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    Christianity and Mind Control

    Here’s a video to get you thinking:

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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    Here’s a video to get you thinking:

    ... hmmm,

    For the most part Christian theologians (and even secular historians and even most skeptic historians) consider Josephus a living breathing critic of a living breathing Jesus...(You ain't taking away my Jesus, the greatest superhuman that has ever lived)

    "The mythicist Biblical scholar Robert M. Price said that Atwill "gives himself license to indulge in the most outrageous display of parallelomania ever seen." Price acknowledges that the New Testament has "persistent pro-Roman tendencies", but says this was done "for apologetical reasons, to avoid persecution." The mythicist Richard Carrier similarly stated that all of Atwill's alleged parallels can be explained as either coincidences, mistranslations, or references to Old Testament sources or tropes. However, Carrier also agreed that the New Testament has pro-Roman aspects. According to Carrier, "Christianity was probably constructed to 'divert Jewish hostility and aggressiveness into a pacifist religion, supportive of–and subservient to–Roman rule,' but not by Romans, but exasperated Jews like Paul."

    Biblical scholar Bart Ehrman said "I know sophomores in college who could rip this ... to shreds" and pointed out that Atwill had "no training in any relevant field."

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    yeah, I took that course...
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    Perhaps Mauro Biglino will be next on the list, then?

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Perhaps Mauro Biglino will be next on the list, then?
    Well, let us hope so...this guy looks like he knows what he's talking about. And I've never done any serious study of the old testament but have always wanted to (not counting 8 years of at least 1 hour everday of biblical (not to be confused with bible) study.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Well, let us hope so...this guy looks like he knows what he's talking about. And I've never done any serious study of the old testament but have always wanted to (not counting 8 years of at least 1 hour everday of biblical (not to be confused with bible) study.
    As a 8 year old, in a bible class on Job, the only thing I could think of was, “God’s an a$$hole”. It didn’t help that I said what I believed to the teacher.
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    My view of most religions.
    "Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the object of your anger to die” ~ Anon
    "When you come to a fork in the road, take it." ~Yogi Berra
    "You can observe a lot by just watching." ~Yogi Berra
    “When I die, I want to die like my grandfather who died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car.” ~Will Rogers
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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Perhaps Mauro Biglino will be next on the list, then?
    This one? http://www.mindofthemachine.com/down...glino_Book.pdf

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    I started looking at that one, Nothing. I've listened to a couple of interviews with a translator. He's coming out with an English language book soon.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    I started looking at that one, Nothing. I've listened to a couple of interviews with a translator. He's coming out with an English language book soon.
    That is in English?

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    He had the one book translated. My understanding is that he's coming out with a new book to be published in English.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    He had the one book translated. My understanding is that he's coming out with a new book to be published in English.
    Ahh okay.

    Reading this one, it is stuff I have already heard before regards Niburu, Annunaki, Enki and Enlil etc.

    I personally don't think that story affects the notion of the existence of a greater universal creator. It to me, tells of the ongoing battles between 'dark and light' within even a godlike race. Although it is certainly a topic to be familiar with indeed. The topics such as duplicity of meddling 'people' who are struck through guilt or selfish compassion and filled by a need to do 'good', but by doing so create further complexities of abomination.
    It all can become very tangled and chaotic, the meddling and the fixing and that being meddling in its own right. The human evolution through this could have seen the life form turn into demons/chimeras.
    Perhaps a final line WAS drawn in the sand to fix that, was that line yet more meddling? creating yet more chaotic ramification? Was that what was referred to by the story of Jesus? If so was it a line drawn by the meddlers in the old testament? or did some bigger entity come in to try and meddle as well? Could the 'great universal creative energy/entity' (Guce- lol) also partake in meddling? in Error making?

    From my observations of nature, things eventually 'right' themselves if they are meant to be.

    I haven't watched the OP video sorry DD. I have used up all my bandwidth, but also the word gnostic puts me off, as I find that area just as, if not more misleading. I find that potentially even more filled with mind control. I agree with your meme/cartoon though. That all the "religions" have problems in wanting to be the one true theorem
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    Quote Originally posted by Nothing View Post
    Ahh okay.

    Reading this one, it is stuff I have already heard before regards Niburu, Annunaki, Enki and Enlil etc.

    I personally don't think that story affects the notion of the existence of a greater universal creator. It to me, tells of the ongoing battles between 'dark and light' within even a godlike race. Although it is certainly a topic to be familiar with indeed. The topics such as duplicity of meddling 'people' who are struck through guilt or selfish compassion and filled by a need to do 'good', but by doing so create further complexities of abomination.
    It all can become very tangled and chaotic, the meddling and the fixing and that being meddling in its own right. The human evolution through this could have seen the life form turn into demons/chimeras.
    Perhaps a final line WAS drawn in the sand to fix that, was that line yet more meddling? creating yet more chaotic ramification? Was that what was referred to by the story of Jesus? If so was it a line drawn by the meddlers in the old testament? or did some bigger entity come in to try and meddle as well? Could the 'great universal creative energy/entity' (Guce- lol) also partake in meddling? in Error making?

    From my observations of nature, things eventually 'right' themselves if they are meant to be.

    I haven't watched the OP video sorry DD. I have used up all my bandwidth, but also the word gnostic puts me off, as I find that area just as, if not more misleading. I find that potentially even more filled with mind control. I agree with your meme/cartoon though. That all the "religions" have problems in wanting to be the one true theorem
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    "All roads lead to Rome"...oh yeah.

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    Quote Originally posted by DMt. View Post
    "All roads lead to Rome"...oh yeah.
    My view is Rome never really went away, if anything the US is the new Rome. We have the architecture (check out Wash DC), Flavian coliseums (stadiums), standing trained legions (armies), the state religion mandating warfare, a senate, and a cultural obsession to obliterate yours and impose ours (media and movies).
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    Well, you hit the nail on the head with that one, Dumpy. Cultures and empires do resurface again too just like people who lived in them reincarnate and US is indeed Rome of modern days. I'm not going to watch a hour and a half long video without any bullet points about the content though.

    Jordan Peterson started a series on the Bible and he has barely scratched the surface. I've only begun to watch the series and there are already many parts to watch. You can't take the teachings of religions literally, especially when it comes to Judeo-Christianity. I find a psychologal take on the Bible refreshing. Other than that, I have always thought that religions have been used as tools of control and oppression. Although in their moderate form they do bring some value and meaning to people's lives... Personally I just choose spirituality without any institutions. I doubt that Christ would approve what religion of today has become.

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