It does still happen.
It does still happen.
The unexamined life is not worth living.
Last edited by sandy, 24th November 2017 at 02:22. Reason: double post
Also similar in theory to the "mindseye healing" technique I outlined in a thread a few months back.
In terms of mass change, my past opinion on the chances of this happening is that it would require each individual to face their individual lessons and rise out of 'rock bottom'. The journey into the Dark Night of the Soul. The great test which de-constructs the person and allows them to feel genuine choices.
On one hand I see that it may be fine for this to happen one at a time at any time stretching into the distance, but on the other hand one is aware of how this could just mean ships passing in the night, and when the few change their ways, the others take advantage.
So then I became aware of the notion of grand scale events causing change, as a trigger to mass journey into the Dark Night of the Soul. In turning this concept over, it became apparent that such a notion might be a thing which the trap of a negative orientated service to others philanthropist might entertain. Meaning someone attempting to cause such a climate in some mad theory that it will help set the fire in which each persons phoenix would rise. Presuming that for such a thing to happen one would be talking about an event which would be a great catastrophe or tribulation.. an aside to that was an epiphany I had, that some of those that might need the biggest rocket, are also the softest and most spoiled, so they may well not really need a huge catastrophe to set them off on their journey. Just an appropriate one perfectly relating to their dialogue.
I feel that may have been a bit confusing. So there are the two camps. Chipping away in increments of baby steps, or burning paper.. or being put through the ringer and hitting rock bottom.
I have been aware frequently of how sometimes a person is on their journey to rock bottom, and either people trying to help or save them, takes them away from the path they were on, stalling or prolonging their journey. They may choose to for instance, write down and burn, and that may well be effective as it is them taking the steps and as you say, it is not an externalised process.
I am not saying one is better or worse. Mainly I think I am highlighting the result from interference of others even when they are well meaning. We are here for experience and need to experience our lessons for them to be genuine. It makes one aware of how influenced we can be. In many ways "it is a minefield out there", this sort of curliness to life for humans seems like a natural state. Adding to the notion of the place being a school to experience trauma and hard times.
There's those wild life shows that show how orphaned wild animals usually have all the skills needed to BE their species, via instincts. Holding that up next to the concept relaying in Lord of the Flies, makes one wonder.
Last edited by enjoy being, 24th November 2017 at 03:10.
"This system doesn't necessarily require fixing, it requires a better quality of participants. From the top down to the bottom."
You nailed it...no matter what we call the 'system', any system, it will always be comprised of individuals that 'lead' based on their 'instincts'. Some research suggests these 'instincts' and 'proclivities' go beyond personality tendencies to the very core of genetic mandates.
The answer is still the same!