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    Quote Originally posted by enjoy being View Post
    Interesting in his latest 2, well the first one of, he mentions early on, how some of his viewers have been telling him he has been getting a bit morbid of late.
    Face palm at how some of these people just want to hear about unicorns and rainbows tickling their fancies.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/SteveJu...0&pbjreload=10


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNXA-77CutA


    Okay I'll put up the second one of his 2 uploads today.

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    this guy is good...I never studied much the midpoint (I think he is referring to the Midheaven or 10th house in natal chart) didn't seem too important in relationships but it is considered a focal point...usually of a career or business context...the composite chart is the comparison of two different charts...I think that's what he meant.

    all true...interesting sidenote is the thing about monogamy...some birds do better than humans....

    Another thing that is interesting is that Trump has a majority of planetary influences in his 4th quadrant (I guess you could say) I believe his Sun sign and quite a few others are in his 10th house...it is an unusual chart...I probably have never seen one like his.
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    Quote Originally posted by enjoy being View Post
    Well that African American minister just blew up the church with that speech, making some of those stuffy royals look a bit uncomfortable?


    https://heavy.com/news/2018/05/micha...s-gifs-tweets/
    lol...i'm thinkin' you are right
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    When it comes to astrology and everything else regarding the truth...
    I'd rather hear the unpleasant truth than a sugary lie or delusions.

    Truth may be painful to understand at first, but it is the salvation for everything.


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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    When it comes to astrology and everything else regarding the truth...
    I'd rather hear the unpleasant truth than a sugary lie or delusions.

    Truth may be painful to understand at first, but it is the salvation for everything.

    yup...

    here's a weirder thing about Trump's chart in my opinion:

    His overwhelming influence is in his 10th, 11th, and 12th houses... signifying 'strong' currents in self-awareness, self-perception, business, of course and "powers" For good or evil...I think we know which way the wind blows...
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    I wouldn't equate selfishness for evilness always. Trump is definitely narcissistic, but that's a different thing than psychopathy. Psychopathy I would definitely equate with evil tendencies in most cases. I'm not a qualified psychologist, but I do know my fair share about human psychology. Hillary Clinton is a certified psychopath, because to her human lives don't matter. From Trump I get the impression that he loves his country, but his own biases and faults make him act in stupid ways. It doesn't help to be a bigot and a womanizer either. In some ways he is "smart", but then again he shows signs of being dumb. Psychopaths like Hillary Clinton are highly intelligent and dangerous, Trump isn't like that. Comparing the two of them isn't very fruitful anyways, because it's like comparing two different kind of trash cans.

    It would be hard to say if Putin is a psychopath, because for some reason it's hard for me to get a reading on him. I don't get the psycho vibe even though he is an iron willed and cold-hearted killer, but he too loves his country even though like Trump he acts in his own selfish ways. Then again, he is probably much worse than Trump because it doesn't take much to get yourself killed in Russia if you oppose him.

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    Hi Wind,

    I appreciate what you're saying but it goes much much deeper than selfishness...if you look at the flip side of that notion of selfishness. A selfish person can be self absorbed, neurotic, cautious, or simply niggled. That's the light side

    Now let's look at selfishness from the darkside... I can think of only one example of the selfish darkside... "- other than me. -"

    Contempt for the other, a dismissal of the other, a hatred for the needs of the other, to hold a notion of owed obsequiousness from the other, a complete unawareness of the needs of another beyond their exploitable properties/needs. I guess that was maybe more than one.

    These characteristics come very very close to describing the psychopath. Narcissism is almost a requirement for a diagnosis of psychopathy...in ways they are indistinguishable
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    Selfishness is a cancer on this planet, with that I can agree.

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    yes, no doubt that is true...
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    We're all selfish to some extent and there can be a healthy amount of that too. However, some people are on the other end of the spectrum.

    Service to self vs. service to others.

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    The four attributes of; service to self - negative and positive vs service to others - negative and positive.

    In some ways the service to others negative is the most dangerous of the two negatives.

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    Could you expand on that?

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    Well I first read about it within the Law of One material which was a while back, but it was quite well laid out to me. Another aspect then to look at is the notion of service vs servitude, but that is another thing.
    The service to others negative, would have people like benevolent dictators, or even some parents. Where the person believes they know best and want to help others by forcing upon them 'lessons' for their own good. Philanthropy can be a word these sorts of people bestow on themselves to justify their position.
    I call it the most dangerous because of the psychology of it. A service to self negative will be quite obvious to others in comparison, and their wake of destruction is not always, but most likely, only going to affect others as a by-product of their selfishness.
    Service to others negative has others as a primary target, and thinking they know best is the selfishness.As well as it not always being obvious to the 'others' in the cross hairs, the thing can perpetuate for quite some time. Part of the mechanics can be they may also be very scared and unbalanced and are forcing their fears on others.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Could you expand on that?
    Social justice warriors...co-dependence... ? I think EB might agree with...

    I just saw the post and want to comment on parents imposing lessons...that is one of the most misguided parental practices that I have ever confronted...and it is ubiquitous practice...One of the reasons the world is crashing down in my estimation
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Social justice warriors...co-dependence... ? I think EB might agree with...

    I just saw the post and want to comment on parents imposing lessons...that is one of the most misguided parental practices that I have ever confronted...and it is ubiquitous practice...One of the reasons the world is crashing down in my estimation
    There's the balance as a parenthead. I forget where I read the notion about a child being born as already perfect and knowing or equipped, and that parents and the world then set about passing on their fears and understandings of inequality.
    "Come child, let me bestow upon you knowledge of all that is bad in this world." It is difficult to ever know if an unadulterated child would shine by itself.
    Because there are things like the Lord of the Flies. Which in fact, could be false, it is just a story. Though, animal farm is another story sort of saying the same things. Are children prone to selfishness and gluttony and all these things? Perhaps.

    Maybe the 'parent' does have a job? How much of it is them transferring their own fears and experiences? You can't put an old head on new shoulders as they say. And the parental heart attachment will make the parent want to save their child.


    One more bit, and I'll step back again. Just managed to track down the webpage I stumbled across 10 or 12 years ago that described a form of service vs servitude. It was quite synchronistic to me at the time because of the clothing it wears, one of my early internet lessons about differentiating between the message and the messenger.
    https://www.luisprada.com/service_and_servitude/
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    Perhaps I can only speak from my own experience. As a highly empathic person I've always unconsciously put others ahead of me, because that is how I am built as a being. I don't want to impose my will on others though and I know that ultimately I cannot change anyone else. All I can do is just to offer my help and lending ear, in case it might help. I have had to learn to be more selfish so that others wouldn't run over me, but even then sometimes I feel a bit conflicted about that if you know what I mean. Am I being selfish or am I just selfish enough, am I doing enough or too little for others? Those are the kind of questions I tend to ask myself from time to time.

    On the other end of the spectrum would be psychopathic people who are highly service to self oriented beings. They always put themselves above others, because the universe revolves around them and not the other way around. They think that they are more cunning and intelligent and in many cases they actually are, because generally people can be very gullible. Psychopaths prey on people like that. They think that their victims deserve all the crap they inflict on them because they are weaker and less intelligent beings. "They should have known better."

    So we might think that highly empathic people who are helpers are more oriented towards service to others, meanwhile evil and psychopathic people are oriented service to self in the highest possible way. Then there are the rest of the people who have a little bit of both qualities, but they aren't really polarized in either direction. The "normal" folks, if there really are such. Joe Sixpacks.

    We can and should serve others, but we shouldn't sacrifice ourselves or be anyone else's slave. Serving others is a highly noble goal, but you also must take good care of yourself too so that you are able to help others. Nothing else will ever you bring you greater satisfaction than giving and that way you will also be receiving too. That is the universal law.
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