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    Neptune in Aries 2025 – 2039

    Neptune in Aries: Pioneering Visions and Tilting at Windmills

    "Neptune takes about 165 years to transit the whole zodiac and he’s been happily swimming through his own sign of Pisces since 2011. Neptune will transit Aries from 2025 to 2039, spending about 12 and a half years there in total, with a few dips in and out at either end. This represents the start of a new cycle of inspiration and change. Here are the dates for your diary:

    • Enters Aries on 30 March 2025
    • Retrogrades into Pisces on 22 October 2025
    • Re-enters Aries to stay from 26 January 2026
    • Dips into Taurus on 21 May 2038
    • Final visit to Aries from 21 October 2038
    • Enters Taurus to stay on 23 March 2039

    This transit marks the start of a new 165 year cycle where Neptune will begin to dissolve the systems and structures that have become too rigid or riddled with illusions. Its action is subtle so you often don’t see it coming. It seeps in and changes things outside of your awareness. The foundations are dissolved and only when the building collapses do you realise what’s going on.

    The last cycle started in 1861 just after Neptune was discovered in 1846 while it was in Aquarius. This period saw the continued dissolution of the Monarchy, Church, and State and the traditional thinking that went along with them. The challenge came from two directions at once – via science and spirituality – and new ideas surfaced that would reshape the world.

    The science and technology of the industrial revolution was already transforming people’s lives. But then along came Darwin and his theory of evolution which dissolved belief in the Bible as literal truth. This contributed to the collapse in the power of the Church and people began to think for themselves and search for their own spiritual paths.

    Some parts of the Church responded to this by modernising and becoming more liberal. They introduced new ideas and interpretations of the teachings, focusing on the individual’s experience of God rather than obedience to the Bible. Some got involved in social activism and developed missionary movements, and new groups emerged, such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Salvation Army.

    New Age spirituality was also beginning to spread, fed by the growth of spiritualism and mediumship, and the ideas of the New Thought movement. Debunkers also proliferated and many took a scientific approach, such as Arthur Conan Doyle who founded the Ghost Club in 1862 to study paranormal activities. Helena Blavatsky was involved in spiritualism at this time and in 1875 she founded the Theosophical Society, but by this point, Neptune had moved into Taurus.

    Aside: this transit of Neptune in Aries coincided with the Uranus Neptune square in 1868-70. However, spiritualism started under the Uranus Pluto conjunction of 1850, and Theosophy started at the following square in 1876. We’ll look at these alignments later.

    Spiritualism also had strong connections with socialism and new ideas about society were spreading rapidly. Karl Marx made a big impact with his economic theories which eroded political thinking and the foundations of capitalism. The focus began to shift towards the people and the workers and they started to demand improved rights and working conditions.

    The changes that happened at the start of the 1861 cycle were pioneering at the time. But now they’re ripe for change. A new vision is needed.



    Don Quixote sets off on a grand adventure…

    Neptune in Aries could bring pioneering visions that reach into every part of society, with lots of new ideas and progressive thinking. There could be idealistic revolutions and social activism, visionary rebellions, crusades for truth, and religious wars. Wars may be fought based on lies and deception (nothing new there then), or fought with bioweapons, chemicals and viruses.

    Perhaps we’ll see another world war fought on idealistic grounds – a war to save the world, or perhaps a war against climate change, against nature (business as usual), or against a virus (!), or a war against the individual. Imagine the insanity!

    At best, Neptune could inspire compassionate action and leadership that takes us away from the potential for war. But it could just as easily reveal the corruption and weakness of leaders that create power vacuums and trigger war by accident. We may delude ourselves that whatever we’re fighting over, is worth fighting and dying for. But like Don Quixote, we could be tilting at windmills.

    There may also be a massive loss of faith in leadership, a loss of belief in the nation or the system. People could turn away from the system out of disillusionment or even boredom, and lose themselves in escapist pursuits, like gaming or virtual reality. As the system implodes, it’ll create uncertainty and that makes people nervous and prone to do stupid things – like get caught up in ideological battles that lead nowhere. It also makes people vulnerable to manipulation and brainwashing into cult-like activity run by charismatic leaders.

    The best way to approach this transit is to take a more spiritual perspective so you can see through the illusion of power and learn to live with uncertainty. Neptune in Aries may dissolve the illusions that have grown around religion and spirituality, but they could also increase. At worst, this means a further descent into narcissistic, fantasy-based spirituality and self-deception – spiritual materialism and bypassing.

    However, it’s happening at the start of the Jupiter Saturn air cycle, so materialist approaches won’t work for much longer. That means we may be more likely to see a new beginning in religion and perhaps a spiritual renaissance. Maybe the madness of the system will finally break through to the masses and we’ll get that global spiritual awakening everybody keeps talking about.

    Or maybe there’ll just be a great outburst of creativity and imagination with lots of people suddenly writing novels, making movies and being innovative in artistic ways!

    Whatever happens, Neptune in Aries is part of the huge shift in direction currently underway, along with Pluto in Aquarius, Uranus in Gemini, and the air cycle of Jupiter Saturn. This means that decentralisation is unstoppable. No matter how much the globalists try to force their One World plan, it won’t work in the long run. Perhaps Neptune in Aries will reveal the illusory nature of that plan – most likely around the Saturn Neptune conjunction in 2025."


    "The more I see, the less I know for sure." ~ John Lennon

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    "Neptune represents the principle of transcendence, idealism, spirituality, inspiration and imagination. It’s associated with collective dreams and mysticism expressed through art, films, music, religion, and utopian social visions, as well as the intangible and invisible world of chemicals, bacteria and viruses. It dissolves boundaries and structures bringing ecstasy and compassion, but also confusion, illusion, deception and escapism via drugs and madness.

    For more on the Neptune archetype read: Neptune Keywords and Neptune Myths

    As Neptune transits the signs, it reveals what we idealise and look to for redemption or salvation. In Capricorn, it fed the idealisation of corporations and big business, and in Aquarius it idealised science and technology. In Pisces, it appears to be idealising deception itself because we’re all drowning in fake news and propaganda in a crazy-making post-truth hall of mirrors.

    More here: Neptune in Pisces: Disillusionment and Transcendence

    The purpose of this confusion is to wake us up to the reality behind the illusion and help us to remember our true nature as eternal beings. We have a few years left so it’s hard to know how the awakening is going. Perhaps we’ll find out when Neptune moves into Aries. We’ll either wake up and change, or talk ourselves into an idealistic war. Reality will probably land somewhere in the middle.

    Aside from war, the Aries archetype represents fertility and new beginnings, and the creative power of the life force as it surges forward. Aries is a pioneer who wants to take the lead and fight for independence – the hero on a quest for adventure and excitement. At best, he fights for fairness and the underdog, like Robin Hood. At worst, he’s an impetuous berserker.

    More here: Zodiac Myths: The Story Behind Aries

    Historically, Neptune in Aries coincides with rebellions, uprisings and crusades, and the breakup of empires and nations, especially civil wars where the people fight amongst themselves. To get a feel for how this works, let’s explore some of the events from previous transits of Neptune in Aries, some of which also lined up with either Pluto in Aquarius or Uranus in Gemini



    Socrates saves Alcibiades at the Battle of Potidaea in 431 BCE


    Back in 432 – 419 BCE Neptune was in Aries at the height of the ancient Greek city states which were always falling out. The Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta began in 431 BCE and ran for decades. Meanwhile Sophocles’ Oedipus Rex, a tragedy about fate and free will, was first performed in 429 BCE; Democritus developed his atomic theory in 430 BCE, and by 420 BCE Socrates was hard at work in Athens messing with people’s heads and making them think.

    As we saw last time, Neptune was in Aries in 60 – 73 CE at the same time as Pluto in Aquarius when Boudicca and her Iceni tribe revolted against the Romans in Britain. Over in Rome, Christianity was spreading fast, despite persecution, and even after Nero accused them of starting the Great Fire of Rome in 64 CE. There was more chaos and civil war in 68 after Nero committed suicide and they had four emperors in one year. In Palestine there was a Jewish uprisingagainst the Romans in 66, and Josephus wrote his history of the Jewish War which became a major source on Jesus.

    Fast forward to 388 – 401 by which time Christianity had become the official imperial religion of the Roman Empire in 391 and Theodosius prohibited all other pagan cults and worship. This led to the destruction of the Sarapeum, a temple in Alexandria dedicated to Serapis. In 397–400, St Augustine wrote his Confessions about his conversion to Christianity.

    Neptune was in Aries in 879 – 892 during the reign of Alfred the Great, king of Wessex in ancient Britain, who was having a spot of bother with the Danes. In 886 he recaptured London and signed a treaty with Guthrum formalising the kingdoms where the Danelaw would operate. Alfred rebuilt the city and introduced reforms to encourage education and learning, and created a small fleet of ships to fight naval battles against the pesky Vikings.

    Jumping forward to 1206 – 1219 Neptune was in Aries at the start of the shift into the last Jupiter Saturn air cycle – similar to now. The Christian Crusades were in full swing, having started when Pluto was in Aries (of course!), and in 1206, Genghis Khan began his conquest of Eurasia. This period also saw the founding of various monastic orders, such as the Franciscans in 1209 and the Dominicans in 1216.



    Wat Tyler and the revolting peasants

    Neptune was next in Aries in 1370 – 1383 during the Hundred Years War between England and France which started in 1337 when Pluto was in Aries. It ran through the whole of this period and ended in 1453 when Neptune was in Libra. The Catholic Church split in 1378 and there were two rival popes until 1417. The Church also came under attack from 1377 by John Wycliffe, an English theologian who criticised abuses and orthodox doctrine, foreshadowing Protestantism. He completed the first translation of the Bible into English in 1382.

    Over in England, there was a Peasant’s Revolt in 1381, seeking reform and rights and an end to serfdom. Meanwhile, at some time during the 1370s, the story of Robin Hood began to circulate – a tale of a classic Aries character.

    In 1534 – 1547 Neptune was in Aries along with Pluto in Aquarius and just after Uranus in Gemini. This was the period that saw Henry VIII break from Rome and declare himself supreme head of the Church of England in 1534. This led to the dissolution of the monasteries in 1536 and the destruction of religious relics and churches, and endless fighting between Catholics and Protestants.

    Martin Luther, who started the Reformation in 1517 under Neptune in Aquarius, completed his translation of the Bible into German in 1534, and died in 1546 at the end of this period. Meanwhile, Pope Paul III established the Roman Inquisition to flush out Protestants and began a Counter-Reformation at the Council of Trent in 1545.

    In the 1540s Valerius Cordus, a German physician and botanist, wrote Dispensatorium, the first pharmacopeia covering medicinal plants and minerals and how to make drugs, published in 1546. He’s also credited with discovering ether in 1540, which was used in pain relief for surgery – and for getting as high as a kite!

    Next, Neptune was in Aries in 1697 – 1711, with a slight overlap with Uranus in Gemini at the start. This period saw lots of fighting and rebellions in Europe over various things, as per usual, including the War of Spanish Succession in which England took Gibraltar in 1704 to establish a naval base against Spain. However, England was getting tired of fighting the Scots, and in 1707 the Act of Union formed a new entity called Great Britain, unifying England and Scotland. In 1708, Jeremy Collier published his Ecclesiastical History of Great Britain and upset the Protestants.



    Louis Pasteur looks at germs

    Finally, Neptune was in Aries in 1861 – 1874 along with Uranus in Gemini, when the US Civil War divided the nation into north and south, fighting over state powers and the abolition of slavery. It ran from 1861-65 and featured Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address in 1863, which announced that all men are created equal. In 1862, the Homestead Act opened up the frontiers and allowed claims on land owned by the native population – so much for all men being equal.

    Slavery was abolished in the US in 1865 and ex-slaves gained full citizenship in 1866 under the Civil Rights Act. Adult males gained voting rights in 1870 – the women would have to wait a lot longer. But this period also gave rise to the formation of the KKK in 1865. Elsewhere, the Red Cross was founded in Switzerland in 1863, and in 1866 Dr Barnardo founded his home for vulnerable children, and in Britain, the Trades Union Congress, the first national union for workers, was established in 1868.

    Louis Pasteur, one of the fathers of germ theory, invented pasteurisation to destroy bacteria and patented the process in 1865. This inspired Joseph Lister to develop antiseptic dressings for use in surgery. In 1866, the Swedish chemist Alfred Nobel, invented dynamite, and in 1869, Dimitri Mendeleyev published his periodic table of elements, the invisible building blocks of all things.

    Although photography already existed, the first colour photograph using the three-colour method was made in 1861. Forerunners to later developments in film came in 1866 when the zoetrope was introduced as a toy where a drum spins to animate an image, based on earlier stroboscopic discs. And in 1868, flip books appeared, called a Kineograph, or ‘moving picture’.


    For real life excitement, there was the showman and hoaxer, PT Barnum who started his Grand Travelling Museum, Menagerie, Caravan & Hippodrome in 1870, a travelling circus featuring freaks and animals, sometimes known as the Greatest Show on Earth. Or you could embark on the first luxury liner, RMS Oceanic, which was also launched in 1870. Other notable developments in art, literature and science include:

    • James Clerk Maxwell formulated his Equations in On Physical Lines of Force in 1861, and published his Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism in 1873
    • Victor Hugo published Les Misérables in 1862
    • The Luncheon on the Grass by Edouard Manet was exhibited in 1863, causing public outrage over nudity
    • Lewis Carroll published Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland in 1865
    • Dostoevsky published Crime and Punishment in 1866
    • Marx published Das Kapital in 1867
    • Tolstoy published his epic War and Peace in 1869
    • Darwin published The Origin of Species just before this transit in 1859, but followed up with The Descent of Man in 1871
    • And in 1872, Nietzsche published The Birth of Tragedy, and Monet painted Impression, Sunrise which inspired the name of the Impressionist movement"




    Impression, Sunrise by Monet
    "The more I see, the less I know for sure." ~ John Lennon

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    "Neptune represents the principle of transcendence, idealism, spirituality, inspiration and imagination. It’s associated with collective dreams and mysticism expressed through art, films, music, religion, and utopian social visions, as well as the intangible and invisible world of chemicals, bacteria and viruses. It dissolves boundaries and structures bringing ecstasy and compassion, but also confusion, illusion, deception and escapism via drugs and madness.
    Cool stuff!
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