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    Las Vegas Massacre: A Hybrid False-Flag, Treason, or an Act of War?

    This is an article by Robert David Steele published October 6, 2017 at the website for American Herald Tribune.

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    On the evening of 1 October 2017, a mass shooting occurred at the Route 91 Harvest music festival at an open lot directly across from the Luxor Hotel and Casino, and obliquely across from the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on one side and the Excalibur Hotel on the other.

    The official government narrative, immediately parroted by both the mainstream media and Wikipedia, is clearly false. They claim that a single old man, Steven Paddock, a multi-millionaire with a great deal to live for, kicked out the plate glass windows of his hotel room and fired enough rounds from a variety of weapons to allegedly kill 59 and wound 489.

    This is nonsense. Here is what the official narrative is not disclosing:

    1) The Mandalay Hotel has special weapons detectors installed and would never have allowed weapons in unless they were cooperating with either a real federal law enforcement team or a fake law enforcement team (e.g. a Mossad team with impeccable credentials).

    2) A Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) exercise or drill was taking place across the entire city at the time, with many “crisis actors” hired and integrated into the crowd watching the Route 91 music festival.

    3) There was no Emergency Response Team (EMT) of note over the course of many hours – neither for the drill nor for the real dead and wounded. Many more may have died for lack of a proper response caused by confusion and compounded by treason in high places.

    In the several days since the horrific events occurred, a number of sources have come forward and we now speculate that the following may be true:

    1) Steven Paddock was a patsy, gambling until fifteen minutes before the shooting. He had neither the time, strength, training, nor capacity to shoot any number of weapons into a group over 1,000 meters away, nor were the casings for 2,000 or so rounds fired, present in the room. While he may have thought he was part of a federal sting operation against Islamic State of Syria and Iraq (ISIS), he is not the perpetrator.

    2) There were clearly multiple shooters, including at least one with an M-60 belt-fed machine gun, and at least one shooter appears to have used hollow-nosed bullets that fragment and cause massive damage to those they hit.

    3) A great deal of the early “evidence” was a mix of material coming out from the pre-planned drill and the crisis actors playing out their roles and therefore discernably false; and isolated truthful material sharply in conflict with the government narrative and quickly deleted by #GoogleGestapo.

    There are five potential perpetrators of this mass atrocity, in order of probability (in my view), with the clear possibility of there being alliances among them as there was in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

    1) Zio-Cons – US citizens – loyal to Israel. The event is intended to punish Donald Trump for not invading Syria and not supporting the Greater Israel plan;

    2) Zio-Cons – US citizens – loyal to money. Sheldon Adelson and Michael Chertoff are explicitly named by multiple sources as having massive equities in a major budget expansion and new laws following from this massacre, such that they reap tens of billions of dollars in the sale of metal detectors, gun-ranging towers, and intrusive security services including the Superbowl;

    3) Zio-Cons – US citizens – with Satanic blood sacrifice occult interests, now in deep fear of both President Donald Trump’s attempts to drain the swamp (including his strong campaign to arrest pedophiles) and the emergence of populism from the left (Sanders) and right (Trump) to the international arena (Scotland, Catalonia).

    4) Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – the perennial favorite among the conspiracy theorists; others are saying the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) was the lead for the patsy and US military special operations did the shooting – I don’t agree.

    5) The Russian Mafia, in retaliation for the destruction across the USA of a major Russian criminal network, with the Department of Justice charging 33 defendants with a variety of racketeering, fraud, narcotics, firearms, and stolen property offenses. A possible deal between Israel and Russia, accepting Russia as the new balancer of power in the Middle East, is on the margins of this analysis.

    While I have no direct knowledge, from my position as a former spy who has gone on to found the Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) discipline world-wide, and who reads widely, I believe that the US Government (USG) did not knowingly plan or execute this massacre BUT that Zio-Cons in official positions across CIA, FBI, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and FEMA – in charge of the drill – actively committed treason in support of this massacre.

    I suspect that the FBI does have some useful perspectives on who they should be questioning, and I also believe that they are being prevented from going after the top Zio-Cons who should be questioned both intensively, and with the use of polygraphs and if necessary truth-serum.

    For those who doubt that the USG might allow the perpetrators of this horrific event to not only escape but to then go on to profit by selling billions of dollars in unneeded security services and equipment, I have four prior examples of when we have done precisely that:

    The assassination of John F. Kennedy by a CIA team with the hearty support of both the FBI and Israel, Yitzhak Rabin, present in Dallas as the official observer for Israel;
    The assassination of Martin Luther King by an Army sniper on detail to the FBI;
    USS Liberty, strafed and torpedoed by the Israelis, with a deliberate long-running cover-up by the USG led by Lyndon Baines Johnson;
    9/11, planned by Israel, logistically supported by Saudi Arabia, and executed by a mixed team overseen by Dick Cheney who was subsequently protected by the FBI.

    In my view, this tragedy is also an opportunity. Let me spell it out more simply: even if this was an official government massacre using actual CIA and FBI employees in support of a Top Secret “compartmented” massacre on top of an unclassified FEMA drill, the President – and the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and the new Director of the FBI – have an opportunity to investigate, illuminate, indict, and incarcerate. Should they do so, and a billionaire do visible “hard time,” it will change America [URL="https://ahtribune.com/las-vegas-massacre/1938-hybrid-false-flag.html"]for the better and begin the difficult task of restoring the legitimacy of the federal government in the eyes of the public.

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    In my opinion, there is no question that this attack was false flag.

    Exposing the reality of this routine modus operandi of the Deep State is absolutely essential if humanity is ever to become self-directed.

    If we can't handle this, we certainly can't handle disclosure.

    It is crucial that seekers stay on this topic and not give up the fight for the truth.

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    Sound like this “newspaper” is a take off on the old International Herald Tribune which was bought out by the New York Times a while ago. The IHT was widely read by folks overseas and had writers like Art Buchwald, F. Scott Fitzgerald, and Ernest Hemingway.

    I certainly was confused reading here at first.
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    Vegas may never have made the news if the guy hadn't shot anyone. Even if he was caught in the hotel with all his armaments. Here's why:


    On past Friday morning, at 12:39 a.m., security footage from the Asheville Regional Airport in North Carolina showed a man walking through the front doors wearing black clothing and a black cap, while carrying a bag. “Based on a review of the video, the individual walked near the entrance to the terminal, went out of sight momentarily, and was then seen departing the area without the bag,”

    Following the Transportation Security Administration’s protocols, airport security allowed a bomb dog to sniff the bag for explosives and the dog signaled to the team the presence of dangerous materials in the bag. The concourse was then shut down.

    What investigators eventually found in the bag was AN/FO (Ammonium Nitrate/Fuel Oil) explosives...In fact, sharp nails and bullets were found in this improvised explosive device. (That's an IED, folks) Whoever built it designed the bomb to cause horrific bodily harm.

    The man who planted it, it turns out, openly admitted to authorities that he was “preparing to fight a war on U.S. soil” and that this bomb was but one part of that war.

    A Muslim attacker’s mugshot would become a meme across the conservative media. Mainstream American outlets would be covering the heroic bravery of those who thwarted the terrorist plot. . . .

    In this case, though? Crickets. We hear nothing at all — almost exclusively because the man who planted an improvised explosive device, just like ones that have been used to murder and maim people all over the world, was white. His guilt starts and stops with him.

    The story didn’t go viral and Trump didn’t tweet about it because the bomb was not placed by an immigrant, or a Muslim, or a Mexican. It was placed there by a good ol’ white man, Michael Christopher Estes. Unlike the Las Vegas shooter, Stephen Paddock, whose motive is still hard to discern, Estes wanted to be very clear that his ultimate goal was to accelerate a war on American soil.

    Even in terrorism against their own country, White Men are privileged.


    It's not a liberal media when this crap is happening. Ain't nothin' liberal about this kind of double standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Vegas may never have made the news if the guy hadn't shot anyone. Even if he was caught in the hotel with all his armaments. Here's why:


    On past Friday morning, at 12:39 a.m., security footage from the Asheville Regional Airport in North Carolina showed a man walking through the front doors wearing black clothing and a black cap, while carrying a bag. “Based on a review of the video, the individual walked near the entrance to the terminal, went out of sight momentarily, and was then seen departing the area without the bag,”

    Following the Transportation Security Administration’s protocols, airport security allowed a bomb dog to sniff the bag for explosives and the dog signaled to the team the presence of dangerous materials in the bag. The concourse was then shut down.

    What investigators eventually found in the bag was AN/FO (Ammonium Nitrate/Fuel Oil) explosives...In fact, sharp nails and bullets were found in this improvised explosive device. (That's an IED, folks) Whoever built it designed the bomb to cause horrific bodily harm.

    The man who planted it, it turns out, openly admitted to authorities that he was “preparing to fight a war on U.S. soil” and that this bomb was but one part of that war.

    A Muslim attacker’s mugshot would become a meme across the conservative media. Mainstream American outlets would be covering the heroic bravery of those who thwarted the terrorist plot. . . .

    In this case, though? Crickets. We hear nothing at all — almost exclusively because the man who planted an improvised explosive device, just like ones that have been used to murder and maim people all over the world, was white. His guilt starts and stops with him.

    The story didn’t go viral and Trump didn’t tweet about it because the bomb was not placed by an immigrant, or a Muslim, or a Mexican. It was placed there by a good ol’ white man, Michael Christopher Estes. Unlike the Las Vegas shooter, Stephen Paddock, whose motive is still hard to discern, Estes wanted to be very clear that his ultimate goal was to accelerate a war on American soil.

    Even in terrorism against their own country, White Men are privileged.


    It's not a liberal media when this crap is happening. Ain't nothin' liberal about this kind of double standard.
    A very good point Dreamtimer. There is a double standard to equality between people...everywhere, no matter how nicely it's packaged. However, I hope sincerely that people don't think nothing happened, because it was a false flag operation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepTrying View Post
    In my opinion, there is no question that this attack was false flag.
    I wish that Steele did not use the term "hybrid-false flag." I've never heard anyone else use that term, and I don't think it's helpful. I'm not even sure what he means by it.

    A false flag attack simply refers to who the official story blames. It just means that the official story is false. The "false flag" is a reference to pirates fooling whoever they're getting ready to attack by flying their flag as they approach the ship of the target.

    To say something is false flag has nothing to do with whether or not anyone actually dies. That is a separate issue altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepTrying View Post
    I wish that Steele did not use the term "hybrid-false flag." I've never heard anyone else use that term, and I don't think it's helpful. I'm not even sure what he means by it.

    A false flag attack simply refers to who the official story blames. It just means that the official story is false. The "false flag" is a reference to pirates fooling whoever they're getting ready to attack by flying their flag as they approach the ship of the target.

    To say something is false flag has nothing to do with whether or not anyone actually dies. That is a separate issue altogether.
    Part of the problem is listening to people like Steele. It's hard to tell what his motives are but anytime a non-professional claims professionalism there is a serious problem! He doesn't have access to classified info now if he, in fact, ever did. Can anyone actually verify or debunk his claims? I don't think so. That's another BIG problem.

    For Whatever Its Worth: People with classified clearances do not as a habit make it their business to divulge information. That's a simple fact! No matter what anyone says! Legitimate sources that do leak info are tracked down like dogs. Witness the ones that are constantly in the MSM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAPretender View Post
    It's hard to tell what his motives are but anytime a non-professional claims professionalism there is a serious problem! He doesn't have access to classified info now if he, in fact, ever did.
    Steele is retired clandestine operations CIA. He has stated that he has not violated his security oath, however.

    As far as I'm concerned, he is extremely knowledgeable, due to his experience and his pursuit of the knowledge of others from very extensive reading. His reviews of his vast reading attest to his efforts at self-education.

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    Hi Keep,

    you're cool with me, but this guy offers nothing that makes any sense in the real world! A knowledgeable individual by necessity will be driven to allude to some truths acknowledged by consensus reality. Not everything can be a counter-truth. Even an evil Einstein would have difficulty maintaining that kind of an extant set of circumstances. Seriously, call me a zombie but somethings have to line up with what we see on a daily basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Hi Keep,

    you're cool with me, but this guy offers nothing that makes any sense in the real world! A knowledgeable individual by necessity will be driven to allude to some truths acknowledged by consensus reality. Not everything can be a counter-truth. Even an evil Einstein would have difficulty maintaining that kind of an extant set of circumstances. Seriously, call me a zombie but somethings have to line up with what we see on a daily basis.
    He articulates things I've been studying for ten years.

    He makes perfect sense to me.

    I also greatly admire his effort to bring about election reform. In reality, until we do have real election reform, nothing is going to change.

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    ok, that means I have to listen to him...

    NAP

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    The questions are a lot simpler than all the youtube analysis makes it out. It's really simple:

    To butcher a condi rice quote: no one would EVER suspect enough rounds and 8x as many guns as would be necessary could ever get in a room on the 34th floor of Mandalay Bay to kill 58 and injure 10x that

    So of course, they aren't accountable, right? Does anyone have a link with evidence that the friggin Las Vegas strip casino is getting any heat for their security failure? How insulting to our intelligence it that the answer is more machines and security?

    They will bust a motherf*cker counting cards or slipping chips off someone stack, they watch EVERY f*cking move anyone makes...yet this guy stockpiled an arsenal, which somehow took 15 minutes or so for anyone to get to to stop? And supposedly a high roller? They'd be watching him harder than most.

    It's insane to me that anyone who's been in a vegas casino can believe it happened the way they are saying it did. And insane that anyone would believe anything a sh!tty "media" that hasn't demanded some of the millions of views of various aspects of this stuff from the literal TONS of cameras that captured bits and pieces.

    I thought after 911 no one could ever be as be brazen, and there were hardly any cameras then. I can't believe just because it guns and not planes that so many are talking about JFK (where almost NO one had a camera) rather than 911, where we learned that actual video footage of an event is a threat to national security.

    It's f*cking sick what we choose to pick and choose to believe or care about. Terrorism is an amazing tool, someone has it down to a science. And they have us dancing around "information nuggets" that FEEL like "evidence", while there's so many EASY questions that if they were posed would go so much further than the physics of gun fire (or buildings falling)...which most people won't even believe if they don't FEEL like it
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    Quote Originally Posted by donk View Post
    Terrorism is an amazing tool, someone has it down to a science.
    Amen to that, Brother. And we also know who that "someone" is, don't we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by donk View Post
    The questions are a lot simpler than all the youtube analysis makes it out. It's really simple:

    To butcher a condi rice quote: no one would EVER suspect enough rounds and 8x as many guns as would be necessary could ever get in a room on the 34th floor of Mandalay Bay to kill 58 and injure 10x that

    So of course, they aren't accountable, right? Does anyone have a link with evidence that the friggin Las Vegas strip casino is getting any heat for their security failure? How insulting to our intelligence it that the answer is more machines and security?

    They will bust a motherf*cker counting cards or slipping chips off someone stack, they watch EVERY f*cking move anyone makes...yet this guy stockpiled an arsenal, which somehow took 15 minutes or so for anyone to get to to stop? And supposedly a high roller? They'd be watching him harder than most.

    It's insane to me that anyone who's been in a vegas casino can believe it happened the way they are saying it did. And insane that anyone would believe anything a sh!tty "media" that hasn't demanded some of the millions of views of various aspects of this stuff from the literal TONS of cameras that captured bits and pieces.

    I thought after 911 no one could ever be as be brazen, and there were hardly any cameras then. I can't believe just because it guns and not planes that so many are talking about JFK (where almost NO one had a camera) rather than 911, where we learned that actual video footage of an event is a threat to national security.

    It's f*cking sick what we choose to pick and choose to believe or care about. Terrorism is an amazing tool, someone has it down to a science. And they have us dancing around "information nuggets" that FEEL like "evidence", while there's so many EASY questions that if they were posed would go so much further than the physics of gun fire (or buildings falling)...which most people won't even believe if they don't FEEL like it
    Most of the newer hotels have detection devices (metal dectectors, etc) built into door framing, cameras are everywhere as well as sonic detection. I'm fairly sure Mandalay has such as part of the MGM group. Nothing makes sense in this attack.
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    Not sure how reliable the alternative news network is but Las Vegas Shooting Witness Who Identified Multiple Shooters, Found Dead

    http://www.alternativenewsnetwork.ne...rs-found-dead/
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    Quote Originally Posted by The One View Post
    Not sure how reliable the alternative news network is . . .
    I see the original source has a by-line of Jay Greenberg:


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