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    Ok, no takers. The answer was, there is no answer, it could be anything we want it to be. Politics is not a disease, it is a sympton that if ignored can and would be eventually fatal. It is a dominant aspect of reality that we all live in and about no matter how badly we want to escape facing it. We don't have to do that and that is what captures my attention, the denial and the refusal to accept that our minds are constantly fighting to maintain the facade that supports our distorted sense of reality. That's big folks and I apologize to all that are made uncomfortable by having to confront it. My mission is to break down the barrier.
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    I concede, I am one sick and diseased human being:

    Poll Finds 54% Of Americans Approve Executing Trump But Leaving Him In Office

    http://www.mysweetlondon.com/poll-fi...fice-the-onion
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    Some really good headlines currently on the web: They can be easily googled.

    Safety Experts Recommend Shouting ‘Free Donuts’ Instead Of ‘Rape’ To Receive Help More Quickly!
    Yovanovitch Testifies That She Was Removed To Make Way For Corrupt Back Channel But Gets If No One Cares About Anything Anymore!
    Nation Perplexed By 16-Year-Old Who Doesn’t Want World To End!
    Poll Shows Support For Impeachment Weakest Among Uncontacted Amazonian Tribes Who Know Nothing Of Our Ways!
    ‘Again, Again, Again!’ Exclaims Clapping, Grinning Trump After Sixth Time Watching Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi Death Video!
    GOP Lawmakers Watch Silently As Trump Strangles Each Of Their Loved Ones In Turn!
    Trump Confirms That It Was Iran Or Some Country Like That Behind Saudi Oil Attacks!
    ‘Please Guide Me In My Darkest Hour Lord,’ Prays Trump Kneeling Before Portrait Of Himself!
    Trump Furiously Searching Raytheon Catalog For Gift After Realizing He Promised China And Ukraine Same Javelin Missile!
    White House Unveils Lightly Edited Memorandum Of U.S. Constitution That Specifically Declares Trump’s Innocence!
    Vindman Says Ukraine Transcript Left Out Lengthy Sections Of Trump Bragging About Time He Was In Pizza Hut Commercial!
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Some really good headlines currently on the web: They can be easily googled.

    Safety Experts Recommend Shouting ‘Free Donuts’ Instead Of ‘Rape’ To Receive Help More Quickly!
    Yovanovitch Testifies That She Was Removed To Make Way For Corrupt Back Channel But Gets If No One Cares About Anything Anymore!
    Nation Perplexed By 16-Year-Old Who Doesn’t Want World To End!
    Poll Shows Support For Impeachment Weakest Among Uncontacted Amazonian Tribes Who Know Nothing Of Our Ways!
    ‘Again, Again, Again!’ Exclaims Clapping, Grinning Trump After Sixth Time Watching Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi Death Video!
    GOP Lawmakers Watch Silently As Trump Strangles Each Of Their Loved Ones In Turn!
    Trump Confirms That It Was Iran Or Some Country Like That Behind Saudi Oil Attacks!
    ‘Please Guide Me In My Darkest Hour Lord,’ Prays Trump Kneeling Before Portrait Of Himself!
    Trump Furiously Searching Raytheon Catalog For Gift After Realizing He Promised China And Ukraine Same Javelin Missile!
    White House Unveils Lightly Edited Memorandum Of U.S. Constitution That Specifically Declares Trump’s Innocence!
    Vindman Says Ukraine Transcript Left Out Lengthy Sections Of Trump Bragging About Time He Was In Pizza Hut Commercial!
    Congratulations, NotAPretender! Among those eleven headlines, you've managed to include as much as three that have nothing to do with Donald Trump or the Ukraine affair.

    Here's a more interesting mainstream news headline for you, befitting this alternative community... Watch, and learn.


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    You will never believe this Aragorn, but I'm down with that...I've calmed down to a simmer at this point...I've learned the only way I can stay on this board and post productive content is to steer clear of the great and powerful Fred.

    His life revolves around politics, yet he comes here and proclaims he's not into it. That is disingenuous if not downright dishonest. He wins only because you personally have a true aversion to politics and I can dig that. I've been perusing the web to find something cool to post and have found a few good ones. In fact, you have motivated me to do just that. I've got to say it just one more time, though. Political labels are not my thing. Honesty is my thing and when I see purposeful deceit...I get cranked up to a level that I have great difficulty controlling. I fear it might be my very own narcissistic tendencies...But I can always rely on the Hegelian Dialectic to talk myself down from the precipice. Peace friend and I really mean that...I'm about to embark on a different intellectual journey...

    Incidentally, that is a fascinating headline...and i'm reading it right now...in between cat meows...
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    "It's those damn alien things, again!" Airline pilot to military air traffic controller

    Dyson Spheres:
    https://www.cnet.com/news/tabbys-boy...tures-dimming/
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    Secretive X-37B space plane returns to Earth, two years on
    The Air Force says that the almost one-of-a-kind spacecraft "conducted on-orbit experiments" in the the longest-ever mission for the X-37B.

    One of my co-workers was actually the Ground Control Officer in charge of the initial test flights: What was weird about the whole thing is that many members of the NASA community were fully aware of the test flights. It was 'kind of' a 'keep it on the down low thing but certainly not secret...By that I mean there were no official NASA mandates to not speak about it.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/secretive-...-two-years-on/
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    You will never believe this Aragorn, but I'm down with that...I've calmed down to a simmer at this point...I've learned the only way I can stay on this board and post productive content is to steer clear of the great and powerful Fred.

    His life revolves around politics, yet he comes here and proclaims he's not into it. That is disingenuous if not downright dishonest. He wins only because you personally have a true aversion to politics and I can dig that. I've been perusing the web to find something cool to post and have found a few good ones. In fact, you have motivated me to do just that. I've got to say it just one more time, though. Political labels are not my thing. Honesty is my thing and when I see purposeful deceit...I get cranked up to a level that I have great difficulty controlling. I fear it might be my very own narcissistic tendencies...But I can always rely on the Hegelian Dialectic to talk myself down from the precipice. Peace friend and I really mean that...I'm about to embark on a different intellectual journey...

    Incidentally, that is a fascinating headline...and i'm reading it right now...in between cat meows...
    I know all kinds of people who walk away from discussions when they're not winning. They label the other person, accuse them of not understanding their specific words rather than the issue at hand, argue such narrow points that the discussion becomes meaningless, and more. There are a lot of fallacies going around and they sound like good talking points so folks just throw them out.

    When I was in my twenties our friend Bob would regularly insult people with the 'liberal' label and then walk away. In his wake, his friends would all apologize for him:

    "Oh don't take it personally, He's just really patriotic." "Oh, it's not you, he's just really patriotic."

    Since the '80's(in my experience), folks have been openly rude to perceived liberals and used patriotism as an excuse. It's nothing new.

    Mark Twain very accurately observed that patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels.

    And he was right.

    The hearings we just had on impeachment showed that in spades.

    Grandstanding, comparing Trump to Lincoln and then Jesus.

    It's certainly not a both-sider thing.

    Just 'cause folks bang that drum endlessly doesn't make it true.

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    So True...Rush Limbaugh, the narcissist tapped into the universal buttons of most everyone. The 16% who are both intellectually and emotionally challenged fell for the bs because it felt so good to them and the 2-4% of empaths were so outraged they couldn't help but be drawn in. Those in the middle weren't even listening but through a natural osmotic process began to acclimate to the social ambience.

    And the rest is history, Limbaugh is rich and powerful and still leading the national dysfunction drum beat.

    It is a last gasp, even society en toto is coming to its senses...Those that were sleep walking but possess a core of decency have reached their own place of righteous indignation...finally.

    Our reality demands that we inch toward social democracy. It is the only way.

    a socialist system of government achieved by democratic means.
    "there was a growth of social democracy through an extension of the rights of citizens"
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    Our president is openly suggesting violence of Americans against Americans.

    He's lamenting the lost days when protestors were shot and fire-hosed, arrested and beaten.

    He's talking about vast swaths of Americans hating their own country.

    These are very dangerous things for a US President to say.

    Very dangerous.

    There has never been another President who has used the bully pulpit for such destructive purposes.

    And Putin just came out in support of Trump's rhetoric regarding the Dems and their supposed emotions.


    I think my favorite late night comedian joke recently was the change to the Republican party logo:

    It's not an elephant anymore. It's an ostrich with its head in the sand.

    So apropos.



    I'm thinking about embroidering it for my brother.

    I should make a patch.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Congratulations, NotAPretender! Among those eleven headlines, you've managed to include as much as three that have nothing to do with Donald Trump or the Ukraine affair.

    Here's a more interesting mainstream news headline for you, befitting this alternative community... Watch, and learn.


    This is interesting. I much prefer the idea of Dyson Spheres. I'll admit, the first thing I thought of was the Death Star. But if stars had been destroyed, the telescopes would see evidence, correct?

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    certainly seems like there would be evidence, even a natural process like the formation of black holes or supernovas would leave a great trail of energy. One thing possible would be the same explanation that is used 'against' Tabby's star which are dust clouds occluding the energetic shine. That's a whole lot of dust though...maybe dark matter or energy. Dyson spheres go a long way in explaining both the star holes AND the Fermi Paradox.
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    Earliest known cave art by modern humans found in Indonesia
    Pictures of human-like hunters and fleeing mammals dated to nearly 44,000 years old

    The drawings are nearly twice as old as any previously known narrative scenes. Photograph: Ratno Sardi/Griffith University
    Cave art depicting human-animal hybrid figures hunting warty pigs and dwarf buffaloes has been dated to nearly 44,000 years old, making it the earliest known cave art by our species.

    The artwork in Indonesia is nearly twice as old as any previous hunting scene and provides unprecedented insights into the earliest storytelling and the emergence of modern human cognition.

    Previously, images of this level of sophistication dated to about 20,000 years ago, with the oldest cave paintings believed to be more basic creations such as handprints.

    “We were stunned by the implications of this image,” said Adam Brumm, an archaeologist at the Australian Research Centre for Human Evolution at Griffith University. “This was just mind-boggling because this showed us that this was possibly the oldest rock art anywhere on the face of this planet.”

    The painting, discovered in 2017, is one of hundreds in South Sulawesi, including a red hand stencil, which was dated to at least 40,000 years ago. But the latest finding is exceptional as it is more than twice as old as any previously known narrative scenes and hints at ancient myths and an early capacity for imagination.

    “It suggested to us that this extraordinary scene suggests a story or some kind of myth,” said Brumm.

    The 4.5-metre-wide panel shows six fleeing mammals – two Sulawesi warty pigs and four dwarf buffaloes, known as anoas, small but fierce animals that still inhabit the island’s dwindling forests. The animals are being pursued by human-like figures with some animal features (academics call these therianthropes), who seem to be wielding long swords or ropes. Their bodies are human-shaped but one appears to have the head of a bird and another has a tail.

    The art was found after an expedition member noticed what appeared to be an entrance to a high-level chamber above. Photograph: Ratno Sardi/Griffith University

    Human-animal hybrids occur in the folklore of almost every modern society and are frequently cast as gods, spirits or ancestral beings in religions across the world.

    “The most fascinating aspect is it has all the key elements of modern human cognition,” said Prof Maxime Aubert, an archaeologist at Australia’s Griffith University. “Hand stencils, a narrative scene, human-like figures that were conceived of something that doesn’t really exist in the real world. Everything is there by 44,000 years ago.”

    The cave is in a well-explored system, which researchers had visited frequently over the past decade. The discovery was made after an expedition member noticed what appeared to be an entrance to a high level chamber above and climbed up a fig tree to investigate. “And then, bang, there’s this incredible new rock art site in there that’s essentially like nothing we’ve ever seen before in this entire region,” said Brumm.

    The dwarf buffalo species pictured still inhabits forests on the island. Photograph: Maxime Aubert/PA
    Rock art is difficult to date, and the scientists relied on analysing mineral growths known as cave popcorn, that had formed over the painting. Measuring the radioactive decay of uranium and other elements in the deposits gave dates ranging from 35,100 to 43,900 years as a minimum age for the Sulawesi discovery. The findings are described in the journal Nature.

    “It’s just amazing and to me it just shows how much more rock art that is out there waiting to be discovered that completely changes our understanding of the human story,” said Brumm.

    Before this latest discovery, the oldest undisputed examples of figurative cave art date to about 35,000 years old. The oldest cave art on record is abstract forms attributed to Neanderthals, which have been dated to 64,000 years old. The art features lines, dots and animal-like shapes.
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    Mildly interesting movie:

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