Either way, Bill Ryan doesn't live in a vacuum. First and foremost, he's got moderators and administrators to help him run Project Avalon, and those moderators and administrators are fallible people too. Secondly, there's also the member base. As already referenced in the above paragraph, there are many people there who believe themselves to be without flaws, and whose only reason for their presence on that forum appears to be attacking other members and/or propagandizing and proselytizing whatever cause they support.
One of the people who so vocally chewed me up and spat me out over here at The One Truth for having criticized Bill Ryan ─ which, again, truly was a mistake I myself had been making all along ─ was himself recently temporarily banned from Project Avalon because of how he was hounding other members. But it wasn't the first time that he did that, and he is someone who will never apologize. So he was eventually temporarily banned ─ along with another person who's gone so far off the rails that even the GPS satellites can't find him anymore ─ but he had already been getting away with his bullying for a long time, and the mods let him.
Maybe they didn't know. Maybe they didn't care. Maybe they were siding up with him. But it was happening, and things like that do tend to drive people away from the forum. Even here in our little Shire, we've had people staying away because some other member was hounding them, in spite of our interventions as staff members ─ because we did and do intervene in situations like that. But this is a much smaller forum, and so it's also easier for us to spot a situation like that and to respond right away. Perhaps Project Avalon does not have that luxury, due to its circumference ─ I'm not making excuses for them, but I am saying it like it is. Either way, conflicts between members can and do drive members away.
In any case, there are many variables involved. The atmosphere of a forum is not just a matter of its management, but also of its member base. Again, Bill did make mistakes ─ and, I repeat, some of them were very grave mistakes ─ but he's not solely responsible for how things have evolved over at Project Avalon, and certainly not on account of the so-called alternative community at large.
It is one of the memes within this so-called alternative community that we are all co-creators. But that also means that we are all co-responsible. And the latter is something many people seem to forget ─ if they've even realized it in the first place.
= DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =
Bright side is we may see some nice new faces , yes ?
It's not a community, so much as that it is an audience looking for self-gratification ─ wherever they can get it. And that pisses me off. It annoys me. And so I should really have posted this on the Pissed and Annoyed thread. But then it wouldn't be a reply to you, unless I include a link to your post and mention that it is a reply to you.
Damn, that's too effing complicated, because I haven't even had breakfast yet and it's almost noon. And I'm hungry. And it's hot and sticky today. And I have to pee. So I think I'll just leave this post here, as a direct reply to you. And now I'm off to the kitchen, because I need some food in my stomach.
= DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =