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Thread: The coming--or not--"mini ice age" as a Fermi Problem

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Ah, still buying the old global warming lie? Well, let's hope it gets warmer, because I don't like cold. Especially freezing to death.

    Here's the thing, this guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about but the 'science' questions he raises are not in debate, so I do wonder where the 'debate' is taking place that he cites. C02 is a single factor, sort of a focal point, but not the entire chemical formula. I could get the numbers but sadly, I am lacking the motivation.

    Weather anomalies are 'expected' and part and parcel of 'CLIMATE' change. If one conflates the two concepts they are making a mistake. I wonder why he is doing this?
    "We are one thought away from changing the world, but in all the confusion I've forgotten what it was"

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    Trust me, he knows what he is talking about and he is not the only one. There are many more competent people talking about the subject too.

    The climate change is just another bs title made by the ms scientists and news outlet spin doctors. The climate is always changing and always will be changing, no matter if this planet has humans or not. Our Sun is almost the sole driver of our climate, the mainstream science arrogantly denies this. A grand solar minimum has already began and our Sun is emitting less and less solar irradiance which has major effects on our weather. Even a slight change in it makes this planet much cooler. When the sun isn't producing enough potent solar flares cosmic rays will start to flood as they already have. Cosmic rays are known to cause clouds and cloud covers, which in order blocks the sunlight. It is also known that volcanoes become activated during these times and they will produce ash to the atmosphere which too blocks heat from the sunlight.

    Some places are getting warmer, yes... For now. During the last mini ace some deserts were actually places filled with plants and life. So it's not like the whole Earth would freeze over, thankfully. Everything is cyclical.

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    Thanks, Wind. You're a cool breeze that's welcome in the winter.

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    Much obliged. Some have thought that I can be cold like wind during the winter, but that's not true. Actually I'm quite gentle and warm.

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    Actually, I hope Wind is right and my research is wrong. My biggest problem is the numbers are there; I’m up to a 90%+ chance of at least one kill-shot solar flash in the next 2-6 years.

    I hate rooting for something that has only ~10% chance of occurring...
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    Big solar flares are known to occur during solar minimums, but 10 % might be more close to it indeed. That might be too high of a number too. If we get even one big enough flare headed towards us, then back to 18th century we go. That of course would kill not only millions, but perhaps billions. Humans are suprisingly dependant on electricity and less surprisingly so are nucler plants too. I'm not concerned about that nor I am worried about the coming major weather changes. There's still some time left, there's still room for miracles too. We'll get through, somehow.


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    According to Ben Davidson, we "just missed" recieving two killshots this past summer (northern hemisphere). One pointed at Mars, and the other in another direction. A few years ago, we had one other. His "earth facing quiet" will not protect us all the time.
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    I've witnessed those recent killshots. I don't think it's an accident that they're missing Earth.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I've witnessed those recent killshots. I don't think it's an accident that they're missing Earth.
    ...yup, for now. CG says the “shields” are being removed.

    ...that’s why I live in a bunkered house.
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    I hope you know who Corey Goode really is.

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    The spheres have left, so I hear. The cause of the similar earth facing quiet observed during the Maunder Minimum is not known...I have a feeling it wasn't spheres.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I hope you know who Corey Goode really is.
    Blue Chicken Corey? Yup. But just because you and I don’t care for him, does not make him wrong on this point.
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    I feel we all are getting wiser, yes ?

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    I feel we all are getting wiser, yes ?
    If “getting wiser” means getting slapped by new facts that you don’t care for all the time, then yes.
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    This is not about Fermi but is about Grand Solar Minimum and the weakening shield.


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