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    Well I've told you, folks, quite a bit about myself and this is what I've heard more than a few times while crossing a street in my small hometown in Kansas and no, it wasn't 150 years ago.

    Hey, you m*therf*ckers go back to Iran. Hey, you beaner why don't you go back to where you came from ... hmmm, Sioux City, Iowa, I presume, I was born there, lived there for a couple of months, and then was kidnapped by my adoptive parents (my dad, who was a WWII veteran that served in the South Pacific) and transported to my quaint little hometown. So many memories that I have always cherished about that 'friendly' little place.

    What was always amazing to me is that my dad served as President of a local chapter of the "American" GI Forum and was always fiercely patriotic. I mean this to the fiber of my being, I never understood it.
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    I never did either. I don't get that kind of treatment. But I'm grossed out and offended by it. Who the hell do people think they are? If this is the best country in the world of course people from all over are going to come here. Why wouldn't they? That's how we formed in the first place. The search for a new and better home.

    It's just selfish and not patriotic at all.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    If this is the best country in the world [...]
    But you do know that it isn't, right? What is, and what something is presented as (or is even believed to be), are two very different things.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    The law of supply and demand always wins ... (Hey Michoacan, that's where my ancestors came from and probably plenty of them still living there) ... Also the home of the Power to the Peons President (He's in my bio-paternal line).

    Military style arms come from the United States. And the country has a long history of corruption, post the legalized through war land grab of the Americanos. In parts of the Americas, Colonial descendants are still earning millions merely for being there in the beginning. Sort of like cryto-currency.
    Very interesting NAP. I wish I had crypto ancestry. Wouldn't it be cool, in some ways, to be "old money?" Like, never have to worry about finances. Wow. The drawback is life loses edge and luster then, I guess. And you don't know what you have and how lucky you are, because you have never known any different. But...that's a whole other topic, Amigo.

    All the points you made are correct but missing a key one. In the last couple of decades the focal point of the drug trade moved from Colombia to Mexico. It became too hot for gangsters to operate in Columbia as the U.S was involved in rooting out and jailing as many of them as possible. So, they managed to clean up Columbia, to a degree, but that left a vacuum that Mexico was happy to fill.

    The drug wars are about establishing turf, carving out drug distribution niches, buying politicians and judiciary, expanding networks and the inevitable mergers and acquisitions etc.. It's like any corporate activity except hostile takeovers in this area take on a whole new meaning!

    Mexico used to be mainly marijuana. But now its hard drugs. And whenever hard drugs, in particular, enter the scene, there's a problem.

    I had a friend who was involved in the marijuana trade, peripherally in Florida, many decades ago. She said the entire judiciary and all the cops were in on it and it was just one big lazy, kind of happy, peace love dove operation....until hard drugs arrived. She left at that point. Talk about harshing your buzz! All of that drug money built out Florida's legal economy, laundered through real estate and legal businesses. Then the state went more or less legit.

    I can remember looking at a map and wondering where that trade would go next and thinking. Hmmm...I think Louisiana. New Orleans most likely and yes this is what happened. It was kind of obvious that would happen.

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    Interesting perspective, OG. It seems even the Mafia had issues with hard drugs. Murder yes, hard drugs no. I remember while living in Miami for about 3-4 months (once upon a time) there being talk that the mob owned the 5 biggest banks in the Miami area. I had no trouble believing it.
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    USA has been real busy spreading that democracy!


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H1GWNVBw0U

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    But you do know that it isn't, right? What is, and what something is presented as (or is even believed to be), are two very different things.
    It isn't, obviously. But it is a thing that I hear a lot here. Folks think the US is the best. Opinion isn't reality.

    And if they're going to say that it's the best country, they should acknowledge the real reason immigrants come here. Not the bogus gas lighting crap about drug dealers and rapists.

    The history of drug-dealing is way more interesting than I knew. But it's so depressing to me.

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    I was debating whether or not to do this post ... but since you found the thread for me DT ... here it is.

    I've been reading a sci-fi book written in 1979 by Barbara Paul, It's about time-traveling 'consciousness'. In the book they visit several notable personages and the 1st or last person that guesses who it might be wins today's 'Beastly' Award.

    Hint: It's not the Beast of Bologna OR Machete.
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    I just heard a great phrase that I don't know the origin of:

    "You can't learn from history if you make history up."

    I love it.

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    This is what losers do.



    And they're still losers.

    They complained about rigging, failed in their rigging, and now want to rig even more.

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    Hillary would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddlin' kids!


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL3jnJnm3_s

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Hillary would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddlin' kids!


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL3jnJnm3_s
    So NOW I know why it happened,
    Whatever is true. Whatever is noble. Whatever is right. Whatever is lovely. Whatever is admirable. Anything of excellence and worthy of praise. Dwell on these things. Jesus Christ (I agree)

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    Ruh-Roh.


    There are real children in real peril. And this evil that calls itself Qanon wants to take eyes away from that to chase ghosts.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Ruh-Roh.


    There are real children in real peril. And this evil that calls itself Qanon wants to take eyes away from that to chase ghosts.
    It's a fetish, by definition misplaced sexual desire. It's hard to determine the true root problem, but I would throw out my conjecture. Racial fetish. That might be no more than another conspiracy theory but it all fits and the pattern always repeats itself. And the context ... plenty of contexts... Civil War, an existentially driven racial animus. It is an underlying racial fetish engendered at times of sexual discovery which had in its incipience festered since toddlerhood. Once imprinted the racial fetish morphs into its various manifestations specific to the individual's psyche.

    Something is seriously jacked up. Surprise! Surprise!
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