What Motivates Bill Ryan of Project Avalon Community Forum?

**Lord Sidious** · 22nd October 2020, 06:03

Dunno about you nugg, but I never trusted Paul or Ilie.
From my experience with them behind the scenes, they were as legit as a flat tyre............

**Aragorn** · 22nd October 2020, 06:36

Originally posted by Lord Sidious

Dunno about you nugg, but I never trusted Paul or Ilie.
From my experience with them behind the scenes, they were as legit as a flat tyre............

Well, all I can say is that I've been up and down that list of plugins in the Project Avalon Admin Control Panel, and they don't have any such plugin installed.

**Malisa** · 22nd October 2020, 06:45

Originally posted by Aragorn

Well, all I can say is that I've been up and down that list of plugins in the Project Avalon Admin Control Panel, and they don't have any such plugin installed.

I would never believe Avalon has such a thing, because as far and as i have experienced, there's integrity there, and if someone people dislike the idea and refuse to accept it due to personal bias, well it is what it is

**Lord Sidious** · 22nd October 2020, 07:21

Originally posted by Aragorn

Well, all I can say is that I've been up and down that list of plugins in the Project Avalon Admin Control Panel, and they don't have any such plugin installed.

I didn't mean about that specifically.
I know it was there after Richard, Paul used it, but when it was removed, I don't know...........

**Aragorn** · 22nd October 2020, 12:47

I have blocked Malisa from this thread, as per her own request. In the process, I've also cleaned up this page of the thread. Now let's keep it civil, shall we?

**Lord Sidious** · 22nd October 2020, 13:12

Originally posted by Aragorn

I have blocked Malisa from this thread, as per her own request. In the process, I've also cleaned up this page of the thread. Now let's keep it civil, shall we?

Probably a good thing.
For someone done replying to comments on the thread, she kept coming back.
Sort of like a narcissistic boomerang.............

**Aragorn** · 22nd October 2020, 13:15

Originally posted by Lord Sidious

Originally posted by Aragorn

I have blocked Malisa from this thread, as per her own request. In the process, I've also cleaned up this page of the thread. Now let's keep it civil, shall we?

Probably a good thing.
For someone done replying to comments on the thread, she kept coming back.
Sort of like a narcissistic boomerang.............

More like OCD, but let's not talk behind her back.

**Lord Sidious** · 22nd October 2020, 13:19

Originally posted by Aragorn

More like OCD, but let's not talk behind her back.

She can't even view this thread?

**Aragorn** · 22nd October 2020, 13:28

Originally posted by Lord Sidious

She can't even view this thread?

No, she can't. She'll receive a notification that she has been ─ and I quote ─ "removed from the discussion". She requested it herself, as well as to not receive any more notifications regarding this thread.

I've given her the instructions on how to unsubscribe from the thread, and I do agree that it was the best solution for avoiding further conflict on this thread.

**Exit 0** · 22nd October 2020, 13:55

Aragorn, I have no desire to drag this out any further than it has gotten. In my first commennt (#719), I inadvertantly stepped-into an unrelated debate. All my later comments, were answers to questions the other members asked of me.

Originally posted by Aragorn

It wasn't Christine ─ whom I hold in high regard ─ who explained the mechanism. Christine wrote that Project Avalon's moderators can read private messages because that is what she believes, based upon her misunderstanding of things. The person explaining on that thread "how it's done" is Earth Empaths member Pluto's Child, who happens to be one and the same person as former The One Truth administrator Spiral.

Actually, the OP message in that "Private messages...." Thread at EE, was a copy-and-past of an entry at the EE website, written by cristian. Pluto's Child (Spiral) made comments in the Thread, but my understanding is, that cristian wrote the OP message that Christine used.

Originally posted by Aragorn

That's a pretty serious allegation, and if true, then none of the Project Avalon staff members know about it.

I'm only reporting it, how it was told to me, and from memory back-to late May or early June. I tried to find the message where it was reported, but was unsuccessful in getting that far back in a FaceBook PM format.

I have reported my Project Avalon experience accurately. When I was banned, Bill Ryan himself, advised me that he had read my private messages, and "could see that I had attempted to moderate (name withheld)"

Additionally, I'm aware of much more regarding the harvesting of private messages at Project Avalon, but to discuss these alligations would be breaking a private trust.

Like you, Aragorn, I too am a man of integrity.

**Lord Sidious** · 22nd October 2020, 13:59

Originally posted by Aragorn

I've given her the instructions on how to unsubscribe from the thread, and I do agree that it was the best solution for avoiding further conflict on this thread.

Displaying some manners and respect to others is a far superior method, but when that's not possible, beating the retreat is acceptable.......

**Dreamtimer** · 22nd October 2020, 14:02

If those messages were reported, then they could be read. Do you know if that is what happened?

**Exit 0** · 22nd October 2020, 14:16

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

If those messages were reported, then they could be read. Do you know if that is what happened?

Dreamtimer,
If you are refering to the messages that I am talking about, the only ppl who could have possibly "reported" them would have to be a PA mod, or admin.

All of the messages in question, were exclusively between (name withheld) and my self. I know the other party didn't "report" them.

**donk** · 24th October 2020, 05:21

Originally posted by Malisa

Again, your perception of things based on your own beliefs, are not "official"

Can you possibly show me the documents where Bill Ryan has documented his "Church" and let me remind you that posts on the internet, that affect someone else's ego, are not "official" in anyway, specially, again, when the purpose/meaning/effect is determined by every person's perspective

And second, the post i replied to, was about Scientology, not the stupidity about US politics, why did you change to this issue?

I never mentioned, or care about the idiot US politics, so it seems odd you changed to that narrative so suddenly

But yet, "The Church of Scientology" and the "Free Zone" are not the same, at all, separation of identity comes to mind

Do you think all Asians are Chinese, or all Chinese are Asian? Are there possibly some Russian that are also Asians? What about the Cossacks, are they Asian? Or Russian, or Azerbaijanis?

Maybe because Azerbaijani people have beliefs in Islam it means they are also Turkish, or Iranians?

I could show you “docs”.

Wanna see the DM he sent me HERE to tell me how irresponsible I was to expose the unlightened to the OT3?

I’m a bit behind and maybe ya got straightened out, but the Project is looking a bit white supremisist to me, and I think you’ll end up a bit disappointed putting faith in old bill

**araucaria** · 24th October 2020, 11:26

The endless controversy over private messages may have a simple explanation. PMs per se are off limits, yes, but member-to-member exchanges (Visitor messages) gathered up into conversations on a member’s personal page are readable by all members and no non-members. Some people (perhaps not all) may well be talking at cross-purposes.