same day delivery." Some 600 or so page report is referenced in the above video in association with all of this.

    Also remember that this is the same country that will cut a live baby out of a pregnant woman's body against her will if her family is not permitted to have x number of children, per their 1-child policy. You can't buy a house or a car in China without having an appropriate social rating from the Chinese government. This is all openly admitted. China is authoritarian in a way that most westerners would have a hard time imagining.

    And one more thing, Falun Gong practitioners really are persecuted in China. You can find a lot about this online too, including video footage. Since the Communist Revolution a lot of ancient Chinese culture has been brutally suppressed. What happened during the Cultural Revolution seems pretty well documented. The thing about Mao killing 50 million people may (or may not) be exaggerated, I don't know, but the stereotypical image of a submissive Chinese man or woman is not applicable to the Chinese government itself.


    And yes I'm sure they are pointing out our faults as well.
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    Lol do we look at Schaif who organised the Bolshevik revolution also, an American money man ( german origin ) and talk about what other bad choices, souls around the world were doing in their countries at the same timeline ?.
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