Chaos and the Anti-Thread

[Dreamtimer]

It could also be a mouth on a Hadui mask. (false face)

[Emil El Zapato]

My brothers home for 20 years in California had a high school shooting this morning.

My daughter's high school is in lockdown right now due to a suspicious package delivery across the street a few minutes ago.

Bomb's in Beaumont Texas are going off...seems another serial bomber

[Dreamtimer]

Nuts. We've got our problems, sure, but this place is hardly a hell-hole. Why shoot up stuff and plant bombs? What insanity has gripped people? There are opportunities around every corner not to mention plenty of natural beauty. Why shoot up the place?

People are going nuts.

[Wind]

The sad reality, but we are here to counter that.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbPiIwFOQtU

[Dumpster Diver]

You don't seem/look like an older generation folk.
In my view you have to be AT LEAST 70 before I will consider you older generation.
Maybe I am just showing my age too.

I still feel like I am *picks a number from the ether* 27

70 in September...I actually feel younger than I did in my 50s

[Emil El Zapato]

cool, the Dumpster...you are fortunate...I'm working on my attitude about that...The Seth book reminded me that we are what we believe we are...

incidentally, a Ouija board once told me that I would live to age 104... that's what I'm shooting for


One guy I worked with found out my age and remarked that I was going to live past 100...nice corrorboration... but I always get those others like my adopted dad who is 95 and as mean as he was when he was 45 that always tries to discourage me.

[Emil El Zapato]

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaG23Zv_-_8

[Dreamtimer]

Were you part of the earlier Kek discussions here, NAP?

[Emil El Zapato]

If appears witch burning was going out of faddish style around the turn of 1700. About this time, reports of vampirism started to accumulate in Eastern Europe and the focus of ‘supernaturalism’ shifted to that, ostensibly to keep the drumbeat going for the masses amusement. Or perhaps the tricksters wanted to try a new trick. - NAP

Augustin Calmet, The Phantom World – 1746

“The East European vampire was a synthesis of characteristics of five different sets of magical beliefs: ‘the revenants, the nightly pressing spirits, the blood-sucking stryge of Antiquity, those witches from Slavic and Balkan territories who were said to persist in harmful activities after their deaths, and finally the werewolf, a person capable of adopting the form of a wolf in order to attack and devour humans.

For religious writers like Calmet, vampires represented a blasphemous parody of Christian doctrines. Like the uncorrupted remains of saints, the corpses of vampires refused to decay and resurrected themselves every night instead of waiting for the Day of Judgement. Aping the sacrament of the mass they drank the blood of the living, and strange lights like unholy haloes were seen round their graves. It was these grotesque perversions that prompted Calmet to write the treatise which forms this book.

To safeguard Catholic doctrines concerning miracles, the resurrection, the veneration of the saints, and the efficacy of the sacraments, he sought to distinguish these from the blasphemous vanities of peasant beliefs about vampires, and to expose the ignorance that led to mistaken assumptions about phenomena that really had natural causes. Calmet was not only trying to rescue Catholic doctrine from superstitious perversions but also from the onslaughts of atheists and materialists who saw no difference between religious doctrine and popular superstitions.

Unfortunately, Calmet failed to walk this tightrope successfully. His vampire treatise was condemned as uncritical and credulous. Voltaire, who had initially treated Calmet with respect, thereby gaining access to the riches of the library at Senones, later decided that Calmet was a credulous fool. This is a judgement which Henry Christmas, the anti-Catholic translator and editor of The Phantom World, seems to have supported. His introduction [not reprinted] has some very harsh things to say about ‘popery’, ‘superstition’, and ‘human error’. This is both to misunderstand Calmet’s intention and to underestimate his abilities. It’s as useless for Voltaire to criticize him for not being a materialist as ofr Christmas to find him at fault for being a Catholic. Calmet’s mind is clear, he writes with incisive wit and logic, it is a delight to see him deconstructing a story or destroying an argument. Necessarily he brings to his task the constraints of his position and his time, but for anyone interested in the history of ideas that is a bonus not a fault."

[Emil El Zapato]

Were you part of the earlier Kek discussions here, NAP?

I remember vaguely but it didn't really mean anything to me...Am I missing something?

thnx

NAP

[Dreamtimer]

The video you posted was great.

There was an earlier thread with a couple other vids and some discussion. Modwiz has also posted some stuff re Kekistan.

It was recognized as chaos magic.

People like to see a wrench thrown into the works. Joe even said it in his interview w/Matt Taibi. Problem is, what’s the plan? There is none.

Chaos only destroys. It doesn’t build.

[Dreamtimer]

ATL Carver was interviewed and spoke about Kek. Carver wrote a book called You're Imagining Things. I read a review of the book and the video below was embedded. It's a Scottish fellow discussing magic.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvPyipy8erg


This could perhaps go in the Myth and Magic thread as well as the Chaos Magic thread (I believe one was started).

[Emil El Zapato]

The video you posted was great.

There was an earlier thread with a couple other vids and some discussion. Modwiz has also posted some stuff re Kekistan.

It was recognized as chaos magic.

People like to see a wrench thrown into the works. Joe even said it in his interview w/Matt Taibi. Problem is, what’s the plan? There is none.

Chaos only destroys. It doesn’t build.

yeah, I found it by 'accident' mostly but it was what I was looking for...something to explain the bridge between the 'ancient' and the alt-right. This was it in spades.

[Emil El Zapato]

ATL Carver was interviewed and spoke about Kek. Carver wrote a book called You're Imagining Things. I read a review of the book and the video below was embedded. It's a Scottish fellow discussing magic.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvPyipy8erg


This could perhaps go in the Myth and Magic thread as well as the Chaos Magic thread (I believe one was started).

he's referencing Flatland and Broca's Brain...cool

he's talking about the hemisphere's of the brain right now...yeah, I'm familiar with those ideas and they are interesting. In fact, that is why I find justification in despising Aristotle...because his brain wasn't fully developed...


This guy is really interesting...

[Emil El Zapato]

I should be working but what am I doing...ruminating on where we are as a global society...

My thoughts right now...disclaimer: my thoughts are always subject to modification...

There is great power in magic, there has never been any doubt about that...As one of my teacher nuns stated in 5th grade..."Where there is belief, there is power"

There is a power struggle that has continued since the birth of structured religion...Magic or God?

Is Magic a power that is our essence or does religious spirit faith grant us power?

This isn't a question to be answered by force. We have a choice? If one considers that the birth of 'magic' was founded in a tapping of the 'gods good graces', not a power that emanated from us then the dichotomy dissolves. The notion that power is us developed over time as humanity moved away from the need to conjure primeval superstitions because he was 'englightened' by science. He ostensibly no longer cowered in his cave at the sound of thunder and lightning.

But isn't that where the split began? The split between a faith in the 'great creator' and faith in ourselves as supreme beings. Between you and I, I don't want to be a supreme being, there is too much power in that for me to handle...I want to be granted power at a level that I can deal with...Too much power is explosive to the human being. We have seen too many examples of that to deny it.