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    Thumbs up Germany Preparing Law for Backdoors in Any Type of Modern Device

    Can anyone see the irony in that this is an initiative coming from a German politician? I wonder whether his grandfather was a member of the Gestapo.









    Source: Bleeping Computer


    German authorities are preparing a law that will force device manufacturers to include backdoors within their products that law enforcement agencies could use at their discretion for legal investigations. The law would target all modern devices, such as cars, phones, computers, IoT products, and more.

    Officials are expected to submit their proposed law for debate this week, according to local news outlet RedaktionsNetzwerk Deutschland (RND).



    Difficulties in investigating modern crime, terrorist attacks

    The man supporting this proposal is Thomas de Maizière, Germany's Interior Minister, who cites the difficulty law enforcement agents have had in past months investigating the recent surge of terrorist attacks and other crimes.

    The Interior Minister says that police officers are having a hard time investigating cases because smart devices are warning owners before officers could do anything about it. The Minister cites the cases of smart cars that alert an owner as soon as the car is shaken, even a little bit. He says he'd like police to be able to intercept that warning and stop it when investigating a case.

    De Maizière claims that companies have a "legal obligation" to introduce backdoors for the use of law enforcement agencies and he also wants to require the industry to disclose its "programming protocols" for future analysis. This latter clause could allow German officials to force companies to disclose details about their encrypted communication practices.



    German officials want "Hack Back" clause

    Furthermore, the new law would also give German officials powers akin to the "Hack Back" bill proposed in the US, allowing authorities the power to hack any remote computer. The Minister says this is important to "shut down private computers in the event of a crisis," such as is the case with botnet takedowns.

    But privacy advocates who also read the new law proposal say the text also contains verbiage that would allow the German state to intercept any traffic on the Internet [1, 2], effectively setting up a surveillance state with full snooping powers over everyone's online communications. Experts called for caution before approving the new law, which could be abused in its current state.

    German authorities anticipated such reaction and said that any access to such data would be allowed only after law enforcement have obtained a court order. But the problem with encryption backdoors is not how you access them, but that they exist in the first place and that they could be abused by ill-intent actors as well.



    Concerted efforts to weaken encryption across the globe

    The law proposal is not a surprise for people who've been keeping an eye on such things. There are concerted efforts going on in Germany, France, and the UK to introduce legislation for mandatory encryption backdoors. In fact, de Maizière and his French counterpart even signed a joint letter they sent to the European Commission that supported encryption backdoors.

    Similarly, the fight for encryption backdoors has been recently reopened in the US as well, after a series of comments made by US Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

    While the EU was very clear it does not intend to support the introduction of laws that allow for generic encryption backdoors, in March 2017, the European Commission offered its support for a plan that would allow law enforcement to access data exchanged via encrypted instant messaging services, such as WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, and others.


    Source: Bleeping Computer
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    We will just keep them busy trying to stay one foot ahead of human ingenuity and creative endeavours surpassing their need for supreme control................ain't ever going to happen..

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    Every bad thing has a positive downside...

    This is the only one time in entire Human history when those who seek world dominance is very close to their aim like never ever before. Every step they make towards gaining entire world causing loosing portions of their own souls. The crazier they'll become the harder it will take to keep within step-by-step mode therefore sudden advances towards global system of control are unavoidable. This is where even Those who currently don't see where We are going won't have a chance to mis-interpretate an ultimate aim of creating this global system of censorship and control.

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    IMO, we already have backdoors on our cars, and all electronic devices here in the US.

    ...don't run naked in front of your computer!
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    Hey I keep my camera lens covered at all times and have things shut off as much as I can technically figure out. They may hear some flapping noise when I run naked in front of the computer and if they can still see me depite my camera being covered then they will need to run and get an iron to get the wrinkles out!!! Bwaaaahhh~~~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    IMO, we already have backdoors on our cars, and all electronic devices here in the US.

    ...don't run naked in front of your computer!
    I sometimes give my camera a "deep" moon and say hello with my ass cheeks to 'them'. Very satisfying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modwiz View Post
    I sometimes give my camera a "deep" moon and say hello with my ass cheeks to 'them'. Very satisfying.
    i have these sorts of tendencies as well. If they are watching me, they are not getting much.
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