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    I'm willing to forfeit texting for a shot at unpoisioned air, water and food.

    I honestly don't know any reason why the poles would shift. Energy flows from the sun into the North Pole and out the south. Either the Sun reverses its flow or the planet flips upside down.

    For what purpose? Make toilets spin the other way? It's like saying the planets will stop and revolve the other way. Why?

    Latitude and longitude are changing ever so slowly because the axis of the Earth is changing.

    NASA Cannot be believed at all in my opinion. They skrewed us.

    You all have fun with the science. I understand some of you really enjoy it. I do too just simple stuff.

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    There has indeed been a prolonged period of awareness of something being up with various factors of the Earth's base frequency, gravitational field, pole travelling.. and such from the list. In modern times? well Greg Bradden being one in a talk back in 1996 I recall for a start. The theory of Pluto and the Coming Photon belt, spoken of by many when it was coming in 1999. The cross over with that and the Mayan long count investigations, in which the 13 years from 1999 - 2012 were highlighted as being a stage, the age of revealing, the beginning of the energies of Pluto, compared to the arrival of Shiva on the horizon. Then the other matching prophecies of old cultures around the world. The Hopi, talking the Red Dawn and the Shift of the Ages, I forget off hand all the corresponding prophecies. Edgar Cayce included. Countless numbers of them really. And then scientific proof of pole shifts having happened in the past.

    I find the reactions in the thread somewhat expected. A form of fear or projection I would offer. In my view, for all such cultures and persons to have taken the time in their various pasts to try and leave a message for the future, there was obviously something they were trying to tell 'us'. Some of the messages have corresponding symbolism, some don't.
    To me the material is not of fear really, in that I see within the various messages, a large amount of homage paid to the events described. Yet I think there is a certain amount of warning within it. One of the reoccurring mentionings is of 3 days of darkness. Of the Sun rising from the opposite direction when it cameback. There's talk of the red skies, the skies of fire, of blood, talk of the mind, talk of the light showing up any speck of darkness which cannot be hidden. I recall conversations about those who wish to try and hide like rats in drainpipes, and how you can run but you can't hide. I recall some other mention of someone mentioning that there may be a short period where taking cover under at least 1m of 'soil' would help, but that Earth changes would also mean being buried alive if folk tried to stay underground for longer than the necessary times. There's talk of chaos, as the darkness within that has not been resolved in the population is cleansed. There's repeated imagery of leaving the cities in different prophecy. Concepts like, live by the sword die by the sword.
    Oh yes, this whole field of topic is very strong indeed, maybe a subconscious tweaking to the psyche within people's ancestral memory in the shape of cataclysm fear.. could be partly responsible as to why such things get various reactions to.
    Maybe it is one of the oldest fear porn tools that even affected ancient civs to the extent they rambled on about it many man moons ago... There's the dual sun theories and the Niburu variations. It is obviously has SOME kind of importance, whether it be evidence of some sort of psychological schism to understand, or and actual warning of an actual event. It hasn't been dropped, People keep coming back with it saying... now is the time, oh, no, now is the time. Surely irresponsible in one view, but in another, it is understandable it is hard to predict exactly when..
    I just see a certain failure in logic to throw the toys out of the cot because someone, and someone else and others who all have done research enough to feel the 'thing' is real, got the date wrong or hadn't quite exactly described the thing that we all don't rightly know perfectly what is, perfectly.
    Then there is Henny Penny and Foxy Loxy. The sky is falling dynamic. These scenarios, point out that some who wish not to listen, end up wishing they even slightly did.
    Frommemory there's Cygnus X in the Belt/eye of Orion, where gamma rays penetrate the Earth and scientists have speculated and I think proven that at various points in history it has interacted with human DNA. There's the 70 year old prophecy that somewhat lines up with parts of Ben Davidson's reporting of scientific findings regards the cosmic dust cloud the Earth is coming out of and has been increasingly in recent decades or centuries.

    I haven't watched your video yet Dumpster lol. I suppose it wouldn't hurt eh lol. Oh and one thing I read recently is one person's more recent prediction is June 22, they have had a few goes at other dates in the past. So is that reason to just throw away all avalanche of material interlaced in this topic and ignore? or buy a paddling pool and sit in it wetting one's pants 24/7? No not to me it doesn't. What do we do with the abstract avalanche? well be aware of it, that may be the most valuable thing anyone might learn in their whole time on "Alternative media" indexes. Maybe even prepare in more obvious and prudent ways.
    Just my 2018 common cent mixture. Salty caramel. Mmm. Oh.
    Man I am tired. zzzz

    Here's one bit from Mr 22/6/18 or for you backward folk 6/22/18
    http://www.human-resonance.org/mandala.html

    And here's another somewhat unrelated Easter egg for Dumpster from my random links list http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/
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    Quote Originally posted by Orbs View Post
    I honestly don't know any reason why the poles would shift. Energy flows from the sun into the North Pole and out the south. Either the Sun reverses its flow or the planet flips upside down.
    You are conflating the geological poles and the magnetic poles — they are two very different things, and they're not even located in the same places.

    The geological poles are not likely to flip. That would require a complete displacement of Earth's mantle, and this in itself would most definitely wipe out all life on Earth because of the shock waves and the tsunamis. Nevertheless, the Earth's crust does move over time, as it's floating atop of liquid magma, and it's not a contiguous peace of rock either. There are many tectonic plates which roughly fit together like the pieces of a sloppily designed puzzle, and they shift in relation to one another due to magma displacement, gravitational effects from the sun, the moon and the other planets of our solar system, and of course also because of the spinning and wobbling of the Earth itself.

    A magnetic pole reversal on the other hand is quite possible, and has already occurred many times in the past. Bombardment of the Earth — or more precisely, of the magnetosphere — with highly energized plasma and particles from the sun can bring that about. It's an electromagnetic phenomenon. It wouldn't kill anyone, but it would certainly disrupt the natural navigational abilities of certain migrating species — such as pigeons, certain types of fish, et al — and it would of course also render all extant electronic navigation systems completely useless.

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    For what purpose? Make toilets spin the other way? It's like saying the planets will stop and revolve the other way. Why?
    No, that has nothing to do with the magnetic poles. The way water spins in toilets and sinks stems from the rotation of Earth, and Earth would still be rotating the same way and would still be pointing "up". But compasses and other devices relying on Earth's magnetism would become defective.

    For instance, even an old-fashioned regular compass with a magnetized needle would start showing the South as being the North — never even mind what it would do to satellite navigation systems.
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    I have never heard of a geological pole shift in my entire life until now. I've never heard it talked about.

    What proof exists a pole shift has occurred?

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    Quote Originally posted by Orbs View Post
    I have never heard of a geological pole shift in my entire life until now. I've never heard it talked about.

    What proof exists a pole shift has occurred?
    Well, it's a hypothesis — at least, when we're talking of the geographic pole shift. The theory has not been conclusively proven. I am just going to quote an excerpt below from the Wikipedia article.


    The cataclysmic pole shift hypothesis suggests that there have been geologically rapid shifts in the relative positions of the modern-day geographic locations of the poles and the axis of rotation of the Earth, creating calamities such as floods and tectonic events.

    There is evidence of precession and changes in axial tilt, but this change is on much longer time-scales and does not involve relative motion of the spin axis with respect to the planet. However, in what is known as true polar wander, the solid Earth can rotate with respect to a fixed spin axis. Research shows that during the last 200 million years a total true polar wander of some 30° has occurred, but that no super-rapid shifts in the Earth's pole were found during this period. A characteristic rate of true polar wander is 1° or less per million years. Between approximately 790 and 810 million years ago, when the supercontinent Rodinia existed, two geologically rapid phases of true polar wander may have occurred. In each of these, the magnetic poles of the Earth shifted by approximately 55°.


    Further reading here. And as for the magnetic pole reversal, I'm going to defer to this Wikipedia page here.
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    Deunov was discussed in this thread a couple years ago.

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    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    Realistically speaking, what should the average person do in response to the information?
    Well, for one, fight for Disclosure. The Deep State has the tech to get us off the planet. The longer they fvck about, the shorter time we have, and perhaps that’s the point. They get themselves and their buddies off to a new earth-eden while we fry in our own juices.

    The last near swap, the Younger Dryas, which may be the Atlantian wipe-out, sounds like only a few “humans” survived it and the earth had to be “repopulated.”

    I’m 70 on my next b’day. I’ve lived a very full, fun, and happy life. If it ends tomorrow, I had a great time, no regrets. At the same time, I’ve taken a few precautions. I live in a bunkered house, putting up massive solar panels, getting an electric car, buying books, tools, food for a long haul. Moving to Sedona is part of it, as it is a pretty enlightened, help-the-other-guy-out kinda place as well, and that was in the plan. Call me a semi-prepper, perhaps.

    But I’ve made my peace with it all. Besides, like you, I’m immortal and the rollercoaster ahead just might be a real learning experience. And it might even be fun.
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    Some folks are still confusing geographic and magnetic poles?
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    Quote Originally posted by Barbarella View Post
    Some folks are still confusing magnetic poles and magnetic poles?
    Well, you have to admit that it's actually quite easy to mistake a magnetic pole for a magnetic pole....


    Hint: It always helps to proof-read your post before submitting it.
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    (Oops! Thanks. Now corrected. To much gin I guess.)

    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Hint: It always helps to proof-read your post before submitting it.
    (Oops! Thanks. Now corrected. Too much gin I guess.)
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    Quote Originally posted by Orbs View Post
    I have never heard of a geological pole shift in my entire life until now. I've never heard it talked about.

    What proof exists a pole shift has occurred?
    Immanuel Velikovsky is a good source for 'Catastrophism'. Main stream science says 'Nay'. Electric Universers say 'Yay!' I like Velikovsky's theories because they are exciting and took place in the 'distant past'. A good place for them. I loaned one of his books to a co-worker once and then the guy claimed it was his book in the 1st place...what a.....
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    Here’s the problem with geographical pole shift. It has been postulated the the Earth’s crust can move (like an orange under its peel). Matter of fact, it was the underlying premise in the Movie 2012. Something like that happened in our past because tropical plants have been found around the South Pole and North Pole.

    So the geo pole is not moving, but the crust is. To us fleas on the surface, it amounts to the same tho.
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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    Here’s the problem with geographical pole shift. It has been postulated the the Earth’s crust can move (like an orange under its peel). Matter of fact, it was the underlying premise in the Movie 2012. Something like that happened in our past because tropical plants have been found around the South Pole and North Pole.

    So the geo pole is not moving, but the crust is. To us fleas on the surface, it amounts to the same tho.
    The earth's crust moves at about the rate that your fingernails grow. And that's mostly only around the tectonic plate subduction zones and ridges, although occasionally much faster when surfaces 'snap' in an earthquake.

    The geographic poles are the points around which the earth spins so this is not the same thing at all as you suggest. Think of the geographic poles as the mounts for the classroom globe. The moon helps stabilize that axis and although there is some minor wobble in the earth's obliquity (which oscillates between 22.1 and 24.5 degrees on a 41,000-year cycle) it is at present 23.5 degrees.

    Fossil records of tropical plants have indeed been found at very northerly and southerly locations. This isn't just due to continental drift, but also very much warmer temperatures.

    Where is all this stuff about the earth's supposed axis shift coming from? Very simple research will show it's all complete nonsense, or am I assuming a greater understanding than there really is amongst alternative forums and websites?

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    Quote Originally posted by Barbarella View Post
    The earth's crust moves at about the rate that your fingernails grow. And that's mostly only around the tectonic plate subduction zones and ridges, although occasionally much faster when surfaces 'snap' in an earthquake.

    The geographic poles are the points around which the earth spins so this is not the same thing at all as you suggest. Think of the geographic poles as the mounts for the classroom globe. The moon helps stabilize that axis and although there is some minor wobble in the earth's obliquity (which oscillates between 22.1 and 24.5 degrees on a 41,000-year cycle) it is at present 23.5 degrees.

    Fossil records of tropical plants have indeed been found at very northerly and southerly locations. This isn't just due to continental drift, but also very much warmer temperatures.

    Where is all this stuff about the earth's supposed axis shift coming from? Very simple research will show it's all complete nonsense, or am I assuming a greater understanding than there really is amongst alternative forums and websites?
    Well, tropical vegetation does not grow in the arctic regions. There’s your proof. We had some sort of shift there.

    News for you on science as well: Much, if not all has been bent so much of what you have been taught is mostly wrong.

    ...hard for me to say this as I’m a pretty hard core scientist myself.
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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    Much, if not all has been bent so much of what you have been taught is mostly wrong.
    Um, no, Dumptruck Driver, she's actually correct in what she says. Being taught something is one thing, understanding how things work is another, and if what you have been taught agrees with your understanding and with your observations, then there's a very good chance that it was correct in the first place, or at the very least that what you have been taught was on the right track.

    There is so much woo-woo and fear porn going round within this so-called alternative community that it overshadows the real issues. The so-called alternative community is making a joke of itself. And undoubtedly, that is without a shred of doubt exactly what the rulers of this world want.
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