The Use of Crisis Actors

**Aragorn** · 10th April 2018, 14:05

Originally posted by GraceKB

Aragon's post above say's it all. imo.

Just for the record, it's Aragorn.

Aragon is a region in Spain, and whatever moniker-du-jour Dumpster Diver refers to me with is either way bound to be wrong 99% of the time.

**GraceKB** · 10th April 2018, 14:16

Originally posted by Aragorn

Just for the record, it's Aragorn.

Aragon is a region in Spain, and whatever moniker-du-jour Dumpster Diver refers to me with is either way bound to be wrong 99% of the time.

I stand corrected and make spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes all of the time. It's part of my charm. Hopefully it doesn't distract too much from my message and endless fount of wisdom.

**palooka's revenge** · 10th April 2018, 14:34

is that the mcgowan of laurel canyon and birth of the hippie gen?

**GraceKB** · 10th April 2018, 14:39

Originally posted by palooka's revenge

is that the mcgowan of laurel canyon and birth of the hippie gen?

Yes, I loved that book. It was a real eye opener about what was possibly behind the 60's music scene.

**palooka's revenge** · 10th April 2018, 14:50

yup. hell of a story. sad news...

**GraceKB** · 10th April 2018, 14:58

Originally posted by palooka's revenge

yup. hell of a story. sad news...

The one thing I disagree with McGowan about is that these groups had no talent. I think some of them had a lot of talent.

**Dumpster Diver** · 10th April 2018, 16:56

Originally posted by GraceKB

The one thing I disagree with McGowan about is that these groups had no talent. I think some of them had a lot of talent.

...for misdirection, since their music was written for them, and their instruments were played for them.

The music might be great, but these clowns didn’t write it.

Originally posted by Aragorn

Just for the record, it's Aragorn.

Aragon is a region in Spain, and whatever moniker-du-jour Dumpster Diver refers to me with is either way bound to be wrong 99% of the time.

What wrong with being a Nobel Gas, Argon?

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mREi_Bb85Sk

**palooka's revenge** · 10th April 2018, 17:43

Originally posted by Dumpster Diver

...for misdirection, since their music was written for them, and their instruments were played for them.

The music might be great, but these clowns didn’t write it.

true to some extent but i caution throwing 'em all in that box. some incredible talent cut their teeth there...

**GraceKB** · 10th April 2018, 18:51

Originally posted by Dumpster Diver

...for misdirection, since their music was written for them, and their instruments were played for them.

The music might be great, but these clowns didn’t write it.

Hmm, misdirection you say? Hendrix, Joplin, Santana, I'm pretty sure they all wrote their own music and spent time in Laurel Canyon. Probably others too but those three came to mind.

**Aragorn** · 10th April 2018, 19:18

Originally posted by GraceKB

Originally posted by Dumpster Diver

...for misdirection, since their music was written for them, and their instruments were played for them.

The music might be great, but these clowns didn’t write it.

Hmm, misdirection you say? Hendrix, Joplin, Santana, I'm pretty sure they all wrote their own music and spent time in Laurel Canyon. Probably others too but those three came to mind.

Indeed they did, and — to name the only survivor of the three you've brought up — Carlos Santana is still doing that to this very day. He even wrote and arranged music for John Lee Hooker (and others).

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aFKgi5D6eU

**Emil El Zapato** · 10th April 2018, 19:38

Originally posted by Dumpster Diver

...for misdirection, since their music was written for them, and their instruments were played for them.

The music might be great, but these clowns didn’t write it.

What wrong with being a Nobel Gas, Argon?

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mREi_Bb85Sk

I haven't heard that one in a long time...

Originally posted by Aragorn

Indeed they did, and — to name the only survivor of the three you've brought up — Carlos Santana is still doing that to this very day. He even wrote and arranged music for John Lee Hooker (and others).

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aFKgi5D6eU

Santana is destined for Sainthood...

**Dumpster Diver** · 10th April 2018, 19:50

For all you folks who think our Rock musicians are so cool, read this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/19...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And this:

https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-...+laurel+canyon

...and see if your rock gods might not have feet of clay.

**Octopus Garden** · 10th April 2018, 19:58

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

The authoritarian is why anarchy doesn't work. Because there is always the authoritarian who wants to come in and tell you how to live.

When we break down governments we get warlords. They want authority. They want power.

Wars have yet to bring us peace.

When we stop needing, wanting, allowing authority and start to work together then we won't need government, not centralized government anyway.

But how do you stop the busybody who want to run your life and the religious person who wants to run your soul?

Dreamtimer,

As Aragon describes, the 'left' in the U.S is actually very far to the right, in this respect. Now imagine you let the current system run for a few decades and as a financier, you realize you have made as much money as you possibly can under the globalist system as it is currently structured. What would you do? You would find someone to break it apart....reaaaaallll good. Because out of chaos and wartime, be it abroad or at home, there is always money to be made.

Now, who would you choose to work covertly to smash things apart? Would you choose CIA operatives, the NSA? No, they represent the older guard. They are probably globalists for the most part. You would develop networks of contacts within the military--and the Navy might be the best option, but you would cover as many bases as possible. These people probably tend to be more nationalistic, more patriotic. They have their own intelligence networks. Cambridge Analytica is chaired by many former military, on its board.

So...you have your boy in power and he might just represent an overthrow of the old system. It's possible. But, yes, think of how he was elected and think too about how closely this man, personality wise and mandate wise resembles Yeltsin, tasked with the same thing. Break the country part, sell it off, create a NEW oligarch class.

Those "average Joesky's" who were solidly behind Yeltsin suffered terribly after the old state was demolished. Russia, formerly rather bleak and grey became a place of utter horror.

This could easily be the fate of the U.S. in years to come. Those who are focussed on divisive issues like guns,,or the idea that an armed population would stand a chance against what is left of their own government with advanced weapons, are kidding themselves.

Look at what is happening in budgetary terms. Every program cut while military budgets expand!

**GraceKB** · 10th April 2018, 21:17

Originally posted by Aragorn

Indeed they did, and — to name the only survivor of the three you've brought up — Carlos Santana is still doing that to this very day. He even wrote and arranged music for John Lee Hooker (and others).

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aFKgi5D6eU

Nice.

**GraceKB** · 10th April 2018, 21:22

Originally posted by Dumpster Diver

For all you folks who think our Rock musicians are so cool, read this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/19...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And this:

https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-...+laurel+canyon

...and see if your rock gods might not have feet of clay.

Okay, it's a pretty big leap from saying someone has talent to worshipping them as Gods...even for Batman. FWIW, I think Devlin is talented too, in his own right, as was McGowan.