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    Magic Shrooms for headaches?

    Have you tried using magic mushroom while having a severe migraine? This got me curious because i've came across this one article about a magic mushroom is used for treating cluster headaches here in https://www.trufflemagic.com/blog/tr...es-psilocybin/ .. It gives you plifting sensation surges into the mind and the body which promotes a sense of happiness. What are your idea about this?
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    Paul Stamets has spoken and written about psilocybin and it's benefits to humans. I'm not sure how much he spoke about depression. He's a scientist who has done vast work with mushrooms and has a great deal of useful information about mushrooms and their benefits. Lion's Mane may also be a good choice for helping with depression.

    There was/is a trend in Silicone Valley involving microdosing, with the purpose of spurring creativity.

    Glad to see your article links to a study published in Nature.

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    I suffer from migraines and have 'done' shrooms only a few times years ago so can't draw any parallels. It was interesting and 'stimulating' in a number of ways...I can see it as a counter to depression in that the experiences promoted 'hyper-alertness' while depression can be very dulling to the senses.
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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
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    There was/is a trend in Silicone Valley involving microdosing, with the purpose of spurring creativity.
    If my memory serves me right, then those were micro-doses of LSD. I've never done any kind of drugs in my life, so I don't know too much about that, though.


    That said, welcome Carbry.


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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    I've never done any kind of drugs in my life
    No judgement intended at all but I'm a little surprised!

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    Quote Originally posted by Lemual View Post
    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    I've never done any kind of drugs in my life
    No judgement intended at all but I'm a little surprised!
    Well, I for one am surprised by your reaction to my statement.

    I've never been one of those guys who felt like he had to go and try everything under the sun. Ever since I was a toddler, I've had and maintained a very clear set of ethics and rules for myself. Granted, I was far more judgmental then than I am now, because as a toddler, my judgment was very "black & white". I still had so much to learn about the world, about people, and about life — and where it can lead you.

    My parents had always warned me against drugs, and I have seen first-hand what drugs do to people, so I've always steered clear of that. Besides, being autistic, my brain is already having difficulty coping with the jungle of reality as it is, so I don't need anything in there that "changes my perception" or causes me to hallucinate.

    That said, I'm not exactly a teetotaler either. I do smoke — regular off-the-shelf cigarettes — and although it is extremely rare, I will on occasion also consume an alcoholic beverage or two. I've even been tipsy a couple of times in the past, but other than an upset sense of balance and a somewhat slurred speech, it doesn't affect my demeanor, nor my mood. Most importantly even, I don't even yearn for more alcohol when I've had a few, which is strange, given that my mother was an alcoholic, and so I have seen from up close how her addiction affected her.

    Most of the time I simply avoid drinking alcohol because unless I am here at home, any other place I go to requires me to drive my car. And I've seen what drinking and driving does too. I've got more than one friend who totaled their cars — plural — while under the influence of alcohol, and then I'm not even getting into those who got caught by the cops and who lost their driver's license a couple of times. And then there are those who don't even remember all the things they did while they were drunk.

    No thanks, my dignity is one of the very few things I've got left, and I don't intend to lose that too.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Well, I for one am surprised by your reaction to my statement.
    Was more of a sly bit of "poking fun". File it under "just another Aussie hanging sh*t on his mates"!

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    Well, Aragorn smokes cigs, which in my book is a drug...

    ...btw, I’ve also never done any sort of drugs, nor tobacco, very little drink; perhaps 1 small glass of wine once a month. I actually felt that society was being pushed into drugs when I was a kid and I absolutely stayed away from it and I’m a “child of the sixties”.
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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    Well, Aragorn smokes cigs, which in my book is a drug...
    Cigarettes have never changed my mood, my reflexes, my cognition or my consciousness. Just sayin'
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    Ask any North American Indian what Tobacco really is meant to be...

    ...a natural way to attune oneself to the Mother Planet.
    The fact that the powers that seek to limit that connection, by all the toxins they've added to Tobacco, shows clearly that they don't want that connection to take place.

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    I guess I'll just take the fifth...but I won't drink one. That's too much.

    I've been drunk. I don't really like being drunk, buzzed is fine. I don't drink to get drunk anyway.

    I believe I've already fessed up to this: I have tripped. It was in college. I seem to have a high tolerance for certain drugs. I never saw anything that wasn't there. I did what's described as a heroic dose of mushrooms. Very interesting trip but I never saw anything that wasn't already there.

    Thinks would certainly change in appearance. Walls undulated, formica floors split into colors and moved to the music of the spheres. But there were no pink elephants.

    I had to have oral surgery as a kid and I counted all the way to four before the meds took me out. The doctors were impressed. The other side of that was that I didn't want to come back and they had to put ammonia under my nose. That's awful.

    You're right Aragorn, it was LSD that was discussed. I think I heard Paul Stamets talking about micro-dosing and conflated that with mushrooms.

    Tobacco carries prayers to the spirit world.

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    Oh yes...having one... too many isn't nice...just right is...
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    Tobacco makes me dizzy...but, of course, that doesn't stop me. I quit for 25 years...got divorced and started hanging out with younger work buddies and they got me hooked again.
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    Depression is something that I've had to deal more or less for most of my life. Or should I say melancholy? Of course I'm not always feeling down, it comes and goes.

    So in that sense I would be very interested to try the mushrooms as I find the topics about psychedelics fascinating, but I have never gotten around to do so, probably because I've lacked proper contacts and friends like that. Like Aragon, I have a mildly autistic brain and for some reason I've always wanted to stay more or less "clean" and not have my consciousness affected. I don't like to lose control and for that reason I don't like alcohol much. Even though I aknowledge that the buzz is a comforting sensation, but quite luckily my body doesn't like alcohol either. I've seen what alcohol does to people and most of my family has suffered from alcoholism. I recently lost one relative to it too. As a sensitive person it would be so easy to escape to something like alcoholism... I'm not judging anyone btw, I've just seen some things.

    I have a really strong dislike for tobacco. The smell of it burns my nose and makes my eyes watery. I've never smoked a single one and I hate the fact that my mother is killing herself with them.

    That being said, ironically I used to like cigars (made from real leaves), but the smoke from them is never inhaled to the lungs. I haven't smoked at all for a while and when I did, it was only very occasionally. Sometimes they made me feel dizzy, but also good.

    Psychedelics have also helped people to get rid of their addictions too.


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    psychedelics like LSD, I'm convinced is good for overcoming neuroses, though admittedly given an improper psychological environment it might precipitate psychosis ...

    But from a 'self-discovery' view LSD is unparalleled. Just ask Timothy Leary... I'm no expert...again, a few forays, but as Jung said, we have to de-construct to put it back together again in a new improved version. Make the leap to the other side by going straight down the rabbit hole.
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