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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Unintended? Are you sure about that? Don't forget that they too have already been indoctrinated. It's what schools do.
    These kids are acting very differently. The indoctrination in schools isn't anything like it was due to the wide access to information. With me, all information was controlled. I would have to spend hours in the library to find out a lot of stuff. It's much easier now to see what's going on around the world than when I was in high school or even college.

    These young people are about to come of age and they're breaking out of molds, not following them. My generation was all about following the materialism mold.

    Unintended consequences are exactly that. The stuff that can't be predicted and/or controlled. The controllers believe they control better than they do. imo.

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    I'm not that familiar with these guys in the video...I listened to it. On general zeitgeist the entire paradigm just doesn't strike me as legit. If one needs somebody to instruct them on how to be free, they've already lost the game or are incapable of being free. I don't need a book to 'instruct' me how to not be a slave to anything. That was a vow I made to myself before any one started the alt-right movement and came up with this 'set yourself free' thing as a cover for the real movement, "White privileged! We are losing our footing and therefore we are enslaved. We cannot let this happen!" "Fight back! "Let me show you the way to enlightenment and I can do it because I have your best interest at heart!"

    The people at the root of these movements are either evil or exploitative or perhaps honestly and in a benign fashion deluded. Or perhaps it is just me? Let me know if it is. If no one wants to volunteer for the duty ask Modwiz...I'm sure he would be willing to oblige.

    But I will listen to it again, and try to get a different impression...Better yet, if someone can find a video by these two that demonstrate a concern for ALL people...seems someone alluded to such a thing...I'd love to listen to it...
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    Quote Originally posted by Nothing View Post
    What makes me think you haven't watched it or understood it is you are pretty much agreeing with many of the points Michael is making while attempting to use that as a rebuttal for not agreeing with him. And other bits you seem to be reacting emotionally to, like this concern for all people thing. You want him to not be a 'saviour' or hand holder, but want him to have concern for all. That's completely contradictory.
    Maybe I forget how his presentation can be a bit terse for people first listening to him and what they want to hear.
    Nevermind, I'm not here to convince you of anything.
    Fair enough...I'll do a little more digging. Aragorn has already convinced me that Abby Martin isn't an airhead. Maybe I will see the error of my ways with Tsarion...I am open-minded but I do need convincing. He might just be receiving the butt end attitude of what I have seen before. He might be different.

    My emotional reaction is due to ... actually, it is due to the fact that I know many people can in legitimate fashion buy into this stuff...It just doesn't apply to me, that's all.

    One surely doesn't need to be a hand holder (perhaps at times) or a savior to want the best for humanity...A truly moral person does.
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    This guy has been around for 30 years and has had plenty of people suck on to him like he is a guru, demanding answers and solutions, demanding he gives stuff on a plate for them to easily digest.
    To be candid and with respect, to me...
    You are judging his message by whether he lives up to your own ideals, jumping to a conclusion or two and using it to dismiss the challenge. Throwing the baby out with the bath water, recoiling mainly because of your own reactive triggers, not because of the message you are hearing or think you are hearing.
    Interesting though, I just presume everyone can listen to this and understand it. You will hear he is completely aware of your reaction.

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    well, as I said, I will listen again...I started to but got interrupted with work... What he is proposing to people is an outcome that is counterproductive to what I think is the 'ideal' outcome. So you are correct in that. I'm Irish, too, by the way. I'm not blind to different perspectives. This is just one based on what I know right now is bad for the future of humanity. Again, I'm speaking with limited exposure to him but his message whether intended or not is heard by many people as exactly what I 'intuited'. In many cases, you can see how an individual's message is being received by the people that glom onto it. Not always, of course, just in general really. The list of people that love him include 'Jim Marrs'. That guy has problems, same as Marzulli. They have negative attitudes.
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    I don't know...Everyone has to make up their own mind.

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    Quote Originally posted by Nothing View Post
    Oops, have done it again haven't I?
    Darn. Well, happy to oblige my role, no matter how cringe worthy it may be at times.
    Sorry NAP, I should have dealt with that all a bit better.
    It's nice when people can apologize. This is what it's all about my friend.

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    Quote Originally posted by Nothing View Post
    Oops, have done it again haven't I?
    Darn. Well, happy to oblige my role, no matter how cringe worthy it may be at times.
    Sorry NAP, I should have dealt with that all a bit better.
    Actually, I don't see any reason for you to apologize, it seems I should apologize to you. I see what you mean about Tsarion. His 'prime' motivation is very subtle and hard to really discern. In watching those videos I realized he is a 'sharp' guy and not one to be philosophically pigeon-holed. So no problem, Nothing...we are, after all, entitled to think what we think
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    Quote Originally posted by Nothing View Post
    I just caught the coverage of the meeting Trump attended. That would be pretty classicly zaney if he was being played by Leslie Nielson in some new twitty movie.
    Except of course that this is never going to happen, even if only because Leslie Nielsen left these mortal realms now quite a number of years ago already.

    On the other hand, Alec Baldwin did a good impersonation of Trump on "Saturday Night Live", though.
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