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    Here's a fun quote from 10:40,

    A third century Christian apologist who is being ridiculed about his religion retorts (to the Romans), "Well, at least we don't carry our god on a cross like you do."

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    I'm listening, but don't need to...the answer is yes and it is very very obvious...

    But...Christ as mythological being doesn't really stand up to historical scrutiny. Isis to Jesus spans millennia. If one considers that some brain specialists have speculated that the 'abstract thinking' centers of the brain hadn't fully developed until post the Greek epoch explains the vast differences in 'thought' before and after. Consider today...Do we have 'mythological' beings dominating our lives...hmmm, not really, despite the Q-phenomenon.


    She seems sincere enough...But, the constellation on the horizon at dawn on December 25, for the last two thousands years has been either, Gemini, Cancer, or Leo...No where close to Virgo...but it is nice touch on her part.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    She seems sincere enough...But, the constellation on the horizon at dawn on December 25, for the last two thousands years has been either, Gemini, Cancer, or Leo...No where close to Virgo...but it is nice touch on her part.
    If the Biblical Yeshua was a real person, then he would have been born around 4 BC, and most likely in March or April, based upon astronomical data ─ a conjunction ─ that could possibly explain for the bright light allegedly appearing in the night sky shortly after he was born.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Roger, Dodger...
    "We are one thought away from changing the world!"

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    This is a story about a personal encounter at an airport.

    A man was waiting at a gate and another man told him a compelling story.

    [SIZE=3]“I met the most amazing man one Sunday at our church; please, can I tell you about him?”

    “I play in a band at our church. This man came into our service as we were playing the pre-worship. I noticed he had a tee-shirt with the blue-marble earth photo all blended into it. I thought, real cool. Also, he was a little darker skinned than most people who worship with us. We are open to everyone, but we do not have much diversity. I got back into my riffs; we rock in the pre-service.

    We try to maximize the worship experience, allow everyone that awe moment. I suppose I shouldn’t even have noticed this man, but he was something of a misfit. I noticed he listened very intently. During the prayers he didn’t reach up or anything; he seemed in meditation focused within himself. I noticed him because I look up from prayers to keep the service flowing. I have to be ready for the transitions. When you are part of the show or the performance, it isn’t always just worshiping. I do relish the moments when everyone seems so connected.” He continued, “After service a couple handed our misfit, a newcomer kit, and said they hoped he had received a blessing today. As they left he looked at me carrying my guitar. I looked at him, I couldn’t look away.”

    “I asked what his plans were today. He said, ‘I had hoped to talk with James.’ (our minister) ‘he has asked me to come so often.’ (the minister had already left)

    My misfit added, ‘I will walk over to the beautiful area.’ There is a marvelous nature preserve on the other side of the highway. I said, "I will take you, if you don’t have a car. You can’t walk across the highway." He nodded. I felt compelled to protect him, he had such depth to his eyes.....
    The visitor in this story... could he be the same one who visited another church?
    story starts at 9:58


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BflQCW7RJ5w
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    Wow, that's really interesting, Maggie. I'm not done listening yet, and wow.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Wow, that's really interesting, Maggie. I'm not done listening yet, and wow.
    Whatever is true. Whatever is noble. Whatever is right. Whatever is lovely. Whatever is admirable. Anything of excellence and worthy of praise. Dwell on these things. Jesus Christ (I agree)

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    The herringbone pattern. It resembles a fish bone. Fish is a central symbol in Christianity.

    It's a very popular fabric weave. Weaving is symbolic of the interconnectedness of us all.

    The part about the garden reminds me of my dreams of nature. Lots of flowers and trees and animals. And it's usually quite beautiful.

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    I'm glad to hear her speak about the little things that matter. I taught my son that, and he embraced the idea. We all make a difference in each others lives by every little thing we do. And, like pennies, it all adds up.

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    What does { love } feel like...


    she's a special person with special needs and Jesus was there... if it is real and not imaginary...

    And Jesus said, "Go, your faith has failed you"
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    So we have some people who are exploring the history surrounding Jesus and are finding truth there.

    And we have some people who are having direct experiences and finding truth there.

    The hardest truth to accept, it seems to me, is that we're all loved as much as each other. None of us is more special than another.

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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    What does { love } feel like...


    she's a special person with special needs and Jesus was there... if it is real and not imaginary...

    And Jesus said, "Go, your faith has failed you"
    She talked about how she is always thinking about Jesus and has a relationship. I think this is very real. I think that when I hear "fundamentalists" talking about being saved, they COULD be describing a true relationship based on something before religion. Religion took it and packaged up the possibility and says "MY RELIGION" is GOD"S ONLY WAY.

    I see all kinds of extremely wonderfully loving people who are sincere and have a releationship with God as they understand god (or through Jesus or another representative). The UNFORTUNATE part of religion is that all these various people are separated form each other by religions which contain them. The real experiencers are persuaded that the religion produced the relationship. IMO.
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    that's an interesting thought. My opinion of many that 'think' they have a relationship with Jesus/source but act in a contrary fashion are doing so because they have 'no concept' of the nature of that relationship. I've been soundly castigated and been greeted with more than a few huhs when I suggest that the ability to have paranormal or psychic experiences are one and the same ability to establish a true relationship. But that doesn't make those people evil, it just makes them unaware of what it is REALLY about. And it might be that they are never capable of experiencing it. It is sad and perhaps unfair but it is up to the individual to know themselves.

    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    So we have some people who are exploring the history surrounding Jesus and are finding truth there.

    And we have some people who are having direct experiences and finding truth there.

    The hardest truth to accept, it seems to me, is that we're all loved as much as each other. None of us is more special than another.
    I've always believed that we are all very special. The thing is some people at a spiritual decision point make the wrong choice and begin to believe 'They are especially special' and if it is a 'conscious' decision then it is evil incarnate.
    "We are one thought away from changing the world!"

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    The herringbone pattern. It resembles a fish bone. Fish is a central symbol in Christianity.

    It's a very popular fabric weave. Weaving is symbolic of the interconnectedness of us all.

    The part about the garden reminds me of my dreams of nature. Lots of flowers and trees and animals. And it's usually quite beautiful.
    I know this might be slightly off topic? I am not sure, but the beingness of Christ might be a
    "place holder" for the beingness that we are in the larger context? I am curious about the reality described in "life between lives"?


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD3D5upWVaw
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    Miguel Connor is talking about gnostic Jesus v. orthodox Jesus. This is about pre-Nicean Christianity of course.


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