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    I managed to find the clip I had been looking for.

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PPvJ4WImAc


    The Athenes' video is interesting. I found the digi-voice hard going, but after a few replays we found an amicable compromise in our relationship. Looking at some of the other titles put out by Athene, the fellow seems to have a few sceptic leanings, which is okay.
    The overall picture I received from the presentation is in showing the mechanics behind the actions of consciousness. As proof of workings. Some of the conclusions placed were not accurate or say, took liberties.
    Proof of workings for the methods which can be used to dupe humans.
    How we can dupe ourselves.
    How we choose distractions to fill in vast blocks of time while we wait for our lives to progress.
    It doesn't go into my suggestion that this highly spec'd radio transmission and computational device is capable of more than just receiving conventional data and processing it, and is linked into different places and times.

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    Well I think consciousness is far beyond the mind in itself.... re: the Athenes Video...why do I say that...well what about those who have been declared DEAD that come back from this diagnosis with stories of their out of body spirit experience. Spirit / unconscious IMHO is a frequency and this is a vibration and vibrations can be FELT.

    After "first" meeting my shadow self years ago in a shattering way and finding I survived ( use to think I would be like an overwound alarm clock that once once wound too much I would spring apart and never be able to be put all the parts back together), I gained the courage to venture deeper and deeper as I cleaned levels and years of garbage out.

    I learned to Love my shadow self as without those ways of being I may not be here today......they ( shadow behavior) are all ways to survive the human experience until One can create new ways to cope and or function more productively. To get to truly accept, understandand and love my shadow self is to sit quiet and identify what I am feeling below the usual good, sad, happy, angry etc....these are just the tip of the iceberg feelings...............

    I say find the inner most feeling as this is the essence of your vibration and thus addressing how you vibrate through feeling identification frees you to change it if it is not of your liking and or enhance if it is what turns your crank.......

    Change the feeling and the behavior changes, some time as quick as snapping your fingers and depending on your beliefs and indoctrination it make take some practise of new behavior to finally retune the vibration to your new sync and desired way of being. Fake it until you make can work when you know this is the focus and intent.....

    By the way.....Love Tsarion ..his no Shite Sherlock info presentation is my kind of way of being too!!

    Great thread and posts everyone............thanks

    Just ran across this video and thought I would slip back and post it as it is appropo .... it is short :-) Connected ..what does it mean??

    Last edited by Elen, 10th December 2017 at 11:05. Reason: Embedded video

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    I have a feeling that humans are uniquely positioned to evolve towards their highest potential and survive their own witless follies.

    I think that people use the term, "I believe," when they should more accurately say, "I feel that..." Belief indicates a sense of certainty. Very few of us can or should be that certain of anything. It gets in the way.

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    "I believe" means to me that I don't know, and always leads into doubt as a concept. So, I would put that on the back burner until I can say "I know".

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    What did your grandparents believe?
    Did they have more choices in what to believe than you?
    When our imaginations are captured, we get caught up and inspired.
    What made your grandparents get up every morning and do what they did?
    Was it not knowing any better? Probably in the cynical sighted manner.
    Was it some form of motivation tendered from a consideration, a belief?
    Do we ever know what was going on in the minds of generations passed?
    As it is we struggle to know what was going on in the minds of generations present.
    Was some belief brought about by lack of knowledge?
    Is some belief still brought about by lack of knowledge?
    Is certainty sometimes a misplaced belief in ones knowledge?
    The words quickly become seasonally interchangeable and what is left of value is that belief and certainty within any individual is pretty arbitrary.
    There might be passion and conviction, but when it comes down to it, each case could just as easily be personal superstition, as it might be unfaltering truth.
    I guess they can still be called, motivators. They made you do or not do something. Effectively being meaningless or superfluous in any other degree of definition.

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    According to my father, my grandfather's motivation for getting up in the morning was to chase the farmer around the fields with a machete for not paying him...
    “If you cannot do great things, do small things in a great way.”

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    Happy Apogee New Moon everyone.
    3 days (here) to solstice. :-p

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    Nothing to say but, awesome. I love this time of year. New moon means big tide differentials. Hope I get a chance to see low tide tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Nothing to say but, awesome. I love this time of year. New moon means big tide differentials. Hope I get a chance to see low tide tomorrow.
    Roll Tide!
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