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    Yes that’s true. The Old Testament is the old covenant. Jesus brought a vastly different message. U will notice that any Christian that wants to pretend a belief in true Christianity always defaults to the Old Testament. It is an philosophical anachronism to do so. It is shameful if not evil.
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    After about 5 years I thought I would give Burger King another chance. I tried their Impossible Burger. It was nearly impossible to eat. Simply horrible.
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    I've had some good veggie burgers but I haven't tried the Impossible Burger.

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    I wouldn't suggest it...but if you do...don't get cheese on it. Cheez Whiz doesn't add a thing to the taste...
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    Mystery 'meat' topped with Wiz.

    Ugh.

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    Coincidentally a book I'm reading right now called, "American Gods" has a tv series also going right now.

    It's interesting because the term American Gods has a "duel" meaning. Some of the American Gods are actually gods that migrated from Europe with the European immigrants. An example would be leprechauns. Awhile back I saw a specialist in human myths pose the question of why Leprechauns are only seen in Ireland...Well, this book has the answer... When Leprechauns migrate out of Ireland they lose their 'indigenous' appearance. The Leprechaun in the book is HUGE and likes to fight for his own ends. The other types of American Gods are to give an example...technological indigenous AND the final war is on. I would recommend the series.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Can I request that Fred not be allowed to thank any post that he knows is going to piss me off because it pisses me off
    After careful consideration, I've decided that the above needs highlighting. This is not an example of the true Left that I embrace, which is live and let live, freedom of speech, power to the people and all of that.

    No, not only is this juvenile like go crying to the teacher in grade school, but it's also a perfect example of the new up and coming Authoritarian Left, the SJW types, who are indeed all live and let live/power to the people/free speech types, but ONLY for those whom they agree with; those who don't piss them off. They seek to shut down opinions and speech they don't like, or that they find offensive, and this is precisely why the SJW type should never have they're hands on levers of power.

    This statement displays all the ingredients of what could potentially be one of Castaneda's "Petty Tyrants" if given the right set of circumstances. For instance, imagine the implications of being pulled over by a cop with this attitude, if he was offended by say, your smart ass political bumper sticker. Not a good situation, for the driver anyway...

    Remember, the 1ST Amendment was not intended for speech that everyone would generally agree on, it was specifically intended for speech that some might find objectionable, possibly even so objectionable that some might seek to shut it down.

    Our Constitutional reminder of the day.

    I know the 1ST Amendment is not the law in forum land, but a decent forum still favors the sentiment that all should be heard. Within reason of course.
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    I don't normally monitor this thread anymore, but the following does warrant that I post this little message...

    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Can I request that Fred not be allowed to thank any post that he knows is going to piss me off because it pisses me off
    After careful consideration, I've decided that the above needs highlighting. This is not an example of the true Left that I embrace, which is live and let live, freedom of speech, power to the people and all of that.

    No, not only is this juvenile like go crying to the teacher in grade school, but it's also a perfect example of the new up and coming Authoritarian Left, the SJW types, who are indeed all live and let live/power to the people/free speech types, but ONLY for those whom they agree with; those who don't piss them off. They seek to shut down opinions and speech they don't like, or that they find offensive, and this is precisely why the SJW type should never have they're hands on levers of power.
    As it just so happens to be, I've had a very painful run-in ─ about ten days ago ─ with the exact same kind of "social justice warriors" as you describe here-above, over at the Manjaro forum, because as a mildly dyslexic non-native English speaker, I had the audacity of saying that I'm only sexually attracted to ─ and I quote ─ "real women", by which I meant to imply "women who were born as women, with double-X chromosome pairs." Apparently I should have used the term "natal women" instead. And I probably would have, had I ever heard or read that term before. But I hadn't.

    It was in a private message thread with multiple people, and one of them ─ a still fairly young US American woman, although I don't know her exact age ─ helps out at a center for transgender integration. She blew up on me, and she chewed me up and spat me out over my use of those words. I apologized and clarified what I meant, but apparently that wasn't good enough, because then another woman ─ an Australian ─ who had been partaking in that exchange threw up a genuine Hollywood drama routine, which stigmatized me even more and made me look like some kind of monster. The US American woman accepted my apology, though.

    Both of these women were supposed to have been friends of mine. So after the first one blew up on me in full streetwise-potty-mouth-style, the atmosphere was already tainted, and I was now wearing a big fat bulls-eye on my forehead, especially given that this was a private thread with only a small number of participants ─ PMs are like regular threads over there, and you can invite people to join the conversation, just as you can also remove yourself from the conversation if there are more than two interlocutors. And for the record, there are actually transgenders registered over at the Manjaro forum ─ at least two that I know of with certainty, but there are probably more, and a third forum member was also mentioned as being a transgender, although that has not been confirmed yet ─ although no transgenders had been involved with this private exchange. Had that been the case, then I would have weighed my words a little more carefully.

    So after that US American woman blew up on me, it felt awkward to me to still remain involved with that thread ─ which, by the way, in and of itself had nothing to do with the concept of transgenders, because it was just a random chat thread ─ because I had just been singled out. And then that Aussie woman just had to go and make it all ten times worse, simply because she has a histrionic personality and an addiction to tear-jerking drama ─ I kid you not, this is a woman who actually cries and slips into a depression because of climate change.

    I saw no other option but to remove myself from that thread. The Aussie woman had already done that herself as well, as part of her big back-of-the-hand-against-the-forehead drama performance. But I felt dirty, like I was standing in the middle of a large room full of people with excrement and urine on my clothes and on my face. There was no possible way that this incident could have been wiped under the rug anymore.

    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    This statement displays all the ingredients of what could potentially be one of Castaneda's "Petty Tyrants" if given the right set of circumstances. For instance, imagine the implications of being pulled over by a cop with this attitude, if he was offended by say, your smart ass political bumper sticker. Not a good situation, for the driver anyway...
    Indeed not, and I find it alarming that this sort of behavior is becoming more and more mainstream. And if we have to stick a political orientation to it, then in my humble opinion, this sort of behavior is as far removed from "the left" as it could possible ever get.

    This is authoritarianism, and ─ I'm sorry to have to bring it up ─ this was the exact same kind of thing as I was exposed to when I confronted the QAnon followers upon my return to Project Avalon. They too were championing freedom of speech and they were decrying censorship where there wasn't any, while in the same breath they were requesting from the staff that I be censored.

    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Remember, the 1ST Amendment was not intended for speech that everyone would generally agree on, it was specifically intended for speech that some might find objectionable, possibly even so objectionable that some might seek to shut it down.

    Our Constitutional reminder of the day.

    I know the 1ST Amendment is not the law in forum land, but a decent forum still favors the sentiment that all should be heard. Within reason of course.
    The One Truth will always respect our members' freedom of speech.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Coincidentally a book I'm reading right now called, "American Gods" has a tv series also going right now.

    It's interesting because the term American Gods has a "duel" meaning. Some of the American Gods are actually gods that migrated from Europe with the European immigrants. An example would be leprechauns. Awhile back I saw a specialist in human myths pose the question of why Leprechauns are only seen in Ireland...Well, this book has the answer... When Leprechauns migrate out of Ireland they lose their 'indigenous' appearance. The Leprechaun in the book is HUGE and likes to fight for his own ends. The other types of American Gods are to give an example...technological indigenous AND the final war is on. I would recommend the series.
    Neil Gaiman is a genius. He also wrote "Coraline" and "Good Omens" and oh how could I forget, "The Sandman!"

    I wonder how many people use their laptops on their laps, vs. tables and other hard surfaces.

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    True about Gaiman...I just now have realized that he exists... I use my notebook on a soft surface...which can be frustrating some times
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    So floppy. I use my lap. Sturdy enough but it makes my legs rather warm.

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    Quote Originally posted by RogueEllis View Post
    So floppy. I use my lap. Sturdy enough but it makes my legs rather warm.
    floppy is me...
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    As per the editing of post above:

    Last edited by Aragorn, Today at 13:40. Reason: no ad hominems!
    FWIW I was good with what he said Aragorn. He was speaking his mind the best he knows how, and I respect that.
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    Yes Fred that is the best I can do. Brilliant observation and suspiciously close to an ad hominem. Yet there it f@cking stands. Just like the 3 or 4 others you have leveled at me the last couple of weeks. I even let one go because I understand we all get frustrated always losing but you crossed the line and I responded in kind. In truth your authoritarian street stalker attitude has always been extremely irritating to me but I still supported you because I figured at least you weren’t a racist and that’s an admirable quality. But now that you and Aragorn have become a thing I can’t help but believe that loyalties and judgment have been suffering for a good while.

    Ive given you all the tools you need Fred to get me off this board. The ball is in your court.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Yes Fred that is the best I can do. Brilliant observation and suspiciously close to an ad hominem.
    It is criticism, not ad hominem. And it's still a whole lot better than what you've been gratuitously hurling at Fred, and what I had to remove from your posts.

    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    [...] But now that you and Aragorn have become a thing I can’t help but believe that loyalties and judgment have been suffering for a good while.
    If you "can't help believing" that, then perhaps you need a good hard reality check. Know thyself, and all that jazz.

    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Ive given you all the tools you need Fred to get me off this board. The ball is in your court.
    And I have informed you of the ability to add Fred to your ignore list if you feel offended by what he writes. But I guess you "can't help yourself" either, given that you seem to want to see what he writes.
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