Chaos and the Anti-Thread

**Wind** · 17th June 2020, 15:25

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

I bet people would outlaw NDEs if they could. I was just listening to a TED talk on the subject. The speaker described his experience being ensconced in total love. He did not want to return.

That's the universal experience. People from all walks of life have described the same feelings. Soldiers who were dying on the battlefield told that they felt a loving presence and they felt totally at peace, wanting to die. Yet the people who were not meant to die didn't die as it was not their time yet. Why do we still fear death if on the other side only love and bliss awaits us? On this side we get to experience all the hardness and suffering. Death is a release from all of that. I've had a few involuntary OBE's btw, mostly induced by sleep paralysis.

**Emil El Zapato** · 17th June 2020, 18:08

Just a thought, and I don't plan on belaboring my point but:

I think the Great and Powerful Wiz is rubbing off on me, I never thought I would get tired of arguing with stupid...but I believe I've just about had my fill. There are plenty fun and entertaining people here to keep at least one motormouth busy for a long time to come...

Pause....for a Political Correctness message....Noo...not really, that was a parting joke...back to work of which I have a lot to do...

**Emil El Zapato** · 17th June 2020, 19:59

Another cop has been charged with murder. Just shows us that life simply isn't fair. These cops have been getting away with this behavior for 400 years and now they are being charged with murder for it. How could they know that there might be a day when it wasn't open season. This like everything else happening right now is absolutely surreal.

**Wind** · 17th June 2020, 20:11

Originally posted by NotAPretender

This like everything else happening right now is absolutely surreal.

It's only going to get more surreal.

**Emil El Zapato** · 17th June 2020, 20:28

No sheeitt, the last time I felt like this was when my dad took us kids to the Barnum and Bailey circus for the 1st time...

**Elen** · 18th June 2020, 09:24

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

I bet people would outlaw NDEs if they could. I was just listening to a TED talk on the subject. The speaker described his experience being ensconced in total love. He did not want to return. He fought the EMTs who were trying to revive him.

He experienced the life review and learned that the purpose of life here is to love.

He said that as more time passes since his NDE, he finds it more difficult to just love everyone. I've never had an NDE, but I can relate to the difficulty.

He's absolutely right and it's a love beyond physical love. It's love that washes you clean in an instant where nothing is wrong. (Drugs cannot imitate it, although I don't blame anybody from trying). Religions has taught us that we're in a competition with each other, there's right and wrong, we must love what's right and hate what's wrong. We exist on a level beyond duality...all of us! There's no punishment when you're wrong, you're never wrong...just having an experience of it. On that level WE ARE ALL ONE.

Never forget that!

**Emil El Zapato** · 18th June 2020, 17:58

Based on John Bolton's book:

this is me: The scariest thing about Trump's appeal is his draw to people. This guy is a flaming authoritarian psychopathic wannabe dictator and 'his people' love it. The same people that lose sleep at night thinking that America could become a socialist nation and that they would be subsequently stripped of their unalienable rights.

They are easily as crazy as he is. The 'root' problem is the double-bind parenting paradigm that was taught to us from...drum roll please... The American Pilgrims, those that branded America with a high calling, and an incipient madness. All I can say is, whoosh!

**Emil El Zapato** · 18th June 2020, 21:30

that stompin' guy that Gio posted is funnier than hell...

**Dreamtimer** · 19th June 2020, 02:18

Bolton sure took his sweet time.

**Aragorn** · 19th June 2020, 02:25

Originally posted by NotAPretender

that stompin' guy that Gio posted is funnier than hell...

Actually, he's not. It's a notoriously violent and shockingly explicit scene from the movie American History X, which is a movie about neo-Nazism and white-supremacy in America. And perhaps you can't see what he's stomping on, but there's a black man lying in the gutter, and he's stomping said man's face/teeth against the curbstone. Not exactly what I would call funny, but your mileage may vary.

**Dreamtimer** · 19th June 2020, 02:26

I found it disturbing.

**Aragorn** · 19th June 2020, 02:47

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

I found it disturbing.

It is.

**Octopus Garden** · 19th June 2020, 07:36

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

Bolton sure took his sweet time.

Two scorpions in a bottle. There is only one person worse than Trump and that's Bolton. Oh wait...Steven Miller. He may be worse than both put together.

**Octopus Garden** · 19th June 2020, 07:43

Originally posted by Wind

That's the universal experience. People from all walks of life have described the same feelings. Soldiers who were dying on the battlefield told that they felt a loving presence and they felt totally at peace, wanting to die. Yet the people who were not meant to die didn't die as it was not their time yet. Why do we still fear death if on the other side only love and bliss awaits us? On this side we get to experience all the hardness and suffering. Death is a release from all of that. I've had a few involuntary OBE's btw, mostly induced by sleep paralysis.

Life scares me more than death. I envy the undead immersed in this amazing sensation of love
I had an epiphany when I was a little girl where I had this feeling for a brief moment. Not from an NDE. Could have been a pre-life memory or a foreshadowing.

**Emil El Zapato** · 19th June 2020, 11:06

My fault, I should have looked closer...The thought that ran through my mind was that it was a depiction of Muhammad Ali...I guess I saw what I wanted to see. I saw that as the message, it was an ego thang I reckon'. That thread itself is out there as far as I'm concerned. It exemplifies the lost soul...and guess what, at this point I just don't care.

Childhood epiphanies are moments we never forget.

I just looked at it, again, indeed, you are correct Aragorn, honest to goodness, I just never saw it until now. That was an ugly movie...but there was a salvation of sorts at the end.