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    I don't believe the American military would go against the people. Even if some of the leaders wanted it to. It's made of Americans who are loyal to the Constitution, not their generals. The generals are not warlords. I just don't believe the soldiers and most of the commanders would ever go along.

    The only people who really want to shoot up their fellow Americans are those who have already stockpiled a bunch of weapons and like to talk about eating 'long pork' They're the same people who I heard talk about "Marching on Washington" with their guns if Obama got re-elected. "I think it could be over in just a few weeks," one fellow said. This is not realistic.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    I don't believe the American military would go against the people.
    Here is the problem:

    The Deep State makes use of contractors.

    They also have access to foreign troops.

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    Eric Prince, head of the biggest contractor around, Blackwater aka Xe aka whatever it's called now is buds with Trump. He wants to set up a private spy network among other things.

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    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    G. Edward Griffin has a website Need to Know dot news.

    On March 5, 2018 he posted an article from The Federalist dot com website written by David Hines and posted there March 1, 2018. Griffin links to the full article. Here is a screenshot from The Federalist dot com post:



    What is "astroturfing"?



    Here is the beginning of the article preceded by G. Edward Griffin's comment:



    This ruse is going to continue until a critical mass of the American public wakes up, and the Deep State realizes they can't fool us anymore.

    Then, they'll stop and try something else.
    Even if this were true, which I seriously doubt...I couldn't find any immediate corroboration or debunking of this statement, but it was noteworthy that the sources reporting it are all full of sh*t..That notwithstanding, why would one side of the debate want to point a finger at the other? Does organized protest imply that children are not dying...hell no!

    Florida Center for Investigative Reporting:

    "The context lost in these conversations is the vast amount of money the National Rifle Association spends for and against Florida’s Congressional delegates and how lopsided the distribution of this money has been.

    In explaining this, many media organizations are counting only money that the NRA has given directly to candidates, such as this TIME story that noted only that Florida’s junior senator, Republican Marco Rubio, received $9,900 from the NRA for his re-election campaign in 2016.

    What TIME and other media haven’t always noted is that the vast majority of NRA money goes to politicians from two NRA-funded political action committees (known as PACs) — National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action and National Rifle Association of America Policy Victory Fund. Through these PACs, the NRA gives money directly to individual political campaigns and spends money for or against specific candidates through “independent expenditures” under federal campaign finance laws.

    The money spent through these PACs dwarfs the money the NRA, as an organization, gives directly to candidates. For example, while the NRA gave $9,900 directly to Rubio for his 2016 Senate campaign, the NRA’s two PACs gave $927,719 to Rubio’s 2010 and 2016 Senate campaigns and $4,500 to his failed 2016 presidential bid in the form of contributions and so-called independent expenditures.

    By contrast, Florida’s senior senator, Democrat Bill Nelson, has not received any contributions from the NRA — but that doesn’t mean NRA money hasn’t affected him. In 2012, when Nelson last ran for re-election, the NRA’s two PACs spent more than $600,000 in advertisements against Nelson through independent expenditures.
    In Florida, as in other states, the NRA spends disproportionately more money through its PACs on Republicans than it does on Democrats. Here’s what members of Florida’s congressional delegation had to say about the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting contrasted with the amount of money NRA PACs have spent for or against each elected official, based on a Florida Center for Investigative Reporting review of Federal Election Commission campaign finance data:

    Republican Senator Marco Rubio:

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $932,219 to Rubio’s 2010 and 2016 Senate and 2016 presidential campaigns in the form of direct contributions or independent expenditures on behalf of the candidate.

    Democratic Senator Bill Nelson

    Bill Nelson

    The NRA’s PACs spent a total of $662,138 in independent expenditures against Nelson’s 2012 Senate

    Republican Representative Matt Gaetz, 1st Congressional District

    Matt GaetzThe NRA’s PACs gave a total of $1,000 to Gaetz’s 2016 House campaign in the form of direct contributions.

    Republican Representative Neal Dunn, 2nd Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $3,000 to Dunn’s 2016 and 2018 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions.

    Republican Representative Ted Yoho, 3rd Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $4,093 to Yoho’s 2012, 2014 and 2016 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions or independent expenditures on behalf of the candidate. This was his most recent tweet as we published; he has not tweeted about the high school shooting.

    Republican Representative John Rutherford, 4th Congressional District

    Rep. John Rutherford

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    Keeping the students and their families at Marjory StonemaThe NRA’s PACs gave a total of $1,000 to Rutherford’s 2016 House campaign in the form of direct contributions.

    Democratic Representative Alfred Lawson, 5th Congressional District

    US Rep. Al Lawson Jr
    The NRA’s PACs spent a total of $93 in independent expenditures against Lawson’s campaign in 2012.

    Republican Representative Ron DeSantis, 6th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $5,000 to DeSantis’ 2012, 2014 and 2016 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions.

    Democratic Representative Stephanie Murphy, 7th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs have not contributed to Murphy’s campaign and have not spent money in opposition.

    Republican Representative Bill Posey, 8th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $13,500 to Posey’s House campaigns in 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016 in the form of direct contributions. This was his most recent tweet as we published; he has not tweeted about the high school shooting.

    Democratic Representative Darren Soto, 9th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs have not contributed to Soto’s campaign and have not spent money in opposition.

    Democratic Representative Val Demings, 10th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs spent a total of $93 in independent expenditures against Demings’ campaign in 2016.

    Republican Representative Daniel Webster, 11th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $34,542 to Webster’s 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions or independent expenditures on behalf of the candidate.

    Republican Representative Gus Bilirakis, 12th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $16,450 to Bilirakis’ 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions. This was his most recent tweet as we published; he has not tweeted about the high school shooting.

    Democratic Representative Charlie Crist, 13th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $9,900 to Crist’s 1998 Republican Senate campaign in the form of direct contributions or independent expenditures on behalf of the candidate. The PACs did not contribute to Crist’s 2016 House campaign as a Democrat or his unsuccessful 2010 Senate campaign as a Republican-turned-independent.

    Democratic Representative Kathy Castor, 14th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs have not contributed to Castor’s campaign and have not spent money in opposition.

    Republican Representative Dennis Ross, 15th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $16,477 to Ross’ 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions or independent expenditures on behalf of the candidate.

    Republican Representative Vern Buchanan, 16th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $25,830 to Buchanan’s 2010 and 2012 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions or independent expenditures on behalf of the candidate.

    Republican Representative Tom Rooney, 17th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $10,500 to Rooney’s 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016 and 2018 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions.

    Republican Representative Brian Mast, 18th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $30,656 to Mast’s 2016 and 2018 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions or independent expenditures on behalf of the candidate.

    Republican Representative Francis Rooney, 19th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs have not contributed to Rooney’s campaign and have not spent money in opposition.

    Democratic Representative Alcee Hastings, 20th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $1,000 to Hastings’ 2000 House campaign in the form of direct contributions.

    Democratic Representative Lois Frankel, 21st Congressional District

    Rep. Lois Frankel

    The NRA’s PACs have not contributed to Frankel’s campaign and have not spent money in opposition.

    Democratic Representative Ted Deutch, 22nd Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs have not contributed to Deutch’s campaign and have not spent money in opposition.

    Democratic Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz, 23rd Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs have not contributed to Wasserman Schultz’s campaign and have not spent money in opposition.

    Democratic Representative Frederica Wilson, 24th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs have not contributed to Wilson’s campaign and have not spent money in opposition.

    Republican Representative Mario Diaz-Balart, 25th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $31,999 to Diaz-Balart’s 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016 and 2018 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions or independent expenditures on behalf of the candidate.

    Republican Representative Carlos Curbelo, 26th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $40,867 to Curbelo’s 2014 and 2016 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions or independent expenditures on behalf of the candidate.

    Republican Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, 27th Congressional District

    The NRA’s PACs gave a total of $2,000 to Ros-Lehtinen’s 2008 and 2012 House campaigns in the form of direct contributions.
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    The NRA, like most large organizations is a Deep State organism.

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    Never Again MSD has quickly built national support because of their outreach, with interviews on news channels from around the world and their impassioned pleas for help!

    Head Note...

    NRS’ Organization of the Month* for March is a new one. In fact, they have only been in existence since mid February. Their mission closely aligns with NRS’ mission to keep America’s runaway, homeless and at-risk youth safe and off the streets. And not only are they are working to keep youth safe, their members’ ages are the same as the target population NRS works to protect 24/7/365. The March Organization of the Month is Never Again MSD.

    Survivors of the senseless massacre at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL. on Valentine’s Day, 2018 have created a movement to prevent another tragedy from happening. Never Again MSD was created by youth involved in the theater program at the high school in the four days after the crime occurred.

    Their mission is simple: Not one more.
    We cannot allow one more child to be shot at school. We cannot allow one more teacher to make a choice to jump in front of a firing assault rifle to save the lives of students. We cannot allow one more family to wait for a call or text that never comes. Our schools are unsafe. Our children and teachers are dying. We must make it our top priority to save these lives.

    Never Again MSD’s work aligns with our mission to help keep America’s runaway, homeless and at-risk youth safe and off the street. According to NRS’ statistics, ten percent of NRS contacts are made due to physical abuse or assault. Never Again MSD also wants to protect youth and others from having their lives threatened. NRS is here for all youth in crisis 24-7.

    The goals of the movement include the passing of legislation in the United States Congress that directly addresses gun violence in American society. The group members have been actively lobbying for their position in their local statehouse, as well as holding a town hall meeting with their elected federal representatives in Florida, broadcast live on CNN.

    The group has also been working hard to increase their reach on social media, where they now boast 82,000 Twitter followers and 130,000 followers on Facebook. They have also created a website to act as a base for information on their event, March for Our Lives, on March 24th in Washington, D.C. Similar marches are happening around the United States and abroad in solidarity.

    This organization is made up of youth that NRS is dedicated to helping. They are also working to protect their peers from being victims of the same kind of trauma that they have already suffered. NRS salutes Never Again MSD. NRS is here to listen, here to help when youth need support and wants to share their story.

    SLACKTIVISM IS OVER. THE #NEVERAGAIN MOVEMENT IS ABOUT WHAT'S NEXT

    It would be nice to think we could change the world with the click of a button.

    But if that was all it took, thousands of people wouldn't have flooded the streets of cities around the country this weekend to call for gun law reform. They wouldn't have crowded buses and crafted signs and yelled at the top of their lungs and allowed strangers to crash at their houses and squeezed their bodies next to thousands of other bodies in hopes that their collective mass could finally tip the scales of change.

    They wouldn't have shown up at all.

    As the internet has reinvented the way we socialize and express ourselves, American activism has struggled to stay effective. Why march when you can share a Facebook post? After all, it's easier to discuss your opinions online or sign a virtual petition than it is to stand in line for the voting booth or sit through a town hall meeting.

    This assumption is at the heart of slacktivism, the ill-defined and pejorative term that describes social media activism carried out with little personal effort.

    But in 2018, that notion is dying with every person who marches and with every student who walks out of class in defiance of gun violence. For the #NeverAgain generation, raised in the age of Columbine and hashtags, the passive gestures of social media activism are not enough. They want tangible political action.

    And slacktivism, as we know it, is over.

    Breaking the cycle

    The March for Our Lives crowd is distinctly bred online. It's not just the SpongeBob memes or their Tumblr-esque homemade signs. It's the way they organize, the way social media is used as a means rather than an end.

    That in and of itself is an antidote to slacktivism, which sees no necessary action beyond a post, share or like. The #NeverAgain movement could have gone down that path -- after all, it is literally a hashtag.

    But in the days following the February 14 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, the persistence of student activists dominated the news cycle and broke the usual pattern of inaction that has stymied gun control activists for decades.

    Within days of the tragedy, students from Stoneman Douglas boarded buses and went to Tallahassee, the state's capital, to demand action from lawmakers on gun control. The media, and the public's attention, followed. And within weeks the #NeverAgain movement, a series of school walkouts and Saturday's March for Our Lives rallies were already in the making.

    At the March for Our Lives in Washington, Marjory Stoneman Douglas teacher Darren Levine said his students' efforts to organize the massive event were "surreal."

    "It is everything that we can hope for as a teacher to see our young people take the steps that are needed to make real change," he said. "This isn't going to stop. I think that it is evident from these kids. They are not going to stop."

    In Boston, MSD alumna Leslie Chiu put it simply: "This is not a moment," she said. "This is a movement."

    Eyeing the end game

    There is no one path to change. But the reality is, in a democratic society the impact of change is ultimately measured by voices and votes.

    The people behind the #NeverAgain movement have made it clear their goal is not a march, or some viral fame. It is policy change. And that requires more of everything. More time, more effort, more showing up.

    "First-time voters show up 18% of the time in midterm elections. Not anymore," Stoneman Douglas activist David Hogg said from a podium at the Washington march. "If you listen real close, you can hear the people in power shaking. They've gotten used to being protective of their position, the safety of inaction."

    "We're going to make sure the best people get in our elections to run not as politicians but as Americans. Because this," he said gesturing to the US Capitol. "This is not cutting it."

    To this generation of activists, that four-letter word -- VOTE -- is a battle cry stronger than any hashtag.

    "We are too young to vote," 17-year-old Stoneman Douglas survivor Florence Yared told legislators at the Florida State House last month. "But soon we will be able to vote, and we will vote you out."

    In Washington and at gatherings across the country, volunteers for HeadCount, a nonpartisan voting rights organization, roamed the crowds registering people to vote.

    Jes Distad, a HeadCount team leader, said her team registered 200 people to vote in Atlanta alone. According to Distad, dozens of people also signed up for election alerts, and even more signed up to volunteer with HeadCount at future events.

    "The momentum of just getting registered is great, but the next step is to make it out to the polls and actually put that registration to use," she said.

    Changing minds, changing policy

    So many things have happened since February 14, and so much is left to be done. On April 20, the anniversary of the 1999 Columbine shooting, #NeverAgain activists are planning another nationwide school walkout to follow the walkouts that took place on March 14.

    Policy change and increasing voter turnout in the November midterm elections are the biggest, and most complex goals. But if nothing else, the #NeverAgain movement has slowly awakened legislative conversations about gun control that had stubbornly laid dormant even through some of the nation's worst shooting tragedies.

    On Friday, Congress passed a $1.3 trillion spending package that incentivizes state and general authorities to report more data to the country's gun background check system. In early March, Florida Gov. Rick Scott signed a bill named after Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School that raised the minimum age to purchase a firearm to 21. The Illinois Senate recently passed a similar bill.

    Gun rights advocates have tried to redirect the #NeverAgain conversation away from gun control measures and toward more gun-friendly actions, like arming teachers and increasing school security. While it's not the priority of most #NeverAgain activists, there has been movement there as well: The US House of Representatives passed a bill to fund more security at schools, although it didn't include any gun control measures.

    Such action has been heartening for Leslie Gunn, a teacher who survived the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. Gunn was in the crowd at the Washington March for Our Lives event.

    "We lost 20 children and six adults, 154 bullets in five minutes, and nothing was done," she said.

    "We had voices and we advocated ... but if these kids now can make the voice that makes the change, we have to do this."

    Looking to the past

    Marching and making signs and shouting in the streets may seem fairly analog, but it's how Americans have gotten things done for decades. It only makes sense that this kind of physical presence would be the antithesis to wishy-washy political activism that begins and ends with a timeline scroll.

    That's how the Women's Marches of 2017 did it, as a direct response to the 2016 presidential election. Despite pleas from both parties to show up, CNN estimated only 55% of voting-aged citizens actually cast a ballot that November, a 20-year low in voter turnout. For those devastated by the election's results, it was a wake-up call that whatever was being done for their causes wasn't enough. If the March for Our Lives put an end to slacktivism, it was the Women's March that opened the door for its departure.

    And if the March for Our Lives makes any long-term difference, it will do so as a natural evolution of a form of democratic protest that has laid the foundation for change time and time again.

    At the Atlanta March for Our Lives, Rep. John Lewis stood shoulder to shoulder with the throng. Lewis, 78, was a Freedom Rider, a civil rights activist who risked his life to march from Selma to Montgomery, Alabama, almost exactly 53 years ago.

    "You must never give up. Never give in," he told the Atlanta crowd. "Keep your place and you are going to have a victory."

    At the March for Our Lives event in Washington, the past and the future of activism -- of change in America -- converged in one little girl. Stoneman Douglas activist Jaclyn Corin gave the podium over to 9-year-old Yolanda Renee King, the granddaughter of Martin Luther King Jr.

    "My grandfather had a dream that his four little children will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character," she said, a breath away from where King uttered those same words 55 years ago. "I have a dream that enough is enough. And that this should be a gun-free world, period."

    Looking at Saturday's marches in the context of Selma and Montgomery is not a perfect comparison. There was no widespread police violence this weekend, and the specter of institutionalized racial hatred was a talking point rather than an immediate threat. The #NeverAgain organizers know they have benefited from the mostly white face of their movement.

    In fact, they have benefited from a lot of things: Corporations and celebrities lined up to be involved with the March, and the Womens March enjoyed the same kind of popular support. Both got their own designated Twitter hashtags, an emblem of the slacktivism they sought to exterminate.

    John Lewis, on the other hand, got his skull bashed in by a policeman. King later was killed.

    But the feeling of resonance between these two moments in time reflect similar visions: To affirm the value of their human lives, to be safe, to be heard.

    Make no mistake, the students behind the #NeverAgain movement have succeeded in part because they stand on the shoulders of generations of activists who shrugged off the cloak of apathy, stepped out from behind the safety of platitudes and promises, and did what needed to be done.

    They showed up.
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    A couple of quick things here:

    - There are two memes worming their way through media presently. We have red meat for the hard Right in this ridiculous Qanon character, and red meat for the hard Left with the traveling road show of David Hogg and company. I'll stick with the latter to stay on topic. Nothing personal against the kids, but they are not organizing jack shit here. They surely mean well, but they are also being used and organized as human chess pieces.

    - There is a sleeping giant in the United States, and his name is Joe Six Pack. You see, Joe is not only the guy that builds the houses, repairs your car, and fixes your plumbing, he's also your typical gun owner. You may not know it by the silence, but he's quietly watching what's going on here, and he's starting to become more and more irritated at repeatedly hearing that he's somehow responsible for acts of the insane by simply owning guns. He also is tired of hearing that the NRA card in his wallet somehow infers he has the blood of innocent children on his hands.

    Joe is slow to anger, and he doesn't have a lot of free time trying to keep food on the table for his family. He's even often referred to as "the forgotten man" because of this, but if he gets pushed far enough into a corner he'll make his presence known as well. An awful lot of Joe's out there. Open carry marches anyone? Try him...

    And don't keep telling him that the fantasy end game here is not a total repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Joe is not a stupid man when it comes to these matters. So keep blaming him for the semi automatic he keeps on his nightstand, or the hunting rifle he sold to his next door neighbor, but at least give him a nod next time you see a fire truck screaming down the road.
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    Been waitin' for you to comment, Fred.


    I've already met those Joe's. And a lot of them were talking about getting guns before they lost their right to. Decades ago. And they can still get as many as they want and more than they can or will use. Even the hunters.

    It's already been a decade since the fellow I've mentioned who was openly talking about taking his guns and Marching on Washington if Obama got elected.

    Seems like these guys have been waking up for a while now.


    Is it true that a smallish percentage have most of the guns? Kind of a weird parallel to the financial one percent.

    Many of them were already worked up when the first generation was in Kindergarten that wasn't majority white. That's always been a concern. Why is that?

    If I recall the timing right, that's the generation that's growing up now.


    Why is there such a drive to make this a Christian country? That's not in the Constitution. They talk about a Christian war. They've been doing that since my son was a child.

    Christian war?


    If you're talking about some concrete steps beyond what I've already described, I'd sure be interested to know what that would be. More deaths?



    It was already hard to get a job when I got out of college and everyone knew it was going to get harder. What's the big surprise here?

    Computers, robotics, internet, Walmart, Amazon, leveraged buyouts out the wazzoo...

    You could be bitching about the legacy of Bain Capital and how it affects businesses like Toys-R-Us. More job losses. Romney ran Bain.

    Money money money.


    Somebody's gotta pay? Is that how it goes?

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    Meanwhile, back in the rest of the world.

    Chocolate fudge ice cream is still cheap as.

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    Who is it.., the Nicolaitans, or however it is spelled. Was there another name too. The two being ones that the christian god has problems with in the start of revelations regards (one of a number of things) their celebration of such festivals as Christmas and Easter as christian events.


    Meaning. If that is the case, in that funny way, the USA isn't being turned or created as a christian nation, but as a Nicolaitan and/or other.
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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Been waitin' for you to comment, Fred.
    LOL, hey sister at your service!

    I'm just going by what the general sentiment was in the recent protests, and has become since. The first sign I saw when flipping that on last week was a sign saying "Repeal The Second Amendment". Subsequent signage and interviews, not to mention more heated rhetoric from the kids held on high reveals much the same. Further school security (not even armed SRO's) is not really important any more, neither are psychological profiles of mass shooters to find commonalities and thus possible prevention (psychotropic drugs anyone?), it's just all about the guns now.

    Challenge yourself, look into it. You could even take a peek at the recent op ed from former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/o...amendment.html

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    lol The actors coming here to assist in the perfection and harmony, that is Earth and humanity, going through the stages of evolving, is the young ones, we are all actors in the dream/maya/illusion and reality we are all creating, feeling, knowing. The best actors imo will be the young ones, if the grid went down lol, us elders would assist the crisis actors well on the whole I believe, nutters would sort themselves out imo contrary to belief. The BS which is daily created for the narrative consumers is fast gone going as we ourselves start living behind the scenes, creating.

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    Come on Vern...
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    A couple of quick things here:

    - There are two memes worming their way through media presently. We have red meat for the hard Right in this ridiculous Qanon character, and red meat for the hard Left with the traveling road show of David Hogg and company. I'll stick with the latter to stay on topic. Nothing personal against the kids, but they are not organizing jack shit here. They surely mean well, but they are also being used and organized as human chess pieces.

    - There is a sleeping giant in the United States, and his name is Joe Six Pack. You see, Joe is not only the guy that builds the houses, repairs your car, and fixes your plumbing, he's also your typical gun owner. You may not know it by the silence, but he's quietly watching what's going on here, and he's starting to become more and more irritated at repeatedly hearing that he's somehow responsible for acts of the insane by simply owning guns. He also is tired of hearing that the NRA card in his wallet somehow infers he has the blood of innocent children on his hands.

    Joe is slow to anger, and he doesn't have a lot of free time trying to keep food on the table for his family. He's even often referred to as "the forgotten man" because of this, but if he gets pushed far enough into a corner he'll make his presence known as well. An awful lot of Joe's out there. Open carry marches anyone? Try him...

    And don't keep telling him that the fantasy end game here is not a total repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Joe is not a stupid man when it comes to these matters. So keep blaming him for the semi automatic he keeps on his nightstand, or the hunting rifle he sold to his next door neighbor, but at least give him a nod next time you see a fire truck screaming down the road.
    We don't always get what we want, Fred. And goodtime charlie has already spoken and been found wanting. It is how we got the Trumpster.
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