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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    but we know that we have free will
    Or at least we have the illusion of free will...

    Thanks for that Wind, I may consider watching his latest movie now...
    The Mule is his latest movie where he is acting himself too after a decade. Haven't seen it yet, but I enjoyed Gran Torino a lot.

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    Gran Torino was a good story...I've been feeling the urge to watch the Mule but have thus far resisted. I'll probably watch it now...
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    I got another badge! Implications of being amoral are certainly a first. No one that knows me has thought that for an iota of a second. My son would laugh (politely) in anyone's face who implied such a thing. And then he would calmly explain why they were wrong.

    I really like this one. So much that even though I don't do machine embroidery, I may still attempt a hand-stitch. Perfect for the Day of Wrong.



    For those who still don't understand, I wear the name-calling like a badge. It's an honor.

    I have always thought for myself to the great frustration of my parents and husband. (still married, 27 yrs) I'm certainly not going to stop now. I have never jumped on a bandwagon. I don't join clubs. I'm not tribal.

    Some people can't see beyond their own bubbles.

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    Amoral...omigod. I'm now sad...Why are we so deluded? Save the World should be the beacon call...

    I know why, because we are weak...that's it...a lack of 'intestinal fortitude' (I haven't seen or heard that one for such a long time). When we lack the power of conviction, we should be strong enough to either find a way to be where we want to be or meditate, see a psychiatrist...there are many things we can do, but admittedly it is a process...

    A really basic truism is one that Schmactenberger pointed out and it is true for all of us. The power of the keyboard has outsized the impact that we are capable of making.
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    Another active shooter situation going on in Midland-Odessa Texas. I was in love when I was a student in Lubbock Texas with the sexiest dang thing I ever had seen from Midland-Odessa. I hope she is ok...


    Coincidentally that city was one of the places I made a business trip when working for that computer company as a student. It was Halloween and I remember relating a story to a co-worker when driving there. I asked him if he believed me and he said no, that I was just telling ghost stories because it was Hallow's Eve. I didn't realize that it was until he mentioned it. Listened to Peter Gabriel (his choice), mine was Enigma.

    On the way back, we accidentally hit a rabbit and it scared the living you know what out of us. The sickening part was the next day I realized the rabbit had gotten stuck on the front of the car...ugh, disgusting.

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    My next door neighbor was a PhD student from Romania...I asked him one time if he'd ever heard of Cretu...he said, of course...I didn't know Enigma was even connected...shoulda known
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    A 2-year old...that truly is beyond tragic...truly...

    A 17-month old actually.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Sickening...
    he transitioned from conservatism to liberalism...that requires a high degree of courage. What do I think of an individual that transitions from liberalism to conservatism? Does that ever happen?

    In either case, I suspect that it isn't a 'political' transformation, but rather a 'spiritual' transformation.
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    You mean Cenk? Perhaps it just means that he "matured" instead of becoming greedy.

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    not to be flippant but I would consider those two seemingly different ideas as representing the same process...
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    We live in a populist age – but who are ‘the people’?

    It is therefore important not to blithely conflate different populist and grassroots movements. The left-wing movements championing greater inclusion are plainly very different from right-wing ones keen on reinforced or increased exclusion. But despite their profound differences, they have one thing in common: they claim to represent a supposedly victimised popular majority, “the people”.

    Exactly who these “people” actually are is far from clear. All sides are embroiled in an ongoing struggle to determine how to define which populations count and which do not. Lost in the public outcry regarding populism is a deeper conflict over who matters socially, economically and politically.

    But populism doesn’t just appeal with an “us-versus-them” attack on elites; it also offers its supporters a passionate sense of solidarity. It mobilises individuals and communities under a common identity, one that can be socially invigorating and politically empowering. Populism is therefore an opportunity to dramatically redefine the political landscape, and to fill the relatively vacuous term of the “people” with any of various new meanings.

    The ideology driving these demands and identities is therefore of paramount importance. The resurgence of authoritarian and fascist rhetoric speaks to the dangers of demagogues playing on the dissatisfaction of the majority for the creation of a more repressive and less equitable social order. However, the infusing of progressive ideals with a populist spirit can catalyse movements and identities that broaden politics to reach previously invisible groups.

    Ultimately, these sorts of political movements should always be thought of as beginnings, not ends in themselves. Radical, inclusive politics should be much more than a critique of those at the top; it needs to be an ongoing debate over who “we” are and how “we” can be empowered. In an age when the forces of xenophobia and nativism are on the rise, these concerns are perhaps more timely than ever before. Modern politics isn’t just a struggle between left-populists and right-populists: it’s a race to define and expand who the “people” are and what they can achieve together.

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    Our country is supposed to be about the people.

    "We the People..."

    Nowadays, if you want to promote a program which helps people you get called "socialist".

    We're giving our Founding Fathers a big fat Finger.

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    Another excellent presentation by Scientist Jablonski. She discusses the 'hard' selective pressures of skin depigmentation. Two waves of out of Africans depigmented due to Vitamin D process and reproduction. Failure to process Vitamin D means no children...now that is pressure. She remarks on the found genes in Neanderthals that evidenced lighter skin and red hair, I wonder if modern humans/homo sapiens would have considered the Neanderthals 'giants'. They certainly were more robust.

    I have always thought that the proscriptions against 'racial' mixing in the Bible cited by Fundamentalists relates directly to primordial human types

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    In my DNA research one thing puzzled me. The more Neanderthal variants governing height that one has, the taller one is likely to be. According to researchers Neanderthals were not taller just more robust, I wonder if that is one of things that we are lied to about.
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