The Arrogance Of Truth Carriers, Of Dirt

**Aianawa** · 5th February 2018, 05:17

Cheers NAP and Mod, truth n dirt create templates, allow platters for choosing and losing n allowing lol, when the water needs changing or cleaning or drank, fountains within will find their source, their frog outside the well, giddyup giddydown smile not frown, anger but identify, boil or fry, seeds hot.

**enjoy being** · 5th February 2018, 07:45

Just another day in the life of a humble poo-factory.

**Fred Steeves** · 5th February 2018, 12:03

Originally posted by Fred Steeves

No worries Dumpster, your own custom made parade float is a personal favorite to observe passing by my front window every day.

Originally posted by Dumpster Diver

Thanks Fred. Unfortunatly, having found out I wasted my life working for the Dept of War for almost 50 years put me in a dark frame of mind these past few years. So then I come up with dark jokes...it may have been too much for many folks.

Well now, having your own float in the dog and pony parade I see passing by daily is not necessarily a good thing. You're a smart guy with experience, and lots of potential, but unfortunately a lot of that is being wasted here with frivolous forum slide.

Originally posted by modwiz

It is not your humor driving people away. It is the dearth of reason. The truther community is largely pro-Trump in one way or another. They are certainly happy Hillary is not the president.

I largely agree with your first assessment (although there is potential for a turn around), but so far as the truther community being pro Trump? That doesn't show me any more discernment than the average Joe Six Pack, and is just one more reason I tend to not consider myself a part of said community. I'm just around, doing my thing and watching the parade go by...

**Dreamtimer** · 5th February 2018, 12:27

Is the Truther community expected to be in accord with each other? I recall Dumpy starting a thread asking what the alternative community collectively believes. Not a lot of folk glommed on. As far as I can tell, that's because there isn't mass consensus. The truther or alternate community is made up of people just like the rest of the world.

If this community has it's eyes more open than the mainstream and can have more discussion and debate than the mainstream, it's blessed. If it believes it has a position it's members should be expected to hold, that's a problem.

Arrogance of certainty is still arrogance. In my opinion, overt arrogance turns people away from communication and dialogue.

For those who still think mainstream media is all on the same page, that seems to have changed pretty drastically. In this country, Fox is in a different universe than any other local or national outlet and it's most certainly mainstream, whatever that even means anymore.

**Aragorn** · 5th February 2018, 12:59

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

For those who still think mainstream media is all on the same page, that seems to have changed pretty drastically. In this country, Fox is in a different universe than any other local or national outlet and it's most certainly mainstream, whatever that even means anymore.

It is on the same page as the others because it is mainstream, and thus it is part of the dog-and-pony show.

**Dreamtimer** · 5th February 2018, 14:49

How does the alternative community fit into the parade, I wonder?

**Aragorn** · 5th February 2018, 15:18

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

How does the alternative community fit into the parade, I wonder?

By being not quite as alternative as it likes to believe it is, perhaps?

**Dumpster Diver** · 5th February 2018, 15:57

Originally posted by Fred Steeves

Well now, having your own float in the dog and pony parade I see passing by daily is not necessarily a good thing. You're a smart guy with experience, and lots of potential, but unfortunately a lot of that is being wasted here with frivolous forum slide.

I spend much more time reading than posting, and most all posts are a few sentences long, especially the "jokes". All this is alt-world research, the main vector in my life other than moving boxes (which consumes the other 90% of my free time). I'm 70, what else should I do? Go to the senior center and play bingo?

**Octopus Garden** · 5th February 2018, 17:26

Most people in the alternative community, pierce one of the veils of illusion and get blown away by the covert nature of the political economic world. Then they get involved in frenzied dot connecting which devolves into solipsism. For example, the idea that all 'elites' are perverted cannibals involved in Satanic rituals.

This they call 'being awake.' I call it being highly suggestible and taking things WAY too far. There's way more paedophilia than we were previously aware of. That's a given, but I don't think Hillary Clinton is a cannibal or is into Satanism.

As far as that goes, there is NOTHING indicating she is personally involved in paedophilia, Satanic sacrifice etc...When the alternative community narrow angle focus on that red herring, they overlook that she is directly involved in the deaths of thousands of children and more adults, through her foreign policy.

Mainstream media presents an inverted reality, regarding politics, (war in the Middle East, N.Korea, China, Russia etc...) where aggressors are somehow victims, where freedom is oppression. The alternative media is on the right track. But that track begins in honest curiosity, winds its way through what can be known and ends up in the vast geography of the purely imaginary.

**Dumpster Diver** · 5th February 2018, 17:57

Originally posted by Octopus Garden

Most people in the alternative community, pierce one of the veils of illusion and get blown away by the covert nature of the political economic world. Then they get involved in frenzied dot connecting which devolves into solipsism. For example, the idea that all 'elites' are perverted cannibals involved in Satanic rituals.

This they call 'being awake.' I call it being highly suggestible and taking things WAY too far. There's way more paedophilia than we were previously aware of. That's a given, but I don't think Hillary Clinton is a cannibal or is into Satanism.

As far as that goes, there is NOTHING indicating she is personally involved in paedophilia, Satanic sacrifice etc...When the alternative community narrow angle focus on that red herring, they overlook that she is directly involved in the deaths of thousands of children and more adults, through her foreign policy.

Mainstream media presents an inverted reality, regarding politics, (war in the Middle East, N.Korea, China, Russia etc...) where aggressors are somehow victims, where freedom is oppression. The alternative media is on the right track. But that track begins in honest curiosity, winds its way through what can be known and ends up in the vast geography of the purely imaginary.

Hillary is a cannibalistic paedo-satanist? Who knew?

**Aianawa** · 5th February 2018, 19:30

Nice call OG, agree in many cases that the elite may be puppets in differing ways including oblivious to others ways.

**Emil El Zapato** · 5th February 2018, 20:07

Originally posted by Dumpster Diver

Hillary is a cannibalistic paedo-satanist? Who knew?

Mr. Dumpster,

Anyone that knows the truth, know that...c'mon Batman, get with the program[ming]

**enjoy being** · 5th February 2018, 20:26

Let them who have no sin cast the first stone.
For all you know the forum may have slowed because of the gnostic bombardment. ;-P

**enjoy being** · 5th February 2018, 20:54

It is hard to be edgy, and cutting edge at the same time though.
Only those multiblade razors cut the same hair twice.
Say something like you mean it and people know they too could mean it if they tried.
Say it like you know it cant all be true and spread doubt. Doubt is good to rub over oneself as a lubricant in case these newfangled ideas are a bit too tight and restricting.
The sequence of light hearted quipping and textual tickling may continue, the fool in the garden help spread the pollen.
However, the "pull my finger" sequence can be a bit disruptive to the flow of threads. Some of the threads evolve the most between the spaces in time that there is silence, Sometimes it is the opposite and shared inspiration comes from random inputs. I love random inputs. But only if they prove to not be random at all and aren't the driving a truck through a fruit stall kind of random.
"When what is being said is faulty and foolish, it can encourage others that they might do better, and begin to post as well". -though I don't recall this has been proven on this forum as yet. It can be the case elsewhere.

I've been busy, only just got back from the december trip to the mountain.
Sometimes I get a bit cranky about things I encounter, usually until I have the chance to reframe it into a different perspective.. that can be a really good thing to do, and a really bad thing. Sometimes other people can tell you which it is on a case by case basis, but that in itself will create its own hurdles eh.

**Aianawa** · 6th February 2018, 08:27

Yip, yes and agree mostly Nothing, cepting the shock option in positive terms and especially long term and or big picture angling and binging.

Ps howd tikitour go ?