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    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9GMo0QE7Us

    There is an anomaly called the bystander effect, where individuals are less likely to offer help to a victim when there are other people present; the greater the number of bystanders, the less likely it is that one of them will help. So it can actually be more dangerous to be injured in a busy train station than out in the woods. The bystander effect is such a powerful psychological phenomena that many states and countries have enacted laws to counteract this. The Good Samaritan laws were created to encourage people to step up and help someone who is in trouble. It is seen as our ethical, moral and legal obligation to help when we are able to. Failure to do so can result in fines, lawsuits or in extreme cases, jail time.

    Sadly, many people in modern society spend so much time staring at screens, that they have become detached from reality. When conflict arises, many people’s first reaction is to whip out their phones and record a tragedy unfold. And these tragedies are uploaded to the web for everyone on earth to see. The misfortunes of 7.8 billion people are broadcast onto our screens for us to mindlessly consume to the point where we become numb and disassociate these events from reality. As a result, when real situations happen right in front of us, the conditioned response is to record the event rather than try to offer help.

    With all the chaos in the news and on social media, We can often feel powerless to affect any change on a macro level. How can your kindness and empathy have any impact on tragic events happening on the other side of the world? And the truth is, it can’t. There is nothing you can do to affect the events you see on your screen. The reality is, we can’t change the world. But...we can change ourselves. We have the power to change who we are, to shape ourselves into a beacon of good, to do the right thing, be mindful, be kind, act on compassion and take the high road. And if we all followed in the footsteps of the Good Samaritan, this world would change overnight. You may not be able to change the world, but always remember, you have the power to change yourself, and THAT will change the world. “Be the change you want to see in the world.” - Gandhi

    If you act on compassion when the moment presents itself, you will have a meaningful life. Mark Twain said it best, “You’re never wrong to do the right thing.” So the next time you see someone in need, don’t ask the question “Is this my neighbor?”, the far more important question is, “Am I being a neighbor?” Don’t be the bystander that stays in the dark. Do as the Good Samaritan and you will move closer to a life of purpose.

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    it is an interesting phenomena ... I'm inclined to help and it seems so is my daughter ... she's studying to get a certification as an EMT. Her first step to becoming a medical surgeon (my desire). She has what it takes but I don't think she's realized that fully yet. It might be genetic for her. The desire to help, her physical skills are her own.

    I think it is a matter of 'perceived risk' that the bystander feels.
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    Here's a question for y'all:

    Does grass want to be mown? And look nice to the neighbors? Or do they want to grow to be all they can be? Do flowers want to be pretty and smell good? Do they want to be snipped and sent to love ones to satisfy the loved one's need for validation? Or would flowers just rather be ... left alone?

    I'm serious, I've asked questions like this before and all I ever get in response is "blank space" ...
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Here's a question for y'all:

    Does grass want to be mown? And look nice to the neighbors? Or do they want to grow to be all they can be? Do flowers want to be pretty and smell good? Do they want to be snipped and sent to love ones to satisfy the loved one's need for validation? Or would flowers just rather be ... left alone?

    I'm serious, I've asked questions like this before and all I ever get in response is "blank space" ...
    I think you secretly know the answer to that NAP. Which level do you want to see it from?
    Whatever is true. Whatever is noble. Whatever is right. Whatever is lovely. Whatever is admirable. Anything of excellence and worthy of praise. Dwell on these things. Jesus Christ (I agree)

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    An enigma wrapped in a conundrum, huh? But then what?
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    I'll bite.

    Flowers most certainly want to be attractive and smell good. In particular to their pollinators. If they were left alone they'd never be able to make seeds. That would be bad for them.

    Grass loves humans. We have spread it all over the planet. We keep other plants from crowding it out. And it will flower even if it's mowed. It'll just flower before it grows very tall.

    Have you ever seen chicory? It'll grow a couple feet and then flower. If you mow it it will flower while flat on the ground with barely a stem. It wants to flower big-time. (It's not a grass)

    Nothing in nature is 'left alone'. Nature is a system. When we 'leave it alone', what we really do is let it do its thing, which it knows how to without our interference.

    Grass is like the fox. It lives well near humans.

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    Did you hear? Trump finally admitted that he wants herd mentality. He actually likes people being sheeple. Amazing. His followers are following the opposite of what they've been saying for so many years. I guess that's what happens when a cult-type leader steps in.

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    that's a well thought out answer ... it makes sense. that eases my mind a little but I still wonder how they like being 'cut'?

    Trump the free market guy has a new inspiration on how to promote it: If Tik Tok doesn't sign a deal within his timeline, he will shut it down permanently with no recourse.
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    Since you were talking about flowers.


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    I reckon' it all plays together, but you know the bible has given humans sovereignty over the earth, but it 'could' emphasis on 'could' have been a misinterpretation. All the good things are ours but we 'exploit' So, observation or use? The big question!
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    That's pretty cool, wind. Perhaps, that is the their designated function ... to be 'snipped' ... but does it hurt or cause fear? Are hurt and fear a 'necessary part' of life.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    but does it hurt or cause fear? Are hurt and fear a 'necessary part' of life.
    Well, plants are certainly conscious, but not sentient in the same way as animals or humans would be. Yet it could be argued that they probably do in some sense feel pain. What about fear? Possibly. It is said that suffering is a necessary part of life and growth happens through it, I don't know how needed fear would be though. At least from the perspective of evolution it is there to ensure the survival of said species.

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    Plants are 'cut' when animals eat them. Cut and crushed.

    Plants can send chemical signals to each other. They can change their chemistry to make themselves less appealing to animals/insects which are over-consuming. Certain plants can.

    I'll stop now because I haven't watched the video yet and don't want to be unnecessarily redundant.

    I'll watch that video multiple times just for the flowers opening. I can still recall being a child in class and seeing movies of flowers opening and being mind-blown.

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    My problem with nature has always been the interdependence, yet the greatest 'act' of nature is the promotion of interdependence. The problem ... 'consumption'. If nature had devised a mechanism to allow the interdependence without the need for mutual consumption, we would live in a grand world indeed. Where is that utopia?
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