Alt-world books you must have in your library:

**Dreamtimer** · 23rd December 2018, 22:44

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

Just discovered Charles Mann published a new book. The Wizard and the Prophet. It’s about humanity reaching 10 billion and the rammifications/implications.

The Wizard is Norman Borlaug and the Prophet is William Vogt. They had diametrically opposed ideas on how to deal with the issue and both have shaped society.

Charles wrote 1491 and 1493.

On phone now so can link to more later.

I bought this book for myself the other day. Here's a recent discussion.

**Dreamtimer** · 28th December 2018, 21:51

On the video Gio posted here, at the very end the text reads, "Next Episode Part 5:The Vogt interview".

**Dreamtimer** · 4th January 2019, 16:29

Not the same Vogt. The one Ben talks about is an astrophysicist.

**Emil El Zapato** · 5th January 2019, 02:56

I think one of the farthest out there books (non-fiction...supposedly) is the Urantia Book...Wow...that one is either true or someone with the best imagination ever wrote it.