Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 61

Thread: Zionism Is Racism

  1. #16
    Retired Member United States
    Join Date
    3rd April 2017
    Location
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Posts
    1,354
    Thanks
    1,553
    Thanked 5,535 Times in 1,305 Posts
    By the way, in my opinion, God does not have a religion, and certainly does not have "a chosen people."

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to WantDisclosure For This Useful Post:

    Dumpster Diver (10th April 2018), Elen (9th April 2018)

  3. #17
    Retired Member
    Join Date
    14th September 2013
    Posts
    123
    Thanks
    1,293
    Thanked 699 Times in 123 Posts
    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post

    But the gist of the discussion was that Hitler had proposed some plan to evacuate the Jews from Germany, but the Balfour Declaration stood in the way of it because the Zionists wanted the state of Israel.
    I assume you're referring here to the Haavara Agreement/Transfer.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/haavara
    http://www.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Mi...20-%203231.pdf

    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    On the website Republic Broadcasting dot org, there is posted ten hours of free audio files posted by John Stadtmiller of The National Intel Report on the topic of Zionism.
    In case anyone is interested in Stadtmiller (who is the subject of the OP) people might like to know about his perspective of the world.

    He's a patriot and darling of the militia movement, and was a speaker - alongside Holocaust deniers and anti semites such as Texe Marrs,
    Ingrid Zundel and Frederick Toben at a American Free Press/Barnes review conference in 2006 (which was basically a hate-fest directed
    primarily at - yes, you’ve guessed it - the Jews.)
    http://www.americanfreepress.net/AFP_2006_conference.pdf

    And of course, his work is featured widely sites such on St*rmfr*nt and V*nguard News.

    Just so you know

  4. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to tarka the duck For This Useful Post:

    Dumpster Diver (9th April 2018), Elen (9th April 2018), palooka's revenge (10th April 2018)

  5. #18
    Retired Member
    Join Date
    14th September 2013
    Posts
    123
    Thanks
    1,293
    Thanked 699 Times in 123 Posts
    Quote Originally posted by palooka's revenge View Post
    In defense of KT I find chilling parallels between Zionism and Nazism.
    I’d like to hear more about your thoughts on this … particularly bearing in mind that the European parliament includes “Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis” in its “Working Definition of Antisemitism”

    https://european-forum-on-antisemiti...nglish-english
    Last edited by tarka the duck, 9th April 2018 at 13:54. Reason: spelling ...

  6. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to tarka the duck For This Useful Post:

    Dumpster Diver (9th April 2018), Elen (9th April 2018), palooka's revenge (10th April 2018)

  7. #19
    Retired Member United States
    Join Date
    3rd April 2017
    Location
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Posts
    1,354
    Thanks
    1,553
    Thanked 5,535 Times in 1,305 Posts
    David Icke does exhaustive research and then explains his findings in his own words. He is very articulate.

    Here is a posting on rense.com of a David Icke newsletter:

    The Zionist Elephant In The Room

    The David Icke Newsletter

    The Elephant In The Room...


    Name:  Elephant.jpg
Views: 130
Size:  44.1 KB

    ... BUT SEE IT AND YOU'RE 'RACIST'


    Hello all ...

    The political creed of Zionism has big ears and a long trunk and I think it's time that was pointed out. It also stampedes through our lives at every level and that needs to be said, too.

    It has created a pincer-movement on the human mind by hijacking staggering amounts of political, corporate, banking and media power on one side and by using the fear of being called 'anti-Semitic' if you dare to state the bloody obvious.

    They have been able to do this by equating in public perception that Zionism = Jewish people. It does not. Zionism is a political creed introduced by the House of Rothschild to advance the goals of the Illuminati families that are largely controlled by the Rothschilds.

    When people think of Zionism they think of Jewish people. When they think of Israel they think of Jewish people. That's understandable given the propaganda, but it is seriously misleading and those instant connections need to be broken if we are going to understand what's going on here.

    Zionism means Rothschild just as Israel means Rothschild. When we see the extraordinary number of Zionists in key positions around the world we are looking not at 'manipulating Jews', but manipulating Zionists representing the interests and demands of the Rothschilds.

    Name:  Placard.jpg
Views: 132
Size:  27.4 KB

    Significant numbers of Jewish people are not Zionists and oppose that appalling creed while many Zionists are not Jewish. These include the Christian Zionists and Obama's vice-president, Joe Biden, who told Israeli television 'I'm a Zionist'. Here's the clip if you can stand it ... If, as Biden rightly says, you don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, how can it be a racial rather than a political movement? It can't. It's just made to appear like that to manipulate public perception because opposing Zionism then becomes opposing Jewish people as a whole and the 'you're a racist' card can be played over and over.

    Far from protecting and advancing the interests of the mass of Jewish people it has often been devastating for them and caused millions to be labelled unfairly by the actions of the Zionist elite. On the Jews Against Zionism website one feature highlights how Rothschild Zionism targeted Jews who had lived for generations in Palestine side-by-side with Arabs in peace and harmony:

    'The religious Jews who by virtue of their faith, clearly contradicted Zionist nationalism, and who had lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors for generations, became unwillingly identified with the Zionist cause and their struggle with the Arabs.

    They requested the United Nations that Jerusalem be designated as a defacto international city. They appealed to the diplomatic corps assigned to Jerusalem -- but to no avail. They were hence confronted with the choice of either becoming a part of the Zionist State, which diametrically opposed the interests of Jews as a religion, or abandoning the land of which their forefathers were the first Jewish settlers.

    Let's get this straight. Zionism doesn't give a damn about Jewish people. To the Rothschilds and their Zionist gofers and thugs the Jewish people as a whole are merely cattle to be used and abused as necessary - just like the rest of the human population.

    The networks of the House of Rothschild were behind Hitler and the rise of the Nazi Party in the Rothschild heartland of Germany where they had changed their name from Bauer in 18th century Frankfurt and launched the dynasty that was to control global finance.

    After the war the Rothschilds used public sympathy for Jewish people targeted by the Nazis to press for a homeland in Palestine. This was the alleged reason for the founding of Zionism, but that is only part of it.

    Name:  Rothschild.jpg
Views: 127
Size:  21.2 KB
    Rothschild

    As I show in my books, the campaign to impose a Rothschild fiefdom in Palestine goes back at least to the earlier part of the 19th century and probably long before. It was given a massive boost with the Balfour Declaration in 1917 when the British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour declared in a letter his government's support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

    This letter was sent by Balfour, an inner-circle member of an elite secret society called the Round Table, to Baron (Walter) Rothschild who funded the Round Table.

    Today, Rothschild Illuminati fronts like the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group, Royal Institute of International Affairs, and others, still answer to the Round Table which string-pulls and coordinates from the shadows. This is why Zionists in government are invariably connected with these Rothschild-controlled organisations.

    The Rothschilds funded the early settlers from Europe to relocate in post-war Palestine and they also funded and armed the terrorist groups, like Irgun, which bombed and terrorised Israel into existence in 1948, a campaign which forced 800,000 Palestinians to leave the land of their birth.

    Israel is simply the State of Rothschild and how appropriate that they paid for the construction of the Israeli parliament building, the Knesset, and the Israel Supreme Court. The name Rothschild means Red-shield and it originates with the red shield 'Star of David' symbol (not a Jewish symbol before the Rothschilds) which they displayed on their house in Frankfurt ...

    Name:  Flag.jpg
Views: 128
Size:  4.7 KB
    ... Seen it somewhere before ...?

    The very flag of Israel tells you who owns it. There are many reasons why the Rothschilds and their allies wanted to hijack Palestine and one was to keep the Middle East in a state of disruption and turmoil from which a global war can eventually be triggered to usher in the New World Order of world government dictatorship.

    The creation of Israel is a means not an end and the Rothschilds will be quite happy to leave the Jewish population to their fate if it suits them. After all, they've done it before.

    The world's second biggest Zionist population is in the United States and given that both America and Israel are controlled by the Rothschild networks it is not hard to fathom why that slither of land in the Middle East receives around a third of all US overseas aid.

    An average $3 billion a year is handed to the State of Rothschild as a result of decisions made by American administrations that are always, 'Republican' or 'Democrat', controlled by the Rothschilds. One hand of the network hands over the cash to another.

    This explains why the United States never talks about the arsenal of nuclear weapons stockpiled by one of the world's most trigger-happy states. Israel refuses to discuss them and the American policy, recently reconfirmed by Obama, is never to ask or bring up the subject.

    The last two US administrations are testament to the extent of Zionist (Rothschild) control of America and thus its foreign policy, not least with regard to Iraq, the former land of Sumer and Babylon, which according to some just happens to be part of the 'Greater Israel' that the Zionists seek to secure.

    The 'Bush' government was the glove-puppet of the so-called neo-cons, or neoconservatives, whose only political philosophy in truth was the interests of Zionism. At the heart of the Rothschild-controlled neocon cabal were Richard Perle (Zionist), Paul Wolfowitz (Zionist), Dov Zakheim (Zionist), Douglas Feith (Zionist), John Bolton (Zionist), Lewis Libby (Zionist), the list goes on and on. These were the people who orchestrated the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq on behalf of the Rothschilds.

    Name:  Cartoon.jpg
Views: 127
Size:  64.0 KB

    Economic policy was dictated through the years of Reagan-Bush, Father Bush, Clinton and most of Boy Bush by Alan Greenspan (Zionist), chairman of the privately-owned US 'central bank', the Federal Reserve. Privately owned, that is, by the Rothschilds through a network of front people and organisations.

    Greenspan introduced the policies of deregulation that culminated, as designed, in the free-for-all frenzy of greed by banks and financial markets in general that led to the crash in the last weeks of the Bush presidency. Greenspan resigned from the Fed before the consequences of his long-term game-plan exploded in lost homes, jobs and savings. He was replaced by Bernard Bernanke (Zionist).

    Greenspan was enthusiastically supported in his deregulation through successive administrations by Treasury Secretaries in the Clinton years, Robert E. Rubin (Zionist) and Larry Summers (Zionist), and also by the President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the most powerful in the Fed cabal, Timothy Geithner (Zionist).

    When Mr. Fake Change won the presidency amid the gathering financial crisis, caused by all of the above, and others, he appointed Geithner as his Treasury Secretary and Summers as head of the White House Economic Council. Both are protégés of Robert Rubin who resigned from Citigroup earlier this year for his role in 'advising' it to the brink of collapse.

    Obama's Budget Director is Peter Orszag (Zionist) who headed the company that advised the Icelandic Central Bank in the prelude to the crash of Iceland's financial system. This has led to Iceland being fast-tracked into the Rothschild-created European Union to 'save' its economy. Orszag also advised the Russian Treasury when state-owned assets and resources were handed to Zionist oligarchs, including Roman Abramovich who is famous in the UK as the owner of Chelsea Football Club.

    Add to all this the fact that the World Bank is headed by Robert Zoellick (Zionist), who replaced Paul Wolfowitz (Zionist), and that the International Monetary Fund, or IMF, is run by Dominique Strauss-Kahn (Zionist).

    Anyone still doubt that the Rothschild network controls global finance and therefore the lives and choices of virtually every man, woman and child on the planet?

    The Rothschilds are at the heart of the Obama White House in the form of Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel (Zionist) and Chief White House Advisor David Axelrod (Zionist). Emanuel has served in the Israeli army and his father was an operative with the Rothschild terrorist group, Irgun, as it bombed Israel into being. This included the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946 that killed 91 people.

    Name:  Obama.jpg
Views: 118
Size:  45.0 KB

    Rahm Emanuel also worked closely Robert E. Rubin (Zionist) during the Clinton years to impose NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement, which was designed from the start to be a stepping-stone to a North American, and eventually an American Union, along the lines of the EU. The Zionist world is very small indeed.

    David Axelrod ran Obama's election campaigns and now oversees his every word slavishly read from his teleprompter screens. There is little that Obama says that his Zionist handlers don't tell him or give him to say.

    They have also ensured that US policy for Iran and the Persian Gulf is headed by Dennis Ross (Zionist) who has served Israeli interests in successive American administrations. There will not be a cigarette paper behind the scenes between him and that trio of tyranny, Netanyahu, Lieberman, Barak, the prime minister, foreign minister and defence minister of Israel. Rothschild stooges, in other words.

    Zionist Mandelson works for the pyramid

    The most influential figure by far in the current British government is Peter Mandelson (Zionist) who continues to amass more titles and powers from the beleaguered Prime Minister Gordon Brown. Mandelson is an insider operative for the Rothschilds and has frequently accepted hospitality from his close friend and associate, Nathaniel Rothschild. This week Mandelson called for the UK to join the (Rothschild) single European currency.

    Meanwhile, the hapless and hopeless Gordon Brown did as he was told and appointed Ivan Lewis (Zionist) to be minister of state with responsibility for, wait for it ... British policy on the Middle East. Lewis, vice-chair of the Labour Friends of Israel, was an outspoken supporter of Israel's slaughter of the innocent in Gaza this year. Lewis said of his new job:

    'My responsibility for the Middle East peace process is particularly poignant. I have never hidden my pride at being Jewish or my support for the State of Israel.'

    What chance do the Palestinians have of fairness and justice? None.

    In France, as I mentioned last week, President Sarkozy (Zionist) is a long-time asset of Mossad, the Rothschild enforcement agency masquerading as the intelligence agency of Israel. Mossad has been implicated in terror attacks and other horrors all over the world because it represents the Rothschild global agenda and not the people of Israel.

    Name:  Nicoleon.jpg
Views: 121
Size:  26.7 KB

    Look also at the Zionist (Rothschild) control of the entertainment and media industry in the form of people like Fox News President Peter Chernin (Zionist); Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Zionist); Walt Disney CEO Robert Igor (Zionist); Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (Zionist); Warner Brothers Chairman Barry Meyer (Zionist); CBS CEO Leslie Moonves (Zionist); MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Zionist); and NBC/Universal Studios CEO Jeff Zucker (Zionist).

    Name:  CBS.jpg
Views: 115
Size:  56.5 KB

    The Rothschilds control America

    The Los Angeles Times columnist Joel Stein (Zionist) wrote an article proclaiming that Americans who don't think Jews (Zionists) control Hollywood are just plain 'dumb'. Stein went on:

    'The Jews are so dominant. I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies. But lo and behold, even one of that six, AMC President Charles Collier, turned out to be a Jew! ... As a proud Jew, I want America to know of our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood.'

    And not only Hollywood. Shahar Ilan, a daily features editor with the leading Israeli newspaper, Ha'aretz, wrote: 'The Jews do control the American media. This is very clear, and claiming otherwise is an insult to common knowledge'. Zionists have truly massive influence over the news media with the likes of Rupert Murdoch (Zionist) with his vast television and newspaper empire, and the Sulzberger family (Zionists) who own the New York Times. The list is enormous across television, radio, newspapers and the Internet.

    When you look at the number of Zionists in key positions of power and control in politics, banking, corporations, news media, Hollywood and so on, it is sobering to think that Jewish people are just 1.7% of the American population and many of those won't be Zionists.

    What if the same situation happened with Arab people or Chinese, Irish or even black Americans? There would be an outcry and questions asked about how one group can have so much influence over the lives of a whole nation, indeed many nations. And I stress again that, in the end, this control system leads to the Rothschilds and the spider they represent at the centre of the web.

    Name:  Abrams.jpg
Views: 112
Size:  8.7 KB
    B'nai Brith Front Man Harry Abrams


    The Rothschilds established B'nai B'rith in 1843 to prevent exposure of the global Zionist networks. The ' BB' is an offshoot of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry and operates worldwide to brand as 'anti-Semitic' anyone who exposes the Rothschild operation.

    In 1913, B'nai B'rith launched an organisation specifically to target and defame researchers, in fact anyone, who questions, criticises or exposes Israel and the ever-gathering Zionist influence across the world. With typical irony they called it the Anti-Defamation League, better known as the ADL, and claimed it was there to protect Jewish people. As Plato said: 'This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector'.

    The ADL is, in fact, a sub-agency of the Israeli (Rothschild) centre for covert operations, the Mossad, which, according to a former agent, has the motto: 'By way of deception, thou shalt do war'. If that isn't the motto, it should be. The ADL is behind the introduction of 'hate laws' which are aimed at silencing dissent against Zionism or Israel. The Jewish academic, Noam Chomsky, said this of the ADL in his book, Necessary Illusions:

    'The ADL has virtually abandoned its earlier role as a civil rights organization, becoming "one of the main pillars" of Israeli propaganda in the U.S., as the Israeli press casually describes it, engaged in surveillance, blacklisting, compilation of FBI-style files circulated to adherents for the purpose of defamation, angry public responses to criticism of Israeli actions, and so on.

    These efforts, buttressed by insinuations of anti-Semitism or direct accusations, are intended to deflect or undermine opposition to Israeli policies, including Israel's refusal, with U.S. support, to move towards a general political settlement.'

    The American rabbi, Michael Lerner, agrees:

    'The ADL lost most of it credibility in my eyes as a civil rights organization when it began to identify criticisms of Israel with anti-Semitism, still more when it failed to defend me when I was receiving threats to my life from right-wing Jewish groups because of my critique of Israeli policy toward Palestinians (it said that these were not threats that came from my being Jewish, so therefore they were not within their area of concern).'

    Firstly, the ADL has never been a civil rights organisation. Its very purpose has been to take them away. Secondly, it is not there to defend anyone, Jewish or otherwise. It's there to represent the sadistic interests of the House of Rothschild and the wider Illuminati.

    Name:  Censorship.jpg
Views: 113
Size:  41.4 KB


    It is so important that people are aware of this background to Zionism because at the moment it is basically speeding along unchallenged through lack of awareness and fear of being dubbed 'racist'.

    Well, I couldn't care less what people say about me with regard to this or anything else. I want to uncover the truth, not win a popularity contest.

    Please, let's circulate this information as effectively as we can and bring it from the shadows to public attention. We must refuse to be intimidated into silence over this.

    Martin Luther King said: '... we must straighten our backs and work for our freedom. A man can't ride you unless your back is bent.'

    It is time to stand up, in every sense.

    http://www.rense.com/general86/zelephant.htm

  8. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to WantDisclosure For This Useful Post:

    Dumpster Diver (9th April 2018), Elen (9th April 2018), palooka's revenge (10th April 2018)

  9. #20
    Retired Member United States
    Join Date
    29th March 2018
    Posts
    113
    Thanks
    292
    Thanked 803 Times in 150 Posts
    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    By the way, in my opinion, God does not have a religion, and certainly does not have "a chosen people."
    I haven't read the entire thread and it may have already been mentioned but there are also Christian Zionists.

    Sometimes it helps to broaden your sources and read what people have to say that you don't agree with so you get a more complete picture.

  10. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to GraceKB For This Useful Post:

    Aragorn (10th April 2018), Dumpster Diver (9th April 2018), Elen (9th April 2018), Emil El Zapato (10th April 2018), palooka's revenge (10th April 2018), tarka the duck (11th April 2018)

  11. #21
    Retired Member United States
    Join Date
    29th March 2018
    Posts
    113
    Thanks
    292
    Thanked 803 Times in 150 Posts
    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    No, I'm not.

    Jews are associated with Judaism.

    Zionists are associated with the belief in a superior race.

    The word "cult" will only muddy the waters and take the thread off-topic.

    I did not know about Judaism vs. Zionism until I listened to Jeff Rense's program, where he had Jews as guests who explained this to the listening audience.

    Zionists abuse Jews as much as they abuse "Gentiles."

    This is a complex research topic.
    It is complex and I probably muddied the water further by mentioning Christian Zionists, lol.

    When you use Jeff Rense as a source for a discussion on Zionism keep in mind that Rense promotes David Duke who is both anti Semitic and racist.

  12. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to GraceKB For This Useful Post:

    Aragorn (9th April 2018), Dumpster Diver (9th April 2018), Elen (9th April 2018), Emil El Zapato (10th April 2018), palooka's revenge (10th April 2018), tarka the duck (11th April 2018)

  13. #22
    Senior Member Emil El Zapato's Avatar
    Join Date
    3rd April 2017
    Location
    Earth I
    Posts
    12,191
    Thanks
    36,640
    Thanked 43,100 Times in 11,915 Posts
    KT has obviously practiced her cover...hate is hate is hate. Amen. Period. Finis. The End. Done deal. End of Story. télos. Jiéshù.

    Honestly, KT, after reading your sources my interest in alternative information is almost dead. If you believe the stuff you post, who is to say I am any closer to the truth with even a developed sense of critical reasoning. I was watching youtube the other night and I felt like puking watching the likes of Linda Moulton Howe whom I have always considered a very professional researcher but if any of it is obviousl bullsh*t, why not all of it.
    “El revolucionario: te meteré la bota en el culo"

  14. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Emil El Zapato For This Useful Post:

    Aragorn (10th April 2018), Dreamtimer (19th April 2018), Dumpster Diver (10th April 2018), GraceKB (10th April 2018), palooka's revenge (10th April 2018), tarka the duck (11th April 2018)

  15. #23
    Retired Member United States
    Join Date
    2nd December 2015
    Location
    American Southwest (currently)
    Posts
    2,602
    Thanks
    12,814
    Thanked 13,156 Times in 2,620 Posts
    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    By the way, in my opinion, God does not have a religion, and certainly does not have "a chosen people."
    Which God are we talking about? The “God” Yahweh is an ET, not the source creator. Most likely a “pre-adamite” as David Wilcock would call him, He/she/it “recruited” the “Jews” to be his chosen people to help drive this timeline. The Bible was written for them, and then repurposed for “Christians”. Those “Jews” are mostly Ashkenazi who numbered only some 300-500 before 1000AD, but now comprise some 80% of overall “Jews” worldwide. The Ashkenazi are a recruiting pool for the high caste Luciferians especially since their average IQ is some 15-20 pts higher than the general population pool.

  16. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Dumpster Diver For This Useful Post:

    Dreamtimer (19th April 2018), Emil El Zapato (10th April 2018), palooka's revenge (10th April 2018), WantDisclosure (10th April 2018)

  17. #24
    Retired Member
    Join Date
    25th March 2018
    Location
    atlanta
    Posts
    435
    Thanks
    881
    Thanked 2,335 Times in 434 Posts
    Originally Posted by palooka's revenge View Post
    In defense of KT I find chilling parallels between Zionism and Nazism.

    Quote Originally posted by tarka the duck View Post
    I’d like to hear more about your thoughts on this … particularly bearing in mind that the European parliament includes “Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis” in its “Working Definition of Antisemitism”

    https://european-forum-on-antisemiti...nglish-english
    A Story of a Bicycle, the Israeli Army and the Wehrmacht


    The process undergone by German soldiers who served among populations they saw as inferior is exactly the same process undergone by Israeli soldiers in the territories regarding the Palestinians. The difference between events in the German-occupied territories and events in the Israel-occupied territories is not found in the dehumanization process that dulls thought. In that theres no difference. The difference is in the legitimacy the system bestows on the implementation of the conclusions of this dehumanization, with no risk of prosecution.
    As for the European parliament, no comment! Except to say, Haaretz is an Israeli news agency and the writer is a Holocaust historian at Hebrew University. Ironically 20% of Haaretz is owned by German M Dumont Schauberg, son of
    Kurt Neven DuMont, a member of the Nazi party, while his publishing house promoted Nazi ideology.

  18. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to palooka's revenge For This Useful Post:

    Dreamtimer (19th April 2018), Dumpster Diver (10th April 2018), WantDisclosure (10th April 2018)

  19. #25
    Retired Member United States
    Join Date
    3rd April 2017
    Location
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Posts
    1,354
    Thanks
    1,553
    Thanked 5,535 Times in 1,305 Posts
    Here are two key sentences:

    Significant numbers of Jewish people are not Zionists and oppose that appalling creed while many Zionists are not Jewish. These include the Christian Zionists and Obama's vice-president, Joe Biden, who told Israeli television 'I'm a Zionist'.

    http://www.rense.com/general86/zelephant.htm
    Last edited by WantDisclosure, 10th April 2018 at 10:13. Reason: Grammar

  20. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to WantDisclosure For This Useful Post:

    Dumpster Diver (10th April 2018), palooka's revenge (10th April 2018)

  21. #26
    Retired Member United States
    Join Date
    29th March 2018
    Posts
    113
    Thanks
    292
    Thanked 803 Times in 150 Posts
    Keep Trying-

    Are you comfortable with Trump's support of Israel?

  22. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to GraceKB For This Useful Post:

    Dreamtimer (19th April 2018), Dumpster Diver (10th April 2018), Emil El Zapato (10th April 2018), palooka's revenge (10th April 2018), tarka the duck (15th April 2018)

  23. #27
    Retired Member United States
    Join Date
    3rd April 2017
    Location
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Posts
    1,354
    Thanks
    1,553
    Thanked 5,535 Times in 1,305 Posts
    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    Here are two key sentences . . .
    Here is another to-the-point quote:

    Let's get this straight. Zionism doesn't give a damn about Jewish people. To the Rothschilds and their Zionist gofers and thugs the Jewish people as a whole are merely cattle to be used and abused as necessary - just like the rest of the human population.

    http://www.rense.com/general86/zelephant.htm

  24. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to WantDisclosure For This Useful Post:

    Dreamtimer (19th April 2018), Dumpster Diver (10th April 2018), palooka's revenge (10th April 2018)

  25. #28
    Administrator Aragorn's Avatar
    Join Date
    17th March 2015
    Location
    Middle-Earth
    Posts
    20,240
    Thanks
    88,437
    Thanked 80,969 Times in 20,255 Posts

    Lightbulb

    If you keep on going back to the same sources over and over again for your research, then you are inevitably also always going to come across the same rhetoric, and then instead of learning something valuable from what you call your research, you then only end up feeding your own confirmation bias.

    As it just so happens to be, I don't particularly like what the state of Israel is doing to the Palestinians any more than you do — not to mention the preposterous idea that some deity would have given the Israelis the right to occupy said land — but it should already have become crystal clear to you by now that Jeff Rense is merely yet another biased talking head, and one with some questionable connections at that.

    But then again, you seem to like talking heads, and as soon as someone either doesn't agree with your sources or mentions a source that you yourself don't like for whatever reason, you come back at them with a terse knee-jerk defense — sometimes as short as a one-liner — and you stop thanking their posts. And sometimes you simply don't come back with any recourse at all, but then instead you simply ignore them and pretend that they never said anything.

    You called me a brick wall, but the truth is that I am only but a mirror to other people's mindsets and intentions, and that everything pejorative that others have already called me before has so far only ever proven merely a reflection of themselves.

    The truth is the truth, but that doesn't mean that it is guaranteed to be pleasant — especially not when it's a truth about yourself that you've been denying all along. And that's why looking for the truth is not the same thing as looking for affirmation. Can you tell the difference?


    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

  26. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Aragorn For This Useful Post:

    Dreamtimer (19th April 2018), Dumpster Diver (10th April 2018), Elen (11th April 2018), Emil El Zapato (10th April 2018), GraceKB (10th April 2018), palooka's revenge (10th April 2018), tarka the duck (15th April 2018), Wind (10th April 2018)

  27. #29
    Retired Member United States
    Join Date
    29th March 2018
    Posts
    113
    Thanks
    292
    Thanked 803 Times in 150 Posts
    I don't understand why Keep Trying won't answer direct questions like I asked in post #26.

  28. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to GraceKB For This Useful Post:

    Aragorn (10th April 2018), Dreamtimer (19th April 2018), Dumpster Diver (10th April 2018), Emil El Zapato (10th April 2018), tarka the duck (15th April 2018)

  29. #30
    Senior Member Emil El Zapato's Avatar
    Join Date
    3rd April 2017
    Location
    Earth I
    Posts
    12,191
    Thanks
    36,640
    Thanked 43,100 Times in 11,915 Posts
    I'll speculate on that...

    There isn't enough time to post up propaganda and actually dialogue with anyone. I don't like to be unpleasant to people that are really looking and not spreading...but anywho.
    “El revolucionario: te meteré la bota en el culo"

  30. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Emil El Zapato For This Useful Post:

    Aragorn (10th April 2018), Dreamtimer (19th April 2018), Dumpster Diver (10th April 2018), GraceKB (10th April 2018), tarka the duck (15th April 2018)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •