Space weather threat: you must see this video

**WantDisclosure** · 14th March 2018, 16:28

Originally posted by NotAPretender

. . . I have my message to convey as tiresome as it becomes to those on the receiving end..

Trust yourself and your highest instincts and you can't go wrong!

After hearing others speak their truth, absolutely, I agree with you.

Sometimes others have very important things to share, because they're speaking from first-hand experience, and if, in one's heart, they come across as trustworthy, then I think one has come across a goldmine, because we all have limited first-hand experience.

**Emil El Zapato** · 14th March 2018, 16:33

Originally posted by KeepTrying

They're not on TOT posting about what's going on and together trying to make a difference, which was the point of my post.

This thread is about the possibility of pending disaster, and what, if anything we the people should do about it, in view of the fact that generally speaking, the mainstream media and the government cannot be trusted.

It's not wrong to feel the way you do, KT...but here's the thing in my opinion. If we can't trust the government to be honest with us about any looming disaster it is because they know full well that individuals don't have the resources to do anything about it. The only thing that raw truth can lend to the mix in that situation is a breakdown of what we consider civilized behavior. Does that serve any purpose? Better 'they' try to use all the resources at their disposal to make something happen.

Here's an example:
Is it the Bilderbergers that have their 'secret' power meetings every year? The doomsayers shake in their boots and scream 'conspiracy'. They are out to get us common folk they exclaim. They want to decrease the world's population to 500 million, they are plotting to kill us all! And the justification for these 'paranoid' rantings is the 'secrecy' surrounding the organization.

This organization requires secrecy to insulate from the masses solely because of the vast power they wield. Their WORDS matter, they can impact world economies and a careless word could raze financial foundations to the ground. They are not plotting against us, they are protecting us from our own stupidity.

**Wind** · 14th March 2018, 16:48

You might have more faith in our leaders than I do, but then again I have none. They might not be out to get us, but they are just mostly interested in their wellfare. We are peasants, peasants are expendable. Rarely have I seen good leaders and when ever they emerge, they won't be leading for long. However, even in their short time they do manage to do some good. The best leader of your life is yourself, that's how I see it. By law I might be required to follow some orders and regulations, but I am still not under the rulership of anyone else besides a higher power.

I do agree with the notion that most humans can't handle the truth. If they saw the truth as it is, there would be revolutions all over the world overnight. Much death and destruction would occur, that's how revolutions always are. (R)evolutions of consciousness... That's another story.

**Dreamtimer** · 14th March 2018, 17:04

Wind, you made me look up Revolution of Consciousness. I like the phrase.

Regarding listening to people with experience, we have no choice but to discern and use instincts because we can't be there ourselves. We have no choice but to keep in mind the fact that there are a lot of very smooth confidence people out there who seem very sincere. Some testimony is going to be good. Some is going to be worthless. A lot, unfortunately, will probably be somewhere in between.

**Dumpster Diver** · 14th March 2018, 17:04

Originally posted by NotAPretender

yes, exactly Dreamtimer and 'We're still just rats in a cage!"

Actually, my Bat-cage in Sedona is pretty nice. Then we go to the alternate cage on the beach in San Diego.

**WantDisclosure** · 14th March 2018, 21:03

Originally posted by NotAPretender

They are not plotting against us, they are protecting us from our own stupidity.

No they’re not.

It is the role of government to protect the common welfare. That’s their only role; the rest of the responsibility of living lies with individuals and families.

Pending disaster is exactly the thing that the government should be honest about in dealing with we the people, because our tax money should be used to make the necessary arrangements for our survival.

There is good reason why conspiracy realists talk about the powers that be wanting to reduce the population. There are books such as Ecoscience by former White House Science Advisor John P. Holdren and The Impact of Science on Society by Bertrand Russell.

People such as Alex Jones actually read stuff like that and then report on it.

**Dreamtimer** · 14th March 2018, 22:40

David Harsanyi published a piece titled "Obama's Science Fiction Czar." The Washington Times and The Catholic News Agency ran pieces about Holdren, forcing his staff to address it. "This material is from a three-decade-old, three-author college textbook," his office said in a statement. "Dr. Holdren addressed this issue during his confirmation when he said he does not believe that determining optimal population is a proper role of government. Dr. Holdren is not and never has been an advocate for policies of forced sterilization."

In the 1970s, it was widely accepted by most serious people that overpopulation was a major planetary emergency. Many expected imminent widespread starvation, global upheaval, and mass death. "Success in the population field, under United Nations leadership, may, in turn, determine whether we can resolve successfully the other great questions of peace, prosperity, and individual rights that face the world," wrote George H. W. Bush in 1973. (Indeed, Bush was nicknamed "Rubbers" because of his obsession with family planning.)

In 1975, a then-classified National Security Council report outlined the dangers that rapid population growth posed to global stability. The report recommended expanding access to voluntary methods of family planning, but under the heading "An Alternative View," it broached the case for coercion. A "growing number of experts," it said, were predicting widespread food shortages and other "demographic catastrophes …

In the 1980s and 1990s, there was a major feminist backlash against population control, spurred by numerous incidents of coercion, including widespread forced sterilization in India.

The MacArthur Foundation provided significant support for the women who worked to replace population control with programs that took women's autonomy and human rights seriously. Holdren was a member of the foundation's board between 1991 and 2005. "At a time of youthful enthusiasm Holdren may have been associated with one side of the debate, but by the time he was on the MacArthur board, he was certainly closely associated very much with the other side of the debate

[C]onservatives don't generally recognize that there was a debate in the family planning field. They tend to see population control and feminism as closely aligned, rather than as mutually distrustful, sometimes openly warring tendencies. Feminism played a huge role in vanquishing the kind of vaguely totalitarian thinking that floated around the population field in the 1970s. If Holdren deserves blame for being part of the problem, he also deserves credit for being part of the solution.

People learn and grow.

The Bilderburgers is mostly private people rather than government officials isn't it?

**Dumpster Diver** · 14th March 2018, 22:47

A “good” leader will tell you the truth and thusly be able to vote and make decisions.

...since no one in the political landscape tells us the truth, no matter how nasty it is, there are no good leaders.

**Emil El Zapato** · 15th March 2018, 00:31

Sociologists will tell you that the ability to be a good liar is a mark of a good leader...

**WantDisclosure** · 15th March 2018, 08:23

Originally posted by NotAPretender

Sociologists will tell you that the ability to be a good liar is a mark of a good leader...

Do you believe that?

**Dreamtimer** · 15th March 2018, 09:11

Leaders lie, no doubt. I like to think of Captain Picard from Star Trek. He would only lie for the most honorable reasons. It's obviously idealistic but a good model.

I would lie or do violence to protect my children. But I don't like to lie and deceive and I would not want to do that as a leader. I could end up with trouble as a result. You can't just blab everything as a leader.

Imagine running a company. You don't go around telling everyone about all your business plans and all your finances because of the competition and the fact that other business owners will undermine you.

We have a long ways to go before we can do everything out in the open in a trusting way.

**Emil El Zapato** · 15th March 2018, 13:40

Originally posted by KeepTrying

Do you believe that?

yes, I believe sociologists think that ...

I've been watching Trump's group on the news

**WantDisclosure** · 15th March 2018, 14:32

Originally posted by Dumpster Diver

Well, for one, fight for Disclosure. The Deep State has the tech to get us off the planet.

Apparently, trying to insulate the entire grid is impractical against an electromagnetic pulse.

Corey was interviewed by George Noory webcast March 7, 2018 on Gaia's Beyond Belief, and he pointed that out when asked.

It seems that you're right; if one wants to do something, working for Disclosure is the best use of time.

**Dreamtimer** · 15th March 2018, 16:04

Eric Dollard talks about the grid and how it could be protected. He talks about how it's been made more vulnerable as it's been upgraded.

"When you put an electrostatic change on a rock it changes shape" That's an interesting statement it 4:52 in this video. I'm still looking for the one about the grid.