Chaos and the Anti-Thread

[Dreamtimer]

Dang. 10K. I have to agree with your decision.

Let us know what you see.

[Dreamtimer]

When our leaders extol and promote violence, guess what? It happens.

[In the US] At least 50 people were killed by an attacker connected to right-wing extremism in 2018, an increase of 35 per cent from the previous year, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) found.

The rise means nearly three-quarters of extremist murders in America in the past decade can be linked to right-wing domestic terrorism, more than three times as many as those committed by Islamists.

The figures should “serve as a wake-up call to everyone about the deadly consequences of hateful rhetoric,” said the ADL, a New York-based organisation with monitors antisemitism and other hate crime.

The ADL counted each murder in which the killer or suspect had links to right-wing extremist groups or ideology - including white supremacism, Islamophobia, antisemitism, or misogyny. However, not all of the killings have been established as motivated by extremism.

According to the ADL's calculation, last year was the deadliest for right-wing extremist murders in the US since 1995, when Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people in the Oklahoma City bombing.

When all forms of extremism are taken into account, 2018 was the fourth deadliest for domestic terrorism in America since 1970, the ADL said. The rise can partly be attributed to the high casualty numbers in five mass shootings which accounted for 38 of the 50 deaths last year.

However, the percentage of extremist deaths linked to right-wing ideologies has also surged in the past two years. In 2017, 62 per cent of extremist murders were committed by ring-wing killers. That figure was itself up from 21 per cent in 2016, according to the ADL, which said the increase reflected a long-term trend.

In the past decade, 73.3 per cent of all extremist-related killings in the US were committed by right-wing domestic extremists. Some 23.4 per cent were linked to Islamic extremism.

Jacob Davey, who co-leads research into the extreme right at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue in London, said the threat of far right violence was growing internationally “The global atmosphere...is becoming more polarised. This is empowering and emboldening right-wing voices and it’s creating an environment which makes it quite easy for individuals and groups to profit off this polarisation and drive division further.

“We are also seeing some really concerted international propaganda efforts to stoke this global atmosphere of fear and hatred.”

Mr Davey said digital communications had “lowered the barrier of entry” for involvement in extremist movements, while Donald Trump’s presidency had also “empowered right-wing activists through dog whistle tactics”.

(we discussed dog-whistles on this forum)

White supremacists carried out 39 of the extremist killings in America last year, according to ADL, although it noted one of those had become interested in radical Islam before stabbing a 13-year-old to death in Florida in March.

Eleven of those murdered in 2018 were worshippers shot dead at the Tree of Life synagogue on Pittsburgh in October. The suspected shooter, Robert Bowers, 46, allegedly shouted antisemitic abuse as he carried out the attack.

“For too long, policymakers have focused disproportionate attention on the threat of Islamist extremism, to the detriment of readiness to address many other security issues,” it said.

Last year the Washington DC-based Centre for Strategic and International Studies warned far right terror attacks on American soil had quadrupled over two years.

“US federal and local agencies need to shift some of their focus and intelligence resources to penetrating far-right networks and preventing future attacks,” said Seth Jones, chair of the centre’s transnational threats project.

Perhaps this could be on the Collapse thread since extremism is part of chaos and will bring about Collapse...

[Dreamtimer]

Just what is an Agent Provocateur? Could the following list perhaps be an indicator?


Have that agent relax sanctions on the leader’s country. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent antagonize the country’s allies. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent sow discord in the country with hateful divisive rhetoric. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent attack the countries institutions, particularly the Justice Department, and install cronies in the leadership of these institutions. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent pull the country out of multinational trade and security alliances. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent implement crazy economic trade sanctions to weaken its economy. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent heap praise on the foreign leader. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent go to extraordinary lengths to conceal communications with the foreign leader. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent regurgitate obscure dishonest talking points to serve the foreign leader’s propaganda purposes.✔ CHECK

HAVE THAT AGENT SHUT DOWN THE COUNTRY’S ENTIRE GOVERNMENT ON THE BASIS OF SOME STUPID CONTRIVED RATIONALE, AND NOT REOPEN IT DESPITE ENORMOUS POLITICAL, SECURITY, SOCIAL AND FINANCIAL DAMAGE, THEREBY CRIPPLING THE COUNTRY. ✔ CHECK


I fear we're bonked.

[Emil El Zapato]

there is an answer: firing squad...

As for Tom Delonge...I've had those security clearances in the past but not currently active. I don't know about requiring a clearance to get them...unless, they were in fact issued by the military?

[Chris]

Just what is an Agent Provocateur? Could the following list perhaps be an indicator?


Have that agent relax sanctions on the leader’s country. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent antagonize the country’s allies. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent sow discord in the country with hateful divisive rhetoric. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent attack the countries institutions, particularly the Justice Department, and install cronies in the leadership of these institutions. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent pull the country out of multinational trade and security alliances. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent implement crazy economic trade sanctions to weaken its economy. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent heap praise on the foreign leader. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent go to extraordinary lengths to conceal communications with the foreign leader. ✔ CHECK

Have that agent regurgitate obscure dishonest talking points to serve the foreign leader’s propaganda purposes.✔ CHECK

HAVE THAT AGENT SHUT DOWN THE COUNTRY’S ENTIRE GOVERNMENT ON THE BASIS OF SOME STUPID CONTRIVED RATIONALE, AND NOT REOPEN IT DESPITE ENORMOUS POLITICAL, SECURITY, SOCIAL AND FINANCIAL DAMAGE, THEREBY CRIPPLING THE COUNTRY. ✔ CHECK


I fear we're bonked.

Don't worry DT, this sort of thing happens in other countries all the time and people just get on with their lives nevertheless. In fact, the Trump presidency is almost a carbon copy of Berlusconi's premiership, including the misogyny, the sheer idiocy and incompetence, not to mention the sucking up to Putin.

I remember talking at length with Italians (who lived in the UK) and how disappointed they were with the idiots that voted for him. You'd be hard-pressed to find a more corrupt, sleazy and incompetent man in politics than old Berlo, but of course El Donaldo is giving him a run for his money.

I don't know weather you remember those heady times, but Berlusconi, Sarkozy and Putin were like a triumvirate of bad boys and they partied on the Italian playboy's yacht. These guys are all mob bosses and it's best to treat them that way. Trump will be gone before you know it and someone more competent is very likely to take his place. Anyways Trump's mind is already going, much like Reagan's towards the end, I think he will struggle to complete his first term, if that.

[Aragorn]

[...] In fact, the Trump presidency is almost a carbon copy of Berlusconi's premiership, including the misogyny, the sheer idiocy and incompetence, not to mention the sucking up to Putin.

Yesss! You hit that nail right on the head, Chris.

The resemblance between Donald J. Trump and Silvio Berlusconi as political leaders is simply too uncanny to ignore. They are indeed both...

• incompetent;
• morally corrupt;
• rooted in organized crime;
• racist;
• misogynist; and (last but not least)
• utterly narcissistic.

[Chris]

This one's worth watching again. The Narcissist in chief.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNYZYxLSgPQ


Scary Socialism:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi5OPJ98laE

[Dreamtimer]

Bill's caustic wit always hits the money mark. And he's right. The Dems wuss out so often it's been quite depressing.

Pelosi does get Trump's respect, as much as he's capable of such a thing. It's interesting to watch.

The newer Dems aren't as afraid of Republicans. In fact, they're not afraid at all.

Finally. A one-sided fight is boring.

[Wind]

Roger Stone got arrested, another douchebag bites the dust.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/201...sia-probe.html

[Dreamtimer]

Stone is about to appear in court.

[Fred Steeves]

Seeing as Robert Mueller is the one tasked with uncovering supposed Russian collusion by Captain Chaos and company, and seeing as his own past or ethics are never questioned, I thought this might be of some interest to some. This does beg the question: Why hasn't Mueller himself never been pushed into explaining his actions (or inaction) as assistant US attorney, and then as acting US attorney in Boston, during the time the FBI was colluding with famed mobster Whitey Bulger?

In 2001, the four men convicted of Teddy Deegan’s murder were exonerated. Turned out the FBI let them take the rap to protect one of their informants, a killer named Vincent “Jimmy’’ Flemmi, who just happened to be the brother of their other rat, Stevie Flemmi. Thanks to the FBI’s corruption, taxpayers got stuck with the $100 million bill for compensating the framed men, two of whom, Greco and Tameleo, died in prison.

Albano was appalled that, later that same year, Mueller was appointed FBI director, because it was Mueller, first as an assistant US attorney then as the acting US attorney in Boston, who wrote letters to the parole and pardons board throughout the 1980s opposing clemency for the four men framed by FBI lies.

Of course, Mueller was also in that position while Whitey Bulger was helping the FBI cart off his criminal competitors even as he buried bodies in shallow graves along the Neponset.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/19...G2J/story.html

[Gio]

Seeing as Robert Mueller is the one tasked with uncovering supposed Russian collusion by Captain Chaos and company, and seeing as his own past or ethics are never questioned, I thought this might be of some interest to some. This does beg the question: Why hasn't Mueller himself never been pushed into explaining his actions (or inaction) as assistant US attorney, and then as acting US attorney in Boston, during the time the FBI was colluding with famed mobster Whitey Bulger?


https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/19...G2J/story.html

Captain Chaos and company indeed Fred...

Perhaps Mueller will write a book someday, till then i see no crimes (or even his being derelict in his duties indicated here) ... Besides, Mueller could be fired by El Donaldo Attorney General (s) tomorrow - But there are still dozens of U.S. prosecutors (ready and willing) in the Southern District of New York on his (administrations) ass !

Whitey Bulger And The FBI: What Did Robert Mueller Know And When Did He Know It?

[Emil El Zapato]

Good story Fred,

The sad part is that given the Hoover era...Mueller might still be the 'cleanest' guy around. Just more proof that there really is no justice. Some are more subject to it than others. The lowest and the highest.

[Gio]

And speaking of J Edgar ...

Official and Confidential: The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover

This is the real stuff !

And i was fortunate to know someone who would know ...

"No one exemplified paranoia and secrecy at the heart of American power better than J. Edgar Hoover, the original director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. For this consummate biography, renowned investigative journalist Anthony Summers interviewed more than eight hundred witnesses and pored through thousands of documents to get at the truth about the man who headed the FBI for fifty years, persecuted political enemies, blackmailed politicians, and lived his own surprising secret life. Ultimately, Summers paints a portrait of a fatally flawed individual who should never have held such power, and for so long."

This book will shock/educate even the most political savvy in 20th Century U.S. history, I highly recommend ...
Was hard to put down.

[Maggie]

I'm sure some people have seen this interview between Randy Credico and Abby Martin? IMO Randy Credico represents those of us who have had a sincere impulse to help promote causes for justice. IMO Julian Assange is also a victim of his desire to see truth revealed. Roger Stone is a craven danger to any who came near him but he was able to last for a long time because he "got results". Politics is a place where the sincere always get bashed in the head and thrown in the mud by the Stones. I don't think anything and anyone who gets involved with the realm of politics is able to stay unconcussed and clean.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCCEeK0cofs