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    Creationary Views.

    All points of views are very welcome from extreme religious views and beliefs to extreme esoteric and spiritual points of view and also just your feelings and personal views.

    Where are we from our non physical self, why are we here ?

    Are we a creation from a god or a source field or have we created our self's ?

    Have we as spirit evolved from mineral to vegetable then animal and now human ?

    Points of view from a physical perspective if you believe in non spiritual views and from a esoteric stand point.

    Has the universe been created for us by a almighty creator being or have we and other races and planets and solar systems and galaxy's created what is now a collective participation universe simply by entering with our own free will expression ?

    If in any religious or spiritual or new age expressions of there being a singular entity that has created us and the universe what are your feelings and points of view towards this ?

    Let's take it to the extreme and personal honest opinion and if needed agree to disagree.

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    Just to get things started:

    it all works for me...

    However, there are some oddities that exist in the Darwinian explanation.

    DNA has the capability to 'evolve' anything. There is no universal law that dictates that the warehouse of man is limited by what came before. Even given that what exists ostensibly is limited by the building blocks provided by its precursors. For example, one would not expect to be able to build a 767 from the parts of a bicycle, perhaps a mutated bicycle but not a 767. DNA is fully capable of arranging existing building blocks to create that 767 whether or not a bicycle has ever existed, or for that matter a 747. In my opinion cosmic mandate doesn't by necessity support nor explain the notion of natural selection.

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    Maybe as a soul expands it's consciousness it requires a physical unit more capable at a molecular level for its nervous system to be able to handle the power of that expanded soul potential. And naturally a physical species evolves in physical expression due to environmental conditions in physical vision but the the nervous system still has to be able to contain and reflect the souls evolution of Intergration.

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    It's a BIG simulation...tttthat's all folks....

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    Yes DNA can evolve and be created from a sealed vacuum state where nothing else exists. In experiments this has been proven but for the DNA to be created it takes conscious observation from a what would seem a soul or energy of a particular energy frequency. This could be one of the answers to life here in this universe and the universe's creation it's self.

    Maybe a void free of polarity then an observation or observations of a particular energy potential that creates the conditions and accelerates a physical DNA creation that is the universe. But at this stage a theatre ready for the same process to continue but with other participants doing do same as the original using observation and participation to activate DNA to create more of what we know of the physical universe.

    Maybe ?
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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    It's a BIG simulation...tttthat's all folks....
    You could be right. Even a simulation takes design and if this was the case the simulation represents that in mind of it's creator and we find our self's back at the original creation concept.

    Simulation could very well be a physical representation of a higher vibratory imagination or imaginations creating like I have posted previously.

    Even if we were to call it holographic this still implies that the hologram we are perceiving and experiencing is still just a fractual creation from a source that has had it's conscious observation and participation in it's original thought design.

    This post is for you some how Vern.

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    People like to imagine all number of things.
    There is a desire to put answers to formless evasive questions in their minds-eye.
    The need to place each thing in its place, to order it all into their understanding, maybe whittle off corners to do so.
    Make claims on how they are feeling and how the tingle means they are in tune with their perception of what they wish to be.
    The realms of the universe.
    Places where corn wont grow, places where corn does grow.
    Places where corn could pop if it could exist there.
    Distractions and distortions to blur the edges of the illusions. Some willingly subscribed to, some obliviously followed. Forces.. of habit.
    The fish placed in the fish bowl, swimming around, speculating on what those blurry magnified shapes are outside of the bowl.. trying to relate its answer to what it knows of life from being stuck inside the bowl.
    Biology matching with mammals, matching loosely with insects and fish and birds and reptiles too. Apart from humans not being glued to the conveyor belt of behaviour.
    We are not stuck in a life of tweeting and flying and nesting. Our behaviour seems to not be locked into predefined tasks like other animals.
    Some might say we are not equipped to live on earth as well as other animals, the ugly ducklings who seem to need their own form of nature to survive, a fabricated and assisted nature. Clothing, shelter, food cooked etc. This might make us more adaptable. But not out of choice. It forces us to be on the run, on our toes. It has shown us our barbarism in the past, and we set about making that barbarism less noticeable. I personally think we are as 'barbaric' as ever, even more, but we do it without blood getting on our hands and without remorse or even realising it for some.

    A paraphrased consideration of novelty?
    "In the beginning there was creative potential, a huge central field of thought, a superconsciousness of which everything that can and will be was thought of, filling the space to the point of critical mass. A mass of potentials in thought, not yet material. Then came the point in which the bubble burst and showered out across the void of space, with the intent of actualisation".

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    Quote Originally posted by V 14 View Post
    Yes DNA can evolve and be created from a sealed vacuum state where nothing else exists. In experiments this has been proven but for the DNA to be created it takes conscious observation from a what would seem a soul or energy of a particular energy frequency. This could be one of the answers to life here in this universe and the universe's creation it's self.

    Maybe a void free of polarity then an observation or observations of a particular energy potential that creates the conditions and accelerates a physical DNA creation that is the universe. But at this stage a theatre ready for the same process to continue but with other participants doing do same as the original using observation and participation to activate DNA to create more of what we know of the physical universe.

    Maybe ?
    well, that's something because we have now edged into established quantum theory. (An observer is required to make anything real)

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